Jump to content


Photo

Waterfront Stadium?


  • Please log in to reply
29 replies to this topic

#1 Romey 1878

Romey 1878

    Mildo

  • Cyber Steward
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 44,210 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 13:26

http://www.nsno.co.uk/news-4017.html
  • 0

#2 MikeO

MikeO

    Scars are tattoos with better stories.

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 39,478 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 13:38

http://www.nsno.co.uk/news-4017.html


Someone's paid more than a few quid to have those drawn up, looks great but no point in getting excited until whoever it was starts talking €£$....and where it's going to come from.
  • 0

#3 Romey 1878

Romey 1878

    Mildo

  • Cyber Steward
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 44,210 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 13:48

It would be extremely good if it could happen though wouldn't it?
  • 0

#4 Bill

Bill

    Alex. Top player

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,505 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 13:56

Arent they the old plans for the waterfront stadium that failed to materialise, now the Echo Arena. ???? :huh:
  • 0

#5 Romey 1878

Romey 1878

    Mildo

  • Cyber Steward
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 44,210 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 14:11

It says Clarence Dock, not King's Dock.

Edited by Romey 1878, 08 Dec 2008 - 14:12.

  • 0

#6 MikeO

MikeO

    Scars are tattoos with better stories.

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 39,478 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 14:29

It would be extremely good if it could happen though wouldn't it?


It would be brilliant.....too good to be true (and most likely it is :) ).
  • 0

#7 Bill

Bill

    Alex. Top player

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,505 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 14:34

It says Clarence Dock, not King's Dock.



Yeah Mark but i'm sure they look like the original drawings for the kings dock project, might be wrong tho. ;)
  • 0

#8 adz09

adz09

    Dixie Dean.

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,034 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 15:05

I'm with Bill, They look very similar to the Kings Dock stadium.
  • 0

#9 MikeO

MikeO

    Scars are tattoos with better stories.

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 39,478 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 15:30

Yeah Mark but i'm sure they look like the original drawings for the kings dock project, might be wrong tho. ;)


If they are then someone's gone to a lot of trouble to re-draw them to fit between Collingwood and Trafalgar Docks :huh: .

I don't have the local geographical knowledge of most of you but that deffo ain't the Kings Dock footprint.
  • 0

#10 Louis

Louis

    Dixie Dean

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,611 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 16:10

The stadiums look very different, Kings Dock had a glass façade on the exterior. I think the only similar aspect is the capacity - 55,000.

The new train station proposal is interesting, it's something I'd like to see regardless.. if only for the Stanley Dock market ;)

I'm not keen on the Stanley Dock warehouse becoming a sports club, I always felt it should become a hotel or apartments once cleared up.

Posted Image
  • 0

#11 Patto

Patto

    Time Will Tell

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,046 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 16:37

the problem with the stanly dock warehouse is its a white elephant will never be used for anything...only 6foot headroom on all floors it would be to expensive to convert...plus for them that dont know its about a mile from kings dock the other side of the three graces as they are called going north towards bootle.three graces ie liver buildings.
  • 0

#12 DangerMouse

DangerMouse

    Trevor Steven

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,091 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 16:40

hmmm................ good timing
  • 0

#13 MikeO

MikeO

    Scars are tattoos with better stories.

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 39,478 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 16:54

The stadiums look very different, Kings Dock had a glass façade on the exterior.

And a lot of fireworks...

Posted Image
  • 0

#14 Louis

Louis

    Dixie Dean

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,611 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 17:01

Don't be bringing the Kenwright and Gregg fall-out up Mike ;)
  • 0

#15 Bill

Bill

    Alex. Top player

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,505 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 17:48

If you take away the glossy coat of the hyped up kings dock stadium the basic drawings are of a similar stadium, and Mike you can place those drawings anywhere, even on an industrial estate in Kirkby. :)
  • 0

#16 StevO

StevO

    Blagging on the basis of knowledge

  • Cyber Steward
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 14,032 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 18:12

wow, didnt expect this to happen. any details of backers/investors being touted about? this would just be too perfect imo
  • 0

#17 MikeO

MikeO

    Scars are tattoos with better stories.

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 39,478 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 18:45

...and Mike you can place those drawings anywhere, even on an industrial estate in Kirkby. :)


But the docks are an integral part of the drawing Bill....if it was purely a stadium plan you'd have a point, but you can't put Trafalgar Dock in Kirkby....someone might notice :) .

Or are you suggesting that an architect has made up a drawing of the docks and dropped the old stadium design into it? What would be the point in that?
  • 0

#18 Everton_Worshiper

Everton_Worshiper

    David Moyes

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,337 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 18:50

I must be the only one not impressed with the "drawings", they are not very good. Is it the fact our stadium is being depicted on the docks you like or the stadium design, which is just an oval stadium plonked on the docks?

Also, the cynical part of me thinks the timing of the "release" is too coincidental.
  • 0

#19 Louis

Louis

    Dixie Dean

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,611 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 19:10

I think the location is excellent (unless global warming will see it flooded!), the design is a bit iffy and looks like a blue St. Marys.

