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#41 CaptainFerguson10

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Posted 02 Aug 2009 - 20:24

....and Dortmund didn't want Pienaar.

Real Sociadad didn't want Arteta.

City don't want Jo but if he plays like he did today all season he could be a huge asset.

By your logic we wouldn't have signed any of them because "the facts don't lie."


Ok fair cop. But while the players you mentioned were diamonds in the rough, I've had Arsenal fans laughing at me because Senderous may face them on the opening day. I've been wrong plenty of times, let's hope Senderous if he does come can prove me wrong once again.
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Posted 02 Aug 2009 - 21:31

HELL NO!!!!!

Senderos is poor. If we do sell lescott (and its looking more likely by the day) then I hope we bring in someone a lot better than him, for me i would prefer yobo and jags as starting and get a decent youngster in and use the cash on other area's of the team. Would even prefer getting Dunne in the lescott deal and that says something.

Already dissapointed with our transfer activity so far this pre season - getting senderos would be a sign of us goin backwards.

Sorry for the negative mail as Im normally positive but he has proven on many occasions that he just cant cut it in the premiership, moyes can turn a lot of seemingly average players into top class but he isnt a magician! :(
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Posted 02 Aug 2009 - 21:59

HELL NO!!!!!

Senderos is poor. If we do sell lescott (and its looking more likely by the day) then I hope we bring in someone a lot better than him, for me i would prefer yobo and jags as starting and get a decent youngster in and use the cash on other area's of the team. Would even prefer getting Dunne in the lescott deal and that says something.

Already dissapointed with our transfer activity so far this pre season - getting senderos would be a sign of us goin backwards.

Sorry for the negative mail as Im normally positive but he has proven on many occasions that he just cant cut it in the premiership, moyes can turn a lot of seemingly average players into top class but he isnt a magician! :(




moyes is a magician didnt u see what he did last season with so many injuries... :blink: lol
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Posted 02 Aug 2009 - 23:00

At the end of the day Moyes has come out and said that we need to strengthen at the back over the transfer window, so whether Senderos was to join or not, I don't think it signals anything about the Lescott situation. As far as a player I think Senderos would be a brilliant signing for us, as over the past couple of transfer windows David Moyes hasn't managed to bring in any of the marquee players he wants to take us to the next level. Although Senderos hasn't been able to reach his full potential over the past few years, he has still trained and played at the top level in Europe and has vital champions league experience as well as international experience. From missing out on Owen I think Moyes felt any marquee player would give Everton the boost to start the season well and stop a repeat of the first couple of months that we had at the start of last season. In the current market, the money we will spend on Senderos is relatively cheap for a player with good potential and it is not as if we are buying another Van Der Meyde, as this is a player who is committed and proffessional. Other than all this, it would also give us another player participating in the 2010 World Cup, which I am sure all Evertonians will agree adds an extra special element to International Tournaments.

Edited by lawrietimson, 02 Aug 2009 - 23:03.

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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 09:55

We've signed him according to Arseblog:

http://www.oleole.com/blogs/arseblog

One year loan confirmed -

http://www.boerse-ex...799474/newsflow
http://www.nzz.ch/na..._1.3255499.html
http://www.transferm...zu-everton.html


Think they all got the story from the arsenal blog site - lazy journalism. SSN have only have it down as a possibilty so far
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#46 Neil S

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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 10:36

I would have him either as back up or to replace lescott. People keep saying he prone to errors, but so was rio ferdinand at 24.
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 10:55

I would have him either as back up or to replace lescott. People keep saying he prone to errors, but so was rio ferdinand at 24.


I agree, i think Moyes could iron the lad out, as im sure he's capable of being given the confidence to. I'm a pro-senderos fan.
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#48 Lowensda

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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 13:59

http://www.whoateall...ippe_sende.html
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#49 Romey 1878

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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 14:07

If we'd signed this donkey then Everton would have confirmed it by now. If we're even after him there must still be details to be sorted out.
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 16:15

Taking forever to decide if we want to bid for a player as usual
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 16:17

Taking forever to decide if we want to bid for a player as usual



you don't actually know that though, there could be a deal being sorted behind the scenes, or everton might not even be interested in him?
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 16:44

Another target we are mulling over, until somebody comes in, offers a fee and then walks off with the player.
We must be the worst club ever at dealing in the transfer market.
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 17:00

As frustrating as it is, the transfer market for this summer isn't in full swing yet. So many sides have still got a lot to do and we just happen to be one of those clubs. Too much panic and not enough understanding of the complexities...
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 17:50

If we'd signed this donkey then Everton would have confirmed it by now. If we're even after him there must still be details to be sorted out.


