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Posted 04 Apr 2006 - 10:40

I'l remember that post next season foz when your slagging our defenders, you know as well as i do we aint got the money to replace him so realy you think we should get rid?

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With 1 year left yes i do..he's stalling so get rid,its fairly simple tbh,we dont have the cash to waste letting a player go for nothing..we dont have the cash to let him go for nowt.

And i dont think ferrarri will stay either.
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Posted 04 Apr 2006 - 14:40

Yobo isnt that good.

if he doesnt want to stay, thats no problem, lets replace him in the summer.

he was rooneys striking partner in the manu game. that was unbelievable.

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Posted 04 Apr 2006 - 16:36

Yobo might not be a maldini but hes young. Once he goes we're left with stubbs & weir........Again!!!!!
The future looks bleak IMO

But i if he doesnt want to stay what can u do :(

Edited by Sickboy, 04 Apr 2006 - 16:37.

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Posted 04 Apr 2006 - 19:47

Yobo isnt that good.

he was rooneys striking partner in the manu game. that was unbelievable.

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jeez, everyone keeps going on about 1 fckin stupid mistake ---- if EFC can't see the quality (and even greater potential) of this guy, we REALLY don't deserve him ---- let him go and you'll all cry and b*tch when he's a superstar elsewhere..........fcking ridiculous, the fans of a club like EFC (who have almost no pulling power at the moment) saying he isn't that good and we can easily replace ---------- unbelievabe.....

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Posted 04 Apr 2006 - 19:52

It's not one mistake, he is a liability. He thinks he is a midfielder without the ability, but he is a defender WITHOUT THE ABILITY. Sell him and move on, but for no less than 7.5m.

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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 01:12

Umbrella's up & am of the opinion Joey is one of the potentialy better defenders in the leauge & would be gutted to loose.

Theyre seems a glut of overated/overpriced centre halves about & ide rather Joey than Rio 2 be honest & would restore Unsy before going near that overated Boumsong character..he cost an arm & a leg .

Would be gutted to see JY leave. However Matt Upson as mentioned would be a fine addition if @ all poss.
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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 01:17

Afterthought: This ones for you ZEd,( and anyone int)

can you see the wicked plot unravelling yet?


Lets play fill in the word ...Yobo is on his way out & _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ is coming in.
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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 07:59

Reports today saying he just wants to play football and will sort out future in the summer.
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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 08:06

To Tara Mac how can you say Yobo has not got got the ability as midfielder or a defender and then ask 7.5 million for him? I agree with you Raccy Boy at times our supporters do my fuckin head in! We bitch and moan all the time because some of us still think were in the mid 80's and deserve something that we shouldn't. God help us if we would have gone down a few season's ago because fuck me what would some of you been like then? Why do people still go on about the Man Utd game? Ok it was a bad mistake but who doesn't make them? Up to the African Nations Joey was our top man and it seems every time he has an injury he can't get back in the team for ages and it must infuriate him. I've said it before Joey is class and if he does go watch him go on to make a great career for himself and i bet half of you turn round then and say how you all knew he would turn out so good. I bet you all bitched about Materrazzi.

Ok i know it's a forum for opinions but fuck me!
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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 08:11

To Tara Mac how can you say Yobo has not got got the ability as midfielder or a defender and then ask 7.5 million for him? I agree with you Raccy Boy at times our supporters do my fuckin head in! We bitch and moan all the time because some of us still think were in the mid 80's and deserve something that we shouldn't. God help us if we would have gone down a few season's ago because fuck me what would some of you been like then? Why do people still go on about the Man Utd game? Ok it was a bad mistake but who doesn't make them? Up to the African Nations Joey was our top man and it seems every time he has an injury he can't get back in the team for ages and it must infuriate him. I've said it before Joey is class and if he does go watch him go on to make a great career for himself and i bet half of you turn round then and say how you all knew he would turn out so good. I bet you all bitched about Materrazzi.

Ok i know it's a forum for opinions but fuck me!

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Yobo is average nothing more...Marco on the other hand was class,anyone could see it,but he was too young for us when he moved to us.

I agree he played well the first season he came to us,but has done nothing since to make everyone rate him so much..as i've said before he's a defensive version of Graveson,all huff and bluster and nothing else.

Just the way i see it.
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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 08:20

I cant see who we would replace him with even if we had millions to spend (which we dont) and expecting any more than 3 mil for a player who can leave on a free next summer is a joke.

