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#1 Louis

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Posted 21 Jan 2009 - 15:01

Planning Inspector Karen Ridge rejected Everton's appeal against Liverpool City Council's rejection of the club's application to build 74 homes on the site of Bellefield. This means that the club will need to find 8million from somewhere else to put towards the stadium development.
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#2 MikeO

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Posted 21 Jan 2009 - 16:08

Sounds like the council are just being difficult to me...

"The truly disappointing aspect of this is that the politcians who run this city went against the recommendations of the Council's own planning experts. In such circumstances you have to ask, why is that? What is the point in employing experienced and learned experts if you are simply going to ignore their advice?"

"Over the past few years we have constantly shown a willingness to work with Liverpool City Council to safeguard the long-term future of our football club...sadly, it does not appear to be a reciprocal arrangement."

"The council's own Director of Planning threw his weight behind this project - he believed it to be both sensible and suitable - and so did we."


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#3 Everton_Worshiper

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Posted 21 Jan 2009 - 20:11

Sounds like the council are just being difficult to me...


Spot on Mike.
It is a case of LCC doing everything they can to scupper a move. If we were going with a proposal that involved LCC I can imagine there would have been much less objection to the Bellefield redevelopment.
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Posted 21 Jan 2009 - 21:28

did you expect anything else every concievable move everton have made from day one has been blocked or hit with council dissaprovement nothing suprises me not since we first applied for stanley park got knocked back and that lot over the road were given it the whole thing stinks it turns my stomach it really does
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Posted 21 Jan 2009 - 21:47

I've heard that Peter Johnson wanted to build a car park opposite the cemetery on Stanley Park but was told no, informally. It may just be chinese whispers and we'll never know until Peter Johnson/David Henshaw says one way or the other.

I'm not going to disagree - I think it was a political move too, Liverpool City Council protecting their interests (more to do with retail possibly). It was a very brave tactic and could come back to haunt the council in the local elections.

Elstone always knew this was a possibility (a likely one - even David Wilson homes pulled out) when he took over from Wyness and I don't think it's wise of him to lambaste the council for a decision an independent planning officer made in the local media. Pin the tail on the scapegoat.

The rejection has closed one door, but it has opened the possibility of a land swap. LCC may be convinced to provide some land near the city centre in exchange for Bellefield to do with as they please. If Elstone was shrewd enough he could stitch up the council so they couldn't develop houses on Bellefield.
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#6 Jimmy the blue

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Posted 23 Jan 2009 - 00:35

As the council has seen fit to ignore the advice of their own people that the land was suitable for residential property I just wonder if Tesco just might want to build a store on it, just a thought mind :rolleyes:

Edited by Jimmy the blue, 23 Jan 2009 - 00:36.

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#7 john_webby

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Posted 23 Jan 2009 - 01:04

its not really the most accessable place for a tesco's really
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Posted 25 Jun 2010 - 16:35

I was talking to a chap the other day and he said his company were one of many bidders interested in using Bellefield as a housing redevelopment project, he said it's a prime area and highly sought after.

Does anyone know if this could now get the green light with the new government/ local council changes?
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Posted 25 Jun 2010 - 23:59

Sell it to the shite. They'll get permission <_<
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Posted 27 Jun 2010 - 18:34

I was talking to a chap the other day and he said his company were one of many bidders interested in using Bellefield as a housing redevelopment project, he said it's a prime area and highly sought after.

Does anyone know if this could now get the green light with the new government/ local council changes?



Daily Post today says we are resubmitting plans

http://www.liverpool...00252-26737709/
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Posted 27 Jun 2010 - 19:23

Daily Post today says we are resubmitting plans

http://www.liverpool...00252-26737709/


Obviously it's because of the info I gave!!! :angel:
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#12 Romey 1878

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Posted 27 Jun 2010 - 19:25

I imagine the residents will still be against the idea.
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Posted 27 Jun 2010 - 23:10

http://www.bellefield.co.uk
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Posted 29 Jun 2010 - 22:20

wish i could afford one of them
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Posted 01 Jul 2010 - 01:59

I hope it goes through - we need the money!!!
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Posted 01 Jul 2010 - 12:00

I'm just wondering how a fresh plan with even more housing on it is going to work?
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Posted 01 Jul 2010 - 14:44

It probably won't.. unless the council turn a blind eye to get into the club's good books.
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Posted 20 Oct 2010 - 11:52

http://www.nsno.co.u...to-be-approved/
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Posted 20 Oct 2010 - 16:55

details here
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Posted 27 Oct 2010 - 07:09

http://www.liverpool...92534-27549385/



The application has been deferred until Nov 9 pending a site visit
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Posted 27 Oct 2010 - 07:21

It was expected, 26th was optimistic. There are FOUR mortgages (two to Adams Bank and two to Barclays) attached to this plan :blink: Hopefully it'll leave enough for breathing space (cash flow) once they're be paid off. I think it'd be naive to think it would all '£10m' go to Moyes' transfer pot. I expect it'll be approved ultimately.
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Posted 27 Oct 2010 - 08:13

if we dont get permission soon evertonians in the city should withold their rate payments to put pressure on the council...whats going on is scandelous.its an idea i would deffo agree with.
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Posted 27 Oct 2010 - 08:41

That's because it's your suggestion! ;)
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Posted 27 Oct 2010 - 11:22

i just think the council is taking the piss how long has this gone on 3/4 years..theres no excuse for what the council are doing...we should be more like the french and react to situations.
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Posted 28 Oct 2010 - 09:55

I'd usually agree but this time I don't. I'd say that the move to Kirkby may have played a large part in the reasons for the council to reject the application. At the time Councillors were under pressure to reject it from local residents and it was cited as a major source of income to pay for the new stadium, by rejecting the proposal the council would have removed a 'Jenga block' from the Kirkby plan which would result in keeping £7m a year in their boundary.

There were valid reasons for its rejection: http://www.pcs.plann...on%20Letter.pdf

Everton's application met the criteria of (i) the effect of the proposal on the residential amenity of surrounding residents having regard to increased traffic movements; and

but failed to meet (ii) the acceptability of the proposed residential development having regard to: ( a ) loss of green space, ( b ) housing land supply matters and ( c ) its effect on the Housing Market Renewal Initiative.

So it was rejected.

Some of the obstacles have since been overcome so it has a better chance of approval this time around (although it is still controversial). If it wasn't for the fact it was Everton involved would anyone bar local residents really be bothered? Probably not.
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Posted 09 Nov 2010 - 16:48

http://www.liverpool...00252-27628573/
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Posted 09 Nov 2010 - 17:20

Good news :) .
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Posted 10 Nov 2010 - 13:46

You have to laugh: "The money will go towards running Everton in the Community and the club." The same article says it costs £180k to run the charity, so in other words it's paying for the EITC for another year and the rest goes to the club :D

Crafty :)
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Posted 25 Nov 2010 - 14:01

Still not accepted.. there's been a unlawful change to a national guideline so it'll now be re-decided on 30th.
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Posted 30 Nov 2010 - 15:41

Finally approved:

http://www.evertonfc... Rubber-Stamped
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#31 Matt

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Posted 01 Apr 2011 - 08:08

http://www.evertonfc...xclusive-photos
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