What's the relevance of the "time of the release"?
  • 0

#20 Bill

Bill

    Alex. Top player

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,505 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 19:30

But the docks are an integral part of the drawing Bill....if it was purely a stadium plan you'd have a point, but you can't put Trafalgar Dock in Kirkby....someone might notice :) .

Or are you suggesting that an architect has made up a drawing of the docks and dropped the old stadium design into it? What would be the point in that?


Now would i do that, ;) but if you dont know the docks they are all of a similar layout, you could put a plan of a stadium anywhere along the seven miles of docklands and they would all look the same.
  • 0

#21 Louis

Louis

    Dixie Dean

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,611 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 20:09

I think they are old plans because the new Canal isn't on the drawing

Posted Image
  • 0

#22 Everton_Worshiper

Everton_Worshiper

    David Moyes

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,337 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 20:49

I think the location is excellent (unless global warming will see it flooded!), the design is a bit iffy and looks like a blue St. Marys.

What's the relevance of the "time of the release"?


With a public inquiry ongoing to Everton FC's stadium why is this suddenly leaked to nsno.co.uk? To coin a phrase, "to put a cat amongst the pigeons".
  • 0

#23 Bill

Bill

    Alex. Top player

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,505 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 21:17

the problem with the stanly dock warehouse is its a white elephant will never be used for anything...only 6foot headroom on all floors it would be to expensive to convert...plus for them that dont know its about a mile from kings dock the other side of the three graces as they are called going north towards bootle.three graces ie liver buildings.



Multi storey Car Park. ???
  • 0

#24 DangerMouse

DangerMouse

    Trevor Steven

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,091 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 21:52

Why do you all seem to be getting so excited? Its another very basic drawing placed onto a basic map... Its more than likely just an old design dug up to throw in the wooden spoon a bit....

LCC by any chance? but then again why would they leak it to nsno? more likely a................... "fan"

Edited by DangerMouse, 08 Dec 2008 - 21:54.

  • 0

#25 MikeO

MikeO

    Scars are tattoos with better stories.

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 39,478 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 22:52

Its another very basic drawing placed onto a basic map...


I'd take issue with that. It's much more than "a very basic drawing" and the fact that it was done by brh (bradshaw rowse harker >>LINK<<) shows that it's a serious idea.

Don't think it can be dismissed quite so easily, someone (as I said earlier) has spent more than a little money on it.
  • 0

#26 duncanmckenzieismagic

duncanmckenzieismagic

    Howard Kendall

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,609 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 23:23

Yeah ok it looks decent and if all we had to do was draw a new stadium it would be ideal but the reality
is we couldnt afford it and it would have all the same obstacles thrown in the way as the Kings Dock so
I reckon its a non starter
  • 0

#27 Everton_Worshiper

Everton_Worshiper

    David Moyes

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,337 posts

Posted 08 Dec 2008 - 23:56

I'd take issue with that. It's much more than "a very basic drawing" and the fact that it was done by brh (bradshaw rowse harker >>LINK<<) shows that it's a serious idea.

Don't think it can be dismissed quite so easily, someone (as I said earlier) has spent more than a little money on it.


Oh dear, I am going to take issue with your issue.
The drawing is basic, I can do better than that and I am no architect. If that is the standard of their work then remind me not to use their services. If you handed that in to the council then they would likely laugh at you.

It doesn't (to me anyway) show it as a serious idea, more someone at BRH was bored one day and had a doodle.
  • 0

#28 barryj

barryj

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 927 posts

Posted 09 Dec 2008 - 00:33

Update : 8th December 2008, 10:00pm : These images, after much investigation, have been found to have been drawn up by the previous owners of the land, prior to Peel Holdings buyng the entire Liverpool Waterfront, as part of their potential plans for redeveloping the area a number of years ago. Judging by the fact that they included a stadium, they clearly felt that the site could cope with a 55,000 seater stadium.
  • 0

#29 DangerMouse

DangerMouse

    Trevor Steven

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,091 posts

Posted 09 Dec 2008 - 09:23

I'd take issue with that. It's much more than "a very basic drawing" and the fact that it was done by brh (bradshaw rowse harker >>LINK<<) shows that it's a serious idea.

Don't think it can be dismissed quite so easily, someone (as I said earlier) has spent more than a little money on it.


What we have all seen is a very basic CONCEPT DRAWING... thats it. Its like scribbling your ideas down on a piece of paper..... just tarted up a bit.....

Just compare it to the Kings Dock CONCEPT DRAWING

The fact that it seems like an old proposal anyway means its been ruled out at some point..... Was it even a stadium for Everton?????

I hope we are looking at alternatives but if you carnt see whats going on here...............Its already been posted a few times.... the timing is just a little to convenient
  • 0

#30 Guest_efctaxi_*

Guest_efctaxi_*
  • Guests

Posted 16 Dec 2008 - 10:48

It is a perfect location .
Next time we miss out on 4th spot , we can simply hurl ourselves straight into the mersey at full time instead of taking it to the bridge :P

Wouldn't it be great though ? If only ............
  • 0




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users