Jump to content


Photo

Lucas Neill


  • Please log in to reply
126 replies to this topic

#81 aaron

aaron

    Everton Aren't We

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,102 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 15:00

Seriously why is anyone complaining bout the possible signing of lucas. Hes going to be one of the best defenders in your team if he signs. Although he is a CENTRAL defender first and foremost. He is better then jags. Use should play a back line of
Heitinga jags neil baines
with distin (left back/centre back) Yobo (centre back/right back) and Hibbert (right back) as your back ups.

fail.

Im all for signing him based on numbers, i dont like him but he will do, and he is better than hibbert.
  • 0

#82 CaptainFerguson10

CaptainFerguson10

    Leon Osman

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 595 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 15:26

Stated by an un-named Guardian journalist as expectation. How you can make that become "Moyes plan" is beyond me.


Fact is where did Moyes play him last Sunday? When Hibbert could have been shipped off and Heitinga and Billy brought on, dear Moyes elected to play Heitinga at center mid and Billy still benched, which makes the article more believable than your assumption lad. Oh I forgot, Moyes love of playing players out of their natural position also gives it credence.

Edited by CaptainFerguson10, 17 Sep 2009 - 15:27.

  • 0

#83 Ian C

Ian C

    100% Guaranteed Irish

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,764 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 15:34

Fact is where did Moyes play him last Sunday? When Hibbert could have been shipped off and Heitinga and Billy brought on, dear Moyes elected to play Heitinga at center mid and Billy still benched, which makes the article more believable than your assumption lad. Oh I forgot, Moyes love of playing players out of their natural position also gives it credence.


GTFO with your nonsense, Moyes doesn't play players out of position because he loves to, he does it out of necessity. Moyes favours knowing what he's going to get over an unknown quantity, because you can't plan for an unknown quantity.

Grow up and stop with the Moyes bashing.
  • 0

#84 MikeO

MikeO

    Scars are tattoos with better stories.

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 39,478 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 15:40

Fact is where did Moyes play him last Sunday? When Hibbert could have been shipped off and Heitinga and Billy brought on, dear Moyes elected to play Heitinga at center mid and Billy still benched, which makes the article more believable than your assumption lad. Oh I forgot, Moyes love of playing players out of their natural position also gives it credence.

Lad :mellow: ?
  • 0

#85 BlueBoy1980

BlueBoy1980

    Joe Parkinson

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 62 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 15:47

From Daily MAil today


Everton will sign Australia defender Lucas Neill on a free transfer today and pay him half the wages he got at West Ham.

The 31-year-old is a free agent after failing to agree an extension of his 80,000-a-week Upton Park deal in the summer.
He has seen proposed moves to Sunderland and Athletico Madrid collapse because of personal terms.

Neill caused a storm in 2007 when he rejected Liverpool to sign for West Ham, insisting it was for footballing reasons and not the huge wages offered to him.

Everton hope his close friendship with fellow Aussie and former Millwall team-mate Tim Cahill will help seal the deal and expect to snap him up in time to face former club Blackburn on Sunday.

Neill is the second-youngest player at 18 years and seven months to play for Australia - behind Harry Kewell - and has represented the Socceroos 50 times. He has captained them three times.

Toffees' boss David Moyes, is desperate for defensive reinforcements as new 6.3m signing John Heitinga will be required in central midfield following the loss of skipper Phil Neville to a serious knee injury suffered at Fulham last weekend- he will be out for up to three months.
  • 0

#86 efc-murph

efc-murph

    Brian Labone

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 71 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 16:36

i always thought that lucas neill was a RB or am i wrong?
  • 0

#87 KinseyG

KinseyG

    Tim Howard

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 130 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 16:39

been a good player the times ive seen him play and he has the experience, more numbers in the squad the better
  • 0

#88 KinseyG

KinseyG

    Tim Howard

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 130 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 16:44

yeah he plays centre and right back, cover for right back i guess. only like him playing for the aussies.
greedy player as per


and he is nowere near better than jags. jags will slot straight back in to the team when hes fit
  • 0

#89 Blue 250

Blue 250

    Bob Latchford

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,473 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 16:55

