Guest fullfat Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 little leon may not be the best player in our squad but for me is a modern day unsworth by which i mean he actually wants to play for the club and not the money and always gives 100% and unlike pienaar scores a few goals i also feel he gets a lot of negative posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 little leon may not be the best player in our squad but for me is a modern day unsworth by which i mean he actually wants to play for the club and not the money and always gives 100% and unlike pienaar scores a few goals i also feel he gets a lot of negative posts I agree with you about Leon but cant see the point of the pop at Piennar. If your trying to say he is better than Piennar you are way off the mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Leon Osman: (my value £5m) Pro's: Two footed, clever, skillful, true blue cons: weak, lacks pace, inconsistent, fades out of games Steven Pienaar: (my value £12m) Pro's: Two footed, clever, skillful, energetic, hard working, versatile, assists, strong, quick, influencial cons: maybe hasn't scored as many goals as he should given his talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 I for one would be sad to see Osman leave Everton.I see Pienaar and Osman as quite similar players, but with Pienaar capable of doing much more damage to opponents.Though saying that every now and then Osman does world class little touches and is capable of scoring some excellent goals. For me Pienaar's name should be one of the first on the team sheet, but remember it wasn't always that way, it took him time to settle. Osmans for me these days tends to be not quite a dead cert start, but almost too good to be called just a squad player. Osmans an Evertonian.....he does try his hardest....Can't ask too much more of the lad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 i always thought Leon was a red??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamsmith69 Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 i always thought Leon was a red??? You're correct Ossie was brought up a red, although i think he has been transformed. Similar to Carragher, Fowler, Gerrard etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 You're correct Ossie was brought up a red, although i think he has been transformed. Similar to Carragher, Fowler, Gerrard etc ....and Peter Reid . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 The difference between Osman and Pienaar is that Osman plays well and dominates against Wigan and Pienaar plays well and dominates against Brazil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 (edited) ossie goes missing too much hes a good player but too weak and sometimes doesnt seem to have the stamina cos he looks out of puff after 60-70 minutes whereas i feel pienaar could run two marathons somedays! hes a good player to have in the squad i think but a fully fit squad wouldnt have osman starting sadly cos ive always liked leon and i liked the way he battled from that horrible injury he had! edit: if we're on about reds playin for us mr baxter is one too Edited October 11, 2009 by marcopaulo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 The difference between Osman and Pienaar is that Osman plays well and dominates against Wigan and Pienaar plays well and dominates against Brazil. What an analogy! true though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky71 Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 What an analogy! true though shame brazil are'nt in prem though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 shame brazil are'nt in prem though Shame Osman isn't good enough for an international call-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 You're correct Ossie was brought up a red, although i think he has been transformed. Similar to Carragher, Fowler, Gerrard etc Nah he wasnt, my mum is mates with his mum and his dad is a blue. However Ossie was a red as a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Ossie is a good premier league footballer however he is not good enough for our first eleven anymore. A squad player at the moment but as we know Moysie values the traits Ossie brings which every club needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs392762 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I agree that Ossie isnt a first teamer when were healthy, but being a true blue I will never say anything bad about him. He works hard and that goes a long ways for me. Yes, you do need some skill which he has, but working your a** off will always get you praise after a match. Pineaar is dirty. That's all. Billy and Pineaar streaking down the flanks is going to make outside wings and backs go insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I agree that Ossie isnt a first teamer when were healthy, but being a true blue I will never say anything bad about him. He works hard and that goes a long ways for me. Yes, you do need some skill which he has, but working your a** off will always get you praise after a match. Pineaar is dirty. That's all. Billy and Pineaar streaking down the flanks is going to make outside wings and backs go insane What do you mean?? I can only presume that "dirty" means something totally different where you are from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 i was gonna say i dont get the dirty bit either...to us that means hes a cheat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I agree that Ossie isnt a first teamer when were healthy, but being a true blue I will never say anything bad about him. He works hard and that goes a long ways for me. Yes, you do need some skill which he has, but working your a** off will always get you praise after a match. Pineaar is dirty. That's all. Billy and Pineaar streaking down the flanks is going to make outside wings and backs go insane wtf does that mean anyway? And you got to be from another planet if you think Pienaar is a dirty player, he is probably the most fouled player in the prem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Come on guys it's pretty clear that "dirty" has been lost in translation sonewhere over the Atlantic . Definitely meant as a positive imo...in American College English . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Come on lads it's pretty clear that "dirty" has been lost in translation sonewhere over the Atlantic . Definitely meant as a positive imo. yeah it is meant as a positive, sounds to me like he means hes a really good player. He would be correct in assuming this also! Osman, i find he is the one i get angry most with on a matchday, the one i find shouting at either from the stands or at the tele... But then he can do somethign brilliant a minute later. He does my head in when he does this, but he is now not good enough for the starting 11, a decent enough squad player, with 20 mins left etc, could pop up and do something special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) "Dirty" as a slang. Think 'dirty' by Christina Aguilera, its claimed as something that's 'hot!'. It's like when someone who says "thats the sh*t", when literally it means rubbish or crap, but as a modern slang is used as a positive. Same's happenin with dirty, it's someone who gets you going, gets the blood pumpin if you know what i mean Edited October 12, 2009 by tenaciousj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 from urban dictionary here fellas Dirty adj; great at something,usually sports That guy is dirty at football Gomes,you are too dirty at passing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Lol well I was presuming it meant something different over there although you can never be too sure he could have been another Milky/PeteO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs392762 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Thanks Mike. Sorry men. American College boy. Dirty and Sick mean awesome and fun to watch. Gotta get with the English lingo...sorry mates. This was definitely a great topic to talk about. I'm glad a dictionary was consulted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 good old UD gotta love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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