Would you pay 8 mil for a defender when you can get him to sign a pre contract agreement with 2 mil sign on and wait a year? Jose, Alex & Arse are smarter than that!

If the kid goes it will be at a loss and we will regret it we should be keeping him, trying to sign upson & Farrari and letting Wier & Stubbs go. That would show ambition from the club and create real compotition at the back.
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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 08:22

Upson would be a good signing we should have gone after when he left the arse tbh,

But if he wont sign a contrct he has to be sold simple as that,econic facts cold hard cash,filthy lucre moolah...it makes the world spin.

And yobo wants he slice of it by the looks of it.

Edited by fozzie22, 05 Apr 2006 - 08:23.

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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 08:37

I agree that doesnt mean we will be able to replace him tho so expect a large hole at the back next year filled with Wier's zimmer frame!
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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 08:38

To try & understand the logic ( money will be a part factor) of a foreign player consider this.

Put your selves in these shoes You are playing in Italy for lets say Empoli. Your contract is winding down & You no Juventus want you.

Do you sign for Juventus or re sign for Empoli?

Looking form outside of the blue square it's Simple really.

Let's be honest & admit we are all a tad blinkered as we would play for nothing & most would die for this clubs shirt.
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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 08:48

I agree pat why would he want to resign for us if the Arse are truly after him.

DM has come out and said that no-one has asked about him and think it might have been a bad thing saying that as Yobo could decide that DM is trying to force his hand.

I would like Yobo to sign a new deal and stay as I have said before won't be able to replace him with the money we will get from his sale.

However if he does not want to stay and is going to leave for nothing next year then the right thing to do is sell him now and get some money out of him.
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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 08:49

The only way you keep these types of players is by building a decent squad and making them feel they are a major cog in an up and comming team, the lure of silverware & money is great but the majority of players will stay if they feel they are important and the team is going places!

This is our problem at the moment Joey is bored, some of you think he is not that good a player and you are all entitled to your opinions but picture this. Joey is sold to Arse for 3 mil, we are unstable at the back next season and make little progress from this season and this time next year we will be having the same conversation about Arteta and Cahill then what will we be left with?
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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 09:33

I must agree with Raccyboy with regard to the value of Yobo to this club. Yobo has proved since his arrival that he is one of the top centre backs in the EPL. Given his age and the fact that he has managed to look so impressive playing alongside Weir makes one appreciate his value even more. From reading the posts on this issue it does make we wonder if we have all been watching the same palyer!!!
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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 09:47

That is a valid point Goldfish, but not easily acheived.

To build a decent squad and retain your decent player you have to pay them big buck.

Its a catch 22 -you do resonabley well and some of your better player shine - by default attention is draw to them and richer clubs try and sign them. Heads are turned and well we know how the rest of the story goes.
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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 11:33

I think we all have to be realistic now and agree that the days of Matt Le Tissier staying at one club are long gone. Maybe Shearer staying at Newcastle is the last you will see as i can't see Torres staying at Betis either. As soon as a player makes the grade the bigger and richer clubs come sniffing and the players go rightly or wrongly. I think Spurs are doing the right thing by buying young players and keep re-negotiating longer contracts to keep them happy. Unfortunately the cream of the other clubs outside the GIANTS with the money are never gonna stay Rooney, Wright-Phillips, Wallcott to name but a few.
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I think we all have to be realistic now and agree that the days of Matt Le Tissier staying at one club are long gone. Maybe Shearer staying at Newcastle is the last you will see as i can't see Torres staying at Betis either. As soon as a player makes the grade the bigger and richer clubs come sniffing and the players go rightly or wrongly. I think Spurs are doing the right thing by buying young players and keep re-negotiating longer contracts to keep them happy. Unfortunately the cream of the other clubs outside the GIANTS with the money are never gonna stay Rooney, Wright-Phillips, Wallcott to name but a few.

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Good post

Modern footballers are greedy bastards really
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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 12:59

Good post

Modern footballers are greedy bastards really

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How are they any different to you or I?

If another company down the road head hunted you and offered you more money, bigger office, company car etc etc - wouldn't you at least consider it..and probably, 99 times out of 100, you'd swap companies..woudln't you?!?!?!

People are only loyal to Families and Money - and that may be a bitter pill to swallow but its the truth.