Like a lot of people I'm not a big fan of Lucas Neil.....But come on he did turn down liverpool, so he's almost a Blues legend already!....Seriously though, he has been touted over the last few seasons as a very good player, bit long in the tooth, but a good old'un is way better than an average young'n!
He set's his stall out with the price he believes people should pay for his services, if he delivers, then I for one would be glad to have him around for a few seasons.
As for the Heitinga holding midfield thing!.....Against Fulham, not that impressive hey!
Well in that second half against Fulham, who WAS?...When Jags first came he played a few games in that role, and to a man we thought he was very poor....hell we even questioned his signing in general.My point being, he's turned out to be a great player, ok, mainly in the central defence, but early days most fans would have been happy for us to move him on.Heitinga has played one game, his first in the prem in a team who look anything but assured, on a day when his team mates didn't exactly offer him their services, it could still work out, if he (Heitinga) thinks he can do it, surely he must be given at least a chance, before we condem him to the scrap heap with.......Jagielka.

Someone....I think, has said that he didn't really look very big!.....what unlike old "lanky" Carsley :huh: who it appears did do a too bad a job for us.
  • 0

#90 MikeO

MikeO

    Scars are tattoos with better stories.

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 39,478 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 18:59

Signed.

http://www.evertonfc...l-signs-in.html
  • 0

#91 Louis

Louis

    Dixie Dean

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,611 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 20:12

He speaks very good English for a foreign player.

He said the reasons he signed are:

1. Moyes has impressed him
2. It's a traditional club
3. Tim Cahill
4. He wants to be involved in Oz's World cup campaign
  • 0

#92 Ian C

Ian C

    100% Guaranteed Irish

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,764 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 20:55

African Cup of Nations, do your worst :P
  • 0

#93 Sgt Pepper

Sgt Pepper

    Beaver

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 146 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 20:55

Its official he signed for Everton.
http://www.evertonfc...l-signs-in.html
  • 0

#94 efc-murph

efc-murph

    Brian Labone

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 71 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 21:17

He speaks very good English for a foreign player.

He said the reasons he signed are:

1. Moyes has impressed him
2. It's a traditional club
3. Tim Cahill
4. He wants to be involved in Oz's World cup campaign


this made me laugh hahaaa
  • 0

#95 Man who fell to Goodison

Man who fell to Goodison

    Tim Howard

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 139 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 21:44

He speaks very good English for a foreign player.



Haha. Brilliant.
  • 0

#96 CaptainFerguson10

CaptainFerguson10

    Leon Osman

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 595 posts

Posted 17 Sep 2009 - 21:46

GTFO with your nonsense, Moyes doesn't play players out of position because he loves to, he does it out of necessity. Moyes favours knowing what he's going to get over an unknown quantity, because you can't plan for an unknown quantity.

Grow up and stop with the Moyes bashing.


Behave yourself and stop being pedantic!

Anyway after four years was mooted, he has signed for one year only. Will be interested to hear the breakdown of contract terms, and any possible extensions.

Edited by CaptainFerguson10, 17 Sep 2009 - 21:47.

  • 0

#97 ddd

ddd

    Denis Stracqualursi

  • Members
  • 5 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 00:05

lol alrite i admit im wrong when i say hes better then Jags (just my aussie colours shining through). But he is more suited to the centre and plays best there, i think hed be a better option to partner jags when hes back. Can yobo play right back?
  • 0

#98 The Regulator

The Regulator

    Tim Cahill

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 893 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 01:42

Personally I can't see anything wrong with this transfer.

We got rid of one player, and brought in 3 with the money and now another...as far as I'm concerned this is more great business for Moyes.

Our total possible* defense start of season:
Jags (injured)
Yobo
Lescott
Baines
Hibbert
Rodwell*
Neville
Gosling*

Our total possible* defence at present:
Jags(injured)
Yobo
Distin
Baines
Hibbert
Neill
Heitinga
Neville(injured)
Rodwell*
Gosling*

Rodwell and Gosling will normally play midfield, but Gosling showed great promise in last night's match of being a quality RB which means we now have up to 5 people who can play there, Neill as far as I know can also play CB so we have 5 for that, and we have 3 capable of playing left back.

Honestly compare our team now to last season, I'd say when our injuries are over in 6 - 8 weeks (longer for Neville), we'll be much stronger than we were, and be in a better position considering we have players coming back only 4 games in. Neill won't just walk into the team he'll have to fight to get in, but I for one am relishing the thought of a strong and experienced bench to back up a strong and experienced starting 11. Fuck spurs they always say they'll compete and wind up around 10th, Man City have the weight of expectation and their "stars" antics to deal with, Villa have lost strong players, and that's all we're really competing with for 5th. Depending on whether we can take the maximum from these next soft games (Blackburn H, Portsmouth A, Stoke H, Wolves H, Bolton A) we could be 4th by Halloween.