how do you come to the conclusion that senderos is a donkey! he has played for one of the top four in england regularly for 5 years and had one season at one of the biggest clubs in the world (milan). his first couple of seasons at arsenal he looked class and then went off the boil slightly due to a couple of high profile mistakes, also over the last few years at arsenal their defence has had no real protection as the likes of viera and gilberto have been allowed to leave and nobody has replaced them leaving the defence more exposed. even seasoned professionals like gallas and toure have looked poor at times for arsenal

i'm not saying the lads a world beater but he would be a good addition whether lescott stays or goes

by the way it weren't too long ago that lescott was atrocious and many blues were calling for him to be droppped cos his form was so bad, so i think you're goin a bit o.t.t. with that comment mate
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 18:03

I stand by my comment; Senderos is a donkey.
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 18:05

http://www.newsnow.c...61874566?-11192

Sorry Rome, get used to him in an Everton shirt...
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 18:07

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/361874566?-11192

Sorry Rome, get used to him in an Everton shirt...



Bollocks :(.

Although, it's a signing (maybe) so at least it's something.
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 18:25

OMG :(
I really really hope he has been brought in as cover and that Moyes has a better target lined up to replace lescott (if he goes) if he stays then personally im not a senderos fan but I would prefer him coming off the bench than moving rodwell back there at the moment.

Life is not easy being a blues fan but hey I wouldnt have it any other way :)
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 22:28

I love automatic translation :P .

In the footsteps of Marc Hottiger
Everton will be trained by the Scots David Moyes. The squad is well-known names such as Phil Neville, Louis Saha, Tim Cahill, Steven Pienaar and Tim Howard occupied. The homestead is the Goodison Park Senderos is Marc Hottiger (1995 to 1997) the second Swiss, when the Liverpoolern under contract.

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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 22:57

I really dont know what the problem is with Senderos yes he is far from world class and prone to the odd mistake but then again non of our current crop are world class nor do they never make mistakes.

He's still young enough to iron out flaws in his game or at least improve in certain area's, He also has a good number of games under his belt at the highest level and his experience in Europe will surely come in handy. I like Lescott he's a good defender but nothing more he's far from world class unlike some seem to be making out since City came knocking and looks half the player when not paired with Jags and im quite confident Moyes can find someone to fill his boots is it Senderos who know's if the rumour is true then i guess time will tell.

Edited by EFC-Paul, 03 Aug 2009 - 22:58.

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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 23:32

I really dont know what the problem is with Senderos yes he is far from world class and prone to the odd mistake but then again non of our current crop are world class nor do they never make mistakes.

He's still young enough to iron out flaws in his game or at least improve in certain area's, He also has a good number of games under his belt at the highest level and his experience in Europe will surely come in handy. I like Lescott he's a good defender but nothing more he's far from world class unlike some seem to be making out since City came knocking and looks half the player when not paired with Jags and im quite confident Moyes can find someone to fill his boots is it Senderos who know's if the rumour is true then i guess time will tell.


spot on there mate, can't stand some of the blind ignorance of some of the so called blue noses on this forum!
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 23:34

spot on there mate, can't stand some of the blind ignorance of some of the so called blue noses on this forum!



It's not blind ignorance having a difference of opinion. I don't think you're ignorant for forgetting about his numerous howlers, you're entitled to your view.
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 23:46

It's not blind ignorance having a difference of opinion. I don't think you're ignorant for forgetting about his numerous howlers, you're entitled to your view.


you only remember his howlers because arsenal are always in the spotlight, look how many howlers lescott, yobo, and even jags occasionally make(villa last season) but because we are not top 4 or fighting for the title they dont get the national media circus jumping all over them. just look at tim howard before he came to us. goalkeeper of the year in his 1st season with united then makes a coule of high profile mistakes and all of a sudden he's the worst goalkeeper in the prem.footbal fans in this country just read the headlines in the back of the paper about another howler, or watch a 30 second clip on motd of alan hansen commenting on bad defending and take that viewpoint.

senderos will be a good buy for the blues whether it be if lescott stays or goes
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 23:48

The facts are we need cover for this position. I don't see why Senderos doesn't fit that bill, ok he may not be the best, but if the price that's been quoted is true, then that's not a bad deal. If he's coming in to replace Lescott that's another question into which I'm not prepared to go. But the fact is, if Lescott does end up leaving, then we'll need more than just Senderos; whether that be Senderos plus one, or any other two CB's. I'm hoping that this Lescott saga is just BS... and the fact that we've being doing the usual Everton dally-dance in the transfer market, I'd honestly take anyone at this moment in time.
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 23:50

Being an Everton fan and season ticket holder means I don't need the media to point out the mistakes our defenders make mate, so I don't really see your point.

