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#1 evertonusa

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Posted 24 Sep 2009 - 16:11

Hey guys,
I would like to know where you guys think Tim Howard ranks among Everton's keepers. I know Neville Southall is the club's all-time boy but I don't know of any others that have played at Everton. Thanks.
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#2 BlueBoy1980

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Posted 24 Sep 2009 - 18:00

He is easily the best since Big Nev.
My knowledge before him is very limited!
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Posted 24 Sep 2009 - 18:11

southall
martyn
howard/gerrard/myre
wright
simonson

thats jus from the keepers ive seen at the club, imo he's a good solid keeper jus under the bracket of world class. in the prem theres only shay given who's unarguably better.
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#4 Romey 1878

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Posted 24 Sep 2009 - 18:13

I don't rate Howard highly but to put him on the same level as Mhyre and Gerrard is criminal.

Edited by Romey 1878, 24 Sep 2009 - 18:13.

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#5 marcopaulo

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Posted 24 Sep 2009 - 18:29

if he wasnt so indecisive id say he was almost perfect but i have a big issue with him sometimes cos he doesnt like to come for the ball and that can be costly! one of the best shot stoppers in the biz id say though!
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Posted 24 Sep 2009 - 22:26

I'd definitely say he was behind Nev and Martyn, but better than Myrhe.

Gerrard, Simonsen and Wright were all a bit turd for us when given a sniff of a chance I reckon.

I'd forgotten all about Simonsen until he came on as sub for Stoke the other day.
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#7 CaptainFerguson10

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Posted 25 Sep 2009 - 00:11

Totally forgot about Myhre, didn't think he was all that good but his hands were massive! I don't rate Howard that much either, Martyn was far more commanding and convincing a keeper. But he is the best we got, so gotta roll with the punches and get on with it. Though I would love to see Moyes buy a keeper of better quality, so both can push each other, but question is who?
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#8 iggy

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Posted 25 Sep 2009 - 07:02

I would put Gordon West in front of Tim too, but then again I am showing my age there!
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#9 duncanmckenzieismagic

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Posted 25 Sep 2009 - 09:04

southall
martyn
howard/gerrard/myre
wright
simonson

thats jus from the keepers ive seen at the club, imo he's a good solid keeper jus under the bracket of world class. in the prem theres only shay given who's unarguably better.



Myre & Gerrard as good as Howard are you having a laugh?

I cant understand why people dont rate him, I think he is one of the best keepers in the Prem

As far as Everton keepers go I can only think of Big Nev and Martyn that were better
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Posted 25 Sep 2009 - 09:22

Myre & Gerrard as good as Howard are you having a laugh?

I cant understand why people dont rate him, I think he is one of the best keepers in the Prem

As far as Everton keepers go I can only think of Big Nev and Martyn that were better


Second what Dunc said :D
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#11 CaptainFerguson10

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Posted 25 Sep 2009 - 10:12

I would put Gordon West in front of Tim too, but then again I am showing my age there!


Not sure about that one.
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Posted 25 Sep 2009 - 10:28

I don't rate Howard highly but to put him on the same level as Mhyre and Gerrard is criminal.

Spot on! He is miles better than either of them...


Totally forgot about Myhre, didn't think he was all that good but his hands were massive! I don't rate Howard that much either, Martyn was far more commanding and convincing a keeper. But he is the best we got, so gotta roll with the punches and get on with it. Though I would love to see Moyes buy a keeper of better quality, so both can push each other, but question is who?

Martyn was a better keeper, no doubt, but he was also 35(ish) when he joined. Tim is only 30, and most keepers are usually best when theyre pushing mid 30's. Considering the skills he has already and that he is only going to improve, he could rival Big Nev and Nige in time!
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#13 iggy

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Posted 25 Sep 2009 - 12:40

Not sure about that one.


Over 400 appearances for Everton with 2 league titles and an FA cup winners medal to his name. Only 3 caps for England (And a certain Mr Banks was around at the time) and selected for the world cup squad in '70 but declined his place for family reasons.
It may be my age clouding the memory but I thought he was brilliant at the time, he was the first Everton keeper I ever saw and nobody came close before big Nevs arrival, works for me mate.
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Posted 25 Sep 2009 - 12:58

Over 400 appearances for Everton with 2 league titles and an FA cup winners medal to his name. Only 3 caps for England (And a certain Mr Banks was around at the time) and selected for the world cup squad in '70 but declined his place for family reasons.
It may be my age clouding the memory but I thought he was brilliant at the time, he was the first Everton keeper I ever saw and nobody came close before big Nevs arrival, works for me mate.