Or we could lose all confidence and play crap and end up bottom. Don't think so somehow.
  • 0

#99 Maghull70

Maghull70

    Dave Watson

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 386 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 01:49

nothing douchebag

I dont rate him
and he is a money grabbing khunt

seriously he turned down Liverpool for West Ham!



I'd turn down Liverpool for West Ham.

I'm sure if he chose Liverpool over West Ham then he'd be called a Glory Hunting "Khunt". ??????????
  • 0

#100 foobiezw

foobiezw

    (╯□)╯︵ ┻━┻

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 187 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 02:32

Rather than heckling already, why don't we all just wait and see how he plays, instead of calling him a 'khunt'.
  • 0

#101 inertia8

inertia8

    Leon Osman

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 531 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 02:46

I'm happy to see him in the squad. Thought he has always been great for Australia at international level and hope he does well at Everton. As has been said, bit of a hot head at times, hopefully it won't cost us.

To be honest I thought we may have secured his services before the window shut... given our need for a RB and financial difficulties... perhaps another excellent piece of business letting him lanquish for a month without playing, world cup looming, offering a lower wage and getting it accepted...

How much of the wage grab responsibility would fall on his agent? If the agent continually tells the player he's worth more and to hold out... or is it inflated self worth following west ham?
  • 0

#102 buddy

buddy

    Daniel Amokachi

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 13 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 03:30

Cannot believe the reaction to this signing. All I ever hear from Everton fans is whinges about 1. Tony Hibbert not being up to EPL standard, and 2. We don't have enough squad depth to compete in both the EPL and Europa. And now, we go and sign a guy who can play Hibbert's position, and add some much needed depth to the squad, and most people seem annoyed at the signing? He's no world beater, but he'll do a job for us, and fill an important hole. Let's not forget, we signed him on a FREE.

And I for one love the fact that he turned down Liverpool. Makes his move to Goodison all the more sweeter.
  • 0

#103 TC.

TC.

    Tim Cahill

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 897 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 07:27

I was a bit sceptical of signing him at first, but when I think about it another Aussie in the squad is always good :)

Lucas is a good player, having watched him many times for Australia and around the Premier League there is no doubt he is quality. My only concern now is I'm not all that keen to see Heitinga play at DM which is what seems will be the case now that Neill is here.

One question though, will Neill be eligable for Europe? I would have thought he would be because he hasn't played for anybody in Europe competition this season, unlike Heitinga who had and was therefore ineligable.
  • 0

#104 Patto

Patto

    Time Will Tell

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,046 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 09:09

dont think he will be available untill maybe the later stages as i think we had to submit a squad for the first stages....i think after the first stage we can then submit a new squad. i could be wrong though.
  • 0

#105 Adpom

Adpom

    Duncan Ferguson

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 691 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 09:51

He a very experianced defender in the PL. good signing for free. we need more defensive cover, now we got it. Good bit of business.
  • 0

#106 Romey 1878

Romey 1878

    Mildo

  • Cyber Steward
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 44,210 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 10:21

Anything that gets Hibbert out of our starting line-up is more than fine with me :D .
  • 0

#107 kurt321

kurt321

    Tim Howard

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 115 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 11:13

nothing douchebag

I dont rate him
and he is a money grabbing khunt

seriously he turned down Liverpool for West Ham!

Who gives a rats ass? every player in the world is money hungry you twat!
  • 0

#108 EFC-Paul

EFC-Paul

    If you are going through hell....keep going

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,586 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 11:19

Who gives a rats ass? every player in the world is money hungry you twat!


No need to get your knickers in a twist if he doesn't rate him its his opinion no need to throw abuse for such a simple thing :gay:
  • 0

#109 jofanon

jofanon

    Kevin Sheedy

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,544 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 12:20

Assuming everyone is free from injury, what is our best defense now?

Heitinga Jags Distin Baines

Neill Jags Heitinga Baines


?
  • 0

#110 EFC-Paul

EFC-Paul

    If you are going through hell....keep going

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,586 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 12:35

Assuming everyone is free from injury, what is our best defense now?

Heitinga Jags Distin Baines

Neill Jags Heitinga Baines


?