The days of working for a company all your life because they looked after you have long gone - the fact is no employer wants to look after its employees unless there is something in it for them.
BK will always be more than willing to look after players because he is ALWAYS more than willing to sell them. No player stays at a club unless it pays well and is successful (Gary Neville, Man U) or he is forced out (R. Fowler, RS).
If man U were shite and had not much money - would Beckham and Co have stayed for so long?!

I Seriously doubt it.

If the company you work for now told you that you would never get a pay rise and it was never going to grow or look for a better future, wouldn't you leave?

I've gone round the houses a bit, but my point is basically this - footballers are branded as greedy when in fact their morales are no different to ours. The only difference is that they are in the public eye.

and remember - they may get 30k a week - but for how long do they get that money?

take cahill for example.
33k a week now - but he is 26. He was 5 years left, of which 3yrs he will be on similar money - but before now and after another 3 yrs, his money will drop and drop.
At 30-33 he will retire and have to live the other 40-50 yrs of his life hoping that his football pension and savings do alright. (no doubt that they will but....)

the saying 'make hey whilst the sun shines' is true in all walks of life and everyone takes advantage whilst they can - footballers are no different.
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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 13:00

Good post

Modern footballers are greedy bastards really

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I dont agree, if you were offered a position doing the same job you do now but for a company who won bigger contracts, worked with international clients and could offer you double your salery for doing basicaly the same job would you go?

I would!

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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 13:07

I dont agree, if you were offered a position doing the same job you do now but for a company who won bigger contracts, worked with international clients and could offer you double your salery for doing basicaly the same job would you go?

I would!

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Totally agree- see my post!
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Posted 05 Apr 2006 - 15:18

I think your both 99% on the sentiment but were talking about 20,000 to anything up to 90,000 a week. It's a hell of a lot of money that you can live comfortably off for the rest of your life at the bottom end of the scale. God don't get me started i nearly brought up that twat who left us.

By the way is it me or is it like everybody in the media/world has forgotten he used to actually play for us. It seems like the Mancs get the plaudits for develloping him? :angry:
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Posted 06 Apr 2006 - 10:21

I think your both 99% on the sentiment but were talking about 20,000 to anything up to 90,000 a week. It's a hell of a lot of money that you can live comfortably off for the rest of your life at the bottom end of the scale. God don't get me started i nearly brought up that twat who left us.

By the way is it me or is it like everybody in the media/world has forgotten he used to actually play for us. It seems like the Mancs get the plaudits for develloping him?  :angry:

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Forget Shrek - its over.....

In terms of the money - yes its enough to tie them over for the rest of their days - of course it is - but you have to remember that they indulge whilst the money is coming in.

For example - if you earn 20,000 a year now, you probably have a little house and the rest is in a savings account or pissed up the wall. Say in 10 yrs time your working life ends.

Can you still live in your little house, with a little fiesta etc.etc. The answer is no, its nigh on impossible to keep the quality of life you are used to and its extremely difficult to change your lifestyle. thats why we keep on working.

Footballers - they earn 30k a week - its a lot of money - but...they live to the 30k a week lifestyle. So what happens when it stops - they cant live to that life style anymore and they struggle (hard to believe I know).

Look at Mark Ward - he was on 1,300 a week in 1992 - that was A LOT of money back then and he lived the life style!!! but then when he hung up his boots he had nothing and that is the same for many a footballer. So you can not blame them for stock piling as much as they can now...

Irrelevant of the amount of money, the morales and motivations of footballers are no different to those of normal people, working 'harder' for a living.
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Posted 06 Apr 2006 - 10:27

Agree with everything you said Rowlo

However if anyone wants to pay me 30k per week for the next 30 years will try to prove Rowlo and myself wrong :D
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Posted 06 Apr 2006 - 11:40

Donty forget we are talking in millions for one season, you put a million pounds in the bank and you will never have to work again.
Thats just for one season imagine a million pounds going into the bank every year for 10 years. :blink:
You can live any lifestyle you like, and you could'nt spend it.

Even our players on 30 grand a week are close to 2million a year.

THE OLD DAYS ARE LONG GONE.

1ST Div............................80 POUNDS PER WEEK.
2ND Div...........................60............................
3RD DIV..Nth & Sth...........40............................

and in the summer (close season) they got paid a reduced rate.