And there was me thinking you were a Dai Davis fan iggy. :lol:
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Posted 25 Sep 2009 - 13:44

howard is way better than myhre and gerrard!

I think howard is a really good keeper, one of the better keepers we have had in recent times..

My only concern, well i have 2,

first one being as someone noted earlier, he doesnt like to come for the ball when its hanging around the box, he assumes the defender will clear it, and then this causes confusion, it has done loads of times.

Secondly i dont think his positional sense from shots 25 yards plus is that good, he needs to work on that.

I do hold him in high regards though, plus he loves playing for everton, another player i respect fully.

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Posted 28 Sep 2009 - 22:43

big nev will always be the man, martyn has been the best since. we must remember though, martyn had at least five years more experience in the prem when he signed than howard did. he can still grow with experience.

westy is a legend, and a great fella too. very very entertaining guy.
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Posted 29 Sep 2009 - 12:15

Enough of in-club comparisons now. Where do you guys think Howard ranks compared to other Premier League keepers?

Without any bias I reckon probably top 5 minimum. Cech and Reina are still fighting it out for no1 in my mind.
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#18 duncanmckenzieismagic

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Posted 29 Sep 2009 - 14:07

Enough of in-club comparisons now. Where do you guys think Howard ranks compared to other Premier League keepers?

Without any bias I reckon probably top 5 minimum. Cech and Reina are still fighting it out for no1 in my mind.




I would honestly say he is in the top 3 with Given and Reina ahead of him. Petr Cech is past it now he is to prone to daft mistakes these days

Edited by duncanmckenzieismagic, 29 Sep 2009 - 14:07.

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#19 adz09

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Posted 29 Sep 2009 - 14:09

Van Der Sar (when fit)
Cech
Reina
Given

Probably better, thats it
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Posted 29 Sep 2009 - 14:12

ok i know he plays for pool and i may be seein it through blue glasses here but is reina really that good? he makes a lot of errors i think too many to be considered the best and has a crackin defence in front of him which is the reason he kept so many clean sheets i mean he is good dont get me wrong but nowhere near as good as cech...the likes of given and jaaskeleinen for me who played in poor teams but are fantastic still are better than him and howard i put tim at number 4

1. Cech
2. Given
3. Jaaskaleinen
4. Howard
5. Van Der Sar
6. Reina
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#21 Ian C

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Posted 29 Sep 2009 - 14:44

Given
Reina
Howard
Van Der Sar
Cech
Jaaskaleinen
Schwarzer
Sorensen
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Posted 29 Sep 2009 - 15:00

no one thinks friedel is in the top 7-8 keepers? I do

My list -

Given
Reina
jaaskelainen
Van Der Sar
Howard
Friedel
Schwarzer
Green

I actually think cech these days is a poor goalkeeper, probably since his "Accident"
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Posted 29 Sep 2009 - 20:59

Great avatar craigb, keep in the good work!
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Posted 29 Sep 2009 - 21:06

I like Howard but this is the rankings I would choose :

Cech
Reina
Van Der Sar
Schwarzer
Friedel
Given
Jaaskeleinen
Howard
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#25 CaptainFerguson10

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Posted 29 Sep 2009 - 21:09

Cech
Van Der Sar
Schwarzer
Given
Friedel
Howard
Jaaskeleinen

Regardless of my dislike towards the RS, I don't rate Reina one bit.
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#26 marcopaulo

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Posted 30 Sep 2009 - 18:37

Cech
Van Der Sar
Schwarzer
Given
Friedel
Howard
Jaaskeleinen

Regardless of my dislike towards the RS, I don't rate Reina one bit.


christ im glad someone agrees about reina i was gettin worried :lol:


as for friedel a couple years ago id have put him there
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#27 CraccerC

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Posted 30 Sep 2009 - 19:11

he's decent but as mentioned he's no martyn and certainly no big nev.

as for reina, he's a quality keeper...one of the best in the prem and miles better than howard im afraid.
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#28 milky71

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Posted 30 Sep 2009 - 19:49

i believe howard holds the clean sheet record which indicates something
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#29 pete0

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Posted 30 Sep 2009 - 23:31

i believe howard holds the clean sheet record which indicates something

yea, that theres a better defense infront of him
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Posted 01 Oct 2009 - 09:12

Great avatar craigb, keep in the good work!


haha :D
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#31 KinseyG

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Posted 01 Oct 2009 - 13:09

i think he is one of the best, hes an international, has the experience and does his job constantly.
talks a lot to the defenders and tells them exactly what he expects
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