I posed the same question myself mate im not to sure what Moyes has planned with who and what we have brought in for a change a nice one at that we have plenty of options, Myself i think our strongest back line would be Heitinga Jags Distin Baines for me i think Distin will play a big part in our season with his experience and leadership qualities, Aslong as Jags gets back to his old self he is a cert and so is Baines im just unsure on how good Heitinga is as i've not seen enough of him to judge him fairly but from what little i have seen and what people think of him i would put at RB as he is quicker then both Hibbert and Neill and would complement Pienaar better.

---------------Howard

Heitinga----Jags----Distin----Baines

--------------Rodwell

Pienaar---Arteta----Fellaini---Bily

---------------Yakubu

Not a bad line up which ever way you shape it really :)
  • 0

#111 jofanon

jofanon

    Kevin Sheedy

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,544 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 12:56

I posed the same question myself mate im not to sure what Moyes has planned with who and what we have brought in for a change a nice one at that we have plenty of options, Myself i think our strongest back line would be Heitinga Jags Distin Baines for me i think Distin will play a big part in our season with his experience and leadership qualities, Aslong as Jags gets back to his old self he is a cert and so is Baines im just unsure on how good Heitinga is as i've not seen enough of him to judge him fairly but from what little i have seen and what people think of him i would put at RB as he is quicker then both Hibbert and Neill and would complement Pienaar better.

---------------Howard

Heitinga----Jags----Distin----Baines

--------------Rodwell

Pienaar---Arteta----Fellaini---Bily

---------------Yakubu

Not a bad line up which ever way you shape it really :)

That's what I'd go for (although I might swap Yak with Saha).

Very balanced team.

Great little on paper, we just need to start playing to our abilities. We need some wins in the league pronto.
  • 0

#112 craigb

craigb

    King Louis

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 632 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 15:03

anyone know how much he will be on with us?
  • 0

#113 jamiemaher85

jamiemaher85

    Those Feet

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,624 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 17:01

I was unsure about this at first but i've really come around to it now. Not much more you can ask for. Premier League and International experience. Has captained Blackburn, West Ham and Australia. All the players we have signed are captains (Niell, Hietinga, Distin, Bilyaletinov). He will be a great addition to the bench and adds the depth we need to challenge for Europe. When (and if) we have a full team available to us we will have a very strong line-up and bench, which is a very refreshing change. I for one can't remember having such depth to the team in recent years, weare not perfect yet in terms of numbers but we are getting close.
  • 0

#114 Sgt Pepper

Sgt Pepper

    Beaver

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 146 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 17:21

I was unsure about the signing at first too, but thinking about it he's a free experienced player. He probably wants to play in World cup that'll push him forward.
  • 0

#115 Allmark-Blue27

Allmark-Blue27

    Anders Limpar

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 42 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 18:21

dont no why everyones unsure... hes a great player far better than hibbo
  • 0

#116 scouse

scouse

    Joe Royle

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,825 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 19:24

dont no why everyones unsure... hes a great player far better than hibbo


My thoughts exactly, anyone who turns down liverpool and breaks Carraghers leg is ok by me!!! only joking about the latter by the way...
  • 0

#117 DonKey

DonKey

    Tim Cahill

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 837 posts

Posted 18 Sep 2009 - 23:44

Thought he came across quite well in his little interview on Ch5. Didn't sound at all like the Billy Big Balls I thought he would. Praise for Moyes, praised the club, said it would be good playing with Cahill, and then said he hoped to play a 'small but significant part' in our season.

Like a lot of folk on here I was unsure about him, but he is a decent player who adds depth and experience to a good squad.

All in all, quite pleased with the lads we've brought in! Well done Moyesy!
  • 0

#118 Churinga2

Churinga2

    Tim Cahill

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 859 posts

Posted 19 Sep 2009 - 00:24

anyone know how much he will be on with us?


curious about this to.

i don't know him that wel, but I'm hearing alot of positive about him.
and again a captain brought in!
  • 0

#119 austoffee

austoffee

    Denis Stracqualursi

  • Members
  • 1 posts

Posted 19 Sep 2009 - 05:59

big part of the reason lucas didn't sign for liverpool is because he didn't think that he would get any game time.
  • 0

#120 marcopaulo

marcopaulo

    marcopaulo - pun lover

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,687 posts

Posted 19 Sep 2009 - 14:26

great signing i think! very experienced and versatile defender who can also cover for baines too! and for nothin too! also moyes wouldnt pay over the odds in terms of wages so i cant see him bein on a shedload as we didnt him that badly to pay massive wages!
  • 0




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users