Football has slowly deteriated since they abolished the maximum wage, and will never be the same again now that the TV companys run the Show.
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Posted 06 Apr 2006 - 11:44

How are they any different to you or I?

If another company down the road head hunted you and offered you more money, bigger office, company car etc etc - wouldn't you at least consider it..and probably, 99 times out of 100, you'd swap companies..woudln't you?!?!?!

People are only loyal to Families and Money - and that may be a bitter pill to swallow but its the truth.

The days of working for a company all your life because they looked after you have long gone - the fact is no employer wants to look after its employees unless there is something in it for them.
BK will always be more than willing to look after players because he is ALWAYS more than willing to sell them. No player stays at a club unless it pays well and is successful (Gary Neville, Man U) or he is forced out (R. Fowler, RS).
If man U were shite and had not much money - would Beckham and Co have stayed for so long?!

I Seriously doubt it.

If the company you work for now told you that you would never get a pay rise and it was never going to grow or look for a better future, wouldn't you leave?

I've gone round the houses a bit, but my point is basically this - footballers are branded as greedy when in fact their morales are no different to ours. The only difference is that they are in the public eye.

and remember - they may get 30k a week - but for how long do they get that money?

take cahill for example.
33k a week now - but he is 26. He was 5 years left, of which 3yrs he will be on similar money - but before now and after another 3 yrs, his money will drop and drop.
At 30-33 he will retire and have to live the other 40-50 yrs of his life hoping that his football pension and savings do alright. (no doubt that they will but....)

the saying 'make hey whilst the sun shines' is true in all walks of life and everyone takes advantage whilst they can - footballers are no different.

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Sorry bud,but it doesnt wash..the old argument of "well they only do it for x number of years" is crap really.

The money players are on now is a scandal,and if you support it well thats you're view,IMO its the wrong view but hey thats why the world is in such a state greedy bastrds who want to rake money in for themselves andd think of no other.

If all of us who post here regularly pooled a years cash and put it in a pot,it would'nt cover someone like shrek,beckham et al monthly wages,now if you feel thats fair well good for you,i dont..people are starving in the world and dying from common illness's but still so long as some underducated fuckwit from the back streets of toxteth or wherever gets his massive wage to send his daft slag of a girlfriend shopping then all is well.

No its not,football is a pastime,it wont cure cancer,the common cold,AIDS,or other illness that need cash for research,no leemings wander off to see thier "heroes2 on a saturday afternoon,running around doing fuck all but kick a ball about and getting paid a kings ranson(in the PL at least)..but because they retire at 33-34 it makes them special cases??

Does it fuck.
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Posted 06 Apr 2006 - 11:47

And i'll say it again footballers are greedy bastrds "because" they are in the publics eyes

The last time i checked i didnt have an agent,you know to go to asda and do my "contract" talks over my shopping.

Parasites the fucking lot of them.
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Posted 06 Apr 2006 - 12:21

Agree with Fozzie on this one they have a certain life span yes to the age 33-34 but if I had the money they had I would happily retire to my golf course. Because of their fame they could easy get work elsewhere Skysports, Radio shows, Celebrity appearances etc.

If they have half a brain they would invest the money wisely look at Robbie Fowler one of the richest footballers down to properties he has purchased over the years.

As Rowlo said its not just footballs who are gready we all are its just that they are in the spot light.
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Posted 07 Apr 2006 - 18:31

Reports today that Yobo is happy to stay.

Well depending on how you read what he has come out and said.

Its on main Everton website.

Says talks are on going and if they sort something out he is very happy to stay.
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Posted 07 Apr 2006 - 20:08

Yeah on the Echo aswell:

http://icliverpool.i...-name_page.html
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Posted 08 Apr 2006 - 00:56

Reports today that Yobo is happy to stay.

Well depending on how you read what he has come out and said.

Its on main Everton website.

Says talks are on going and if they sort something out he is very happy to stay.

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Time will tell i suppose..i do seem to recall jug ears saying he was happy to stay then he fucked off to the arse..so i take press reports and website reports for that matter with a large pinch of salt,untill a deal is done.
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Posted 11 Apr 2006 - 09:45

I agree Fozzie.

Just before the weekend he was meant to have been saying he was happy to stay and then I read the paper on Sunday and it says from a source close to him that he is not happy with the offer and its our fault that he has not signed as we not improving the offer.
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Posted 11 Apr 2006 - 10:36

nah he wont go
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