I don't rate Senderos in the slightest, I think he's a liability, but if he signs then I live in hope for a big improvement because we'll need him to step in for pretty much the whole season with Jags out for a good while, Joey going to the ACN and Lescott probably leaving.
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Posted 03 Aug 2009 - 23:59

Being an Everton fan and season ticket holder means I don't need the media to point out the mistakes our defenders make mate, so I don't really see your point.

I don't rate Senderos in the slightest, I think he's a liability, but if he signs then I live in hope for a big improvement because we'll need him to step in for pretty much the whole season with Jags out for a good while, Joey going to the ACN and Lescott probably leaving.


well where are you getting it from that senderos is a liability, the media by any chance? or do u watch every single second of every arsenal match to rate him like this. my argument is from what i've seen of senderos is that he's a good defender, ok he has made mistakes but so have our current defenders, he is youger than all our current crop and is only going to improve!
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Posted 04 Aug 2009 - 02:50

http://www.foxsports...5-29437,00.html

apparently confirmed
haha first post =) hi all!

(All the way from Australia)

Edited by wibz, 04 Aug 2009 - 02:51.

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Posted 04 Aug 2009 - 08:09

Phillipe Senderos actually has everything in his locker to be a top defender, its just unlocking his potential and ironing out his mistakes which I think Moyesie believes will come with a regular flow of games and just a bit of confidence!! We have a solid base defensively, have for a number of years and I think we are just the team to kickstart this guys career....if as reports suggest it is a done deal then lets give him the benefit of the doubt, a clean slate ( which we're all entitled to ) and see if we cant get him to the level i am sure he has the ability to get to!! Let the transfers BEGIN!!!
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Posted 04 Aug 2009 - 08:16

According to SSn today, we have got him.

True?

Is he the big name signing you would have expected?
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Posted 04 Aug 2009 - 08:22

According to SSn today, we have got him.

True?

Is he the big name signing you would have expected?



He doesnt need to be a BIG signing.... hes decent & will be a good replacement for lescott
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Posted 04 Aug 2009 - 08:25

I take thet you think Lescott is on his way then DM?
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Posted 04 Aug 2009 - 08:29

I take thet you think Lescott is on his way then DM?



Yep sadly I do.......I may be falling for the old.... believe everything you reed in the papers trick but this time I think they are true.......

Its just a case now of getting Lescott to sign that transfer request......I hope Moysie shits in his boots......
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Posted 04 Aug 2009 - 08:34

I still think he will stay myself, although I dare not predict it, my predictions are woeful. I really hope he does stay. Saying that, if he does leave for Citeh I want to milk the bleeders for every penny we can. Especially as we now seem to have Senderos. The money is badly needed here so the more we can get the better for us. Lets not forget the window is now almost over and to buy now will cost a bit more than if we bought at the start of it, because other clubs will know we are desperate and hold out for exagerated sums.
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Posted 04 Aug 2009 - 08:47

Never been a fan of Senderos, however will reserve judgement on him til after seen him playing for Everton (if he has indeed agreed to join).

We need another centre back for cover and depending on the price this could be a good buy for us.

DM does seem to have the knack of getting the best out of players and he is still young and has played for the Arse and AC Milan last season on loan.
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Posted 04 Aug 2009 - 08:58

Don't know if it's already been posted but the Swiss FA, have mentioned on their site that he has signed for Everton, to be a regular starter to increase his chances of International football and aid Switzerlands World Cup campaign.
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Posted 04 Aug 2009 - 09:02

SSN just said we signed him as well
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Posted 04 Aug 2009 - 09:07

good signing i think, especially as it's only for 2.5m from what I've read. I know he has his critics, but i think at the very least he's a good squad player
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Posted 04 Aug 2009 - 09:08

Don't know if it's already been posted but the Swiss FA, have mentioned on their site that he has signed for Everton, to be a regular starter to increase his chances of International football and aid Switzerlands World Cup campaign.


Two posts up from yours (Foxsports)Plus this from earlier in the thread.......

UPDATE: UEFA.com's German edition has also reported the transfer as complete.
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Posted 04 Aug 2009 - 09:10

a good experianced defender, with lots of euro experiance. decent signing an hopefully the 1st of many.
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Posted 04 Aug 2009 - 09:47

A few seasons ago I was corresponding with an Arsenal fan who was raving about a centre half who was coming through the ranks in their reserve team. It was Philippe Senderos.

I've not really followed his progress but he's been affected by injury problems and probably a loss of confidence through the mistakes that have been highlighted.

But look at the effect confidence can have on a player...Titus Bramble has been pilloried in the media for years for high profile mistakes and a lack of concentration. But last season at Wigan he was praised for his outstanding performances.

So if we have indeed signed Senderos let's give the lad a chance and not judge him on what you have seen or read in the media. I'm with jayC3 on this.

We need cover at centre half and he's been at two of the top clubs in Europe over the last few seasons, so he's no mug.
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