wakeyblue Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Hibbert was dreadful. Coleman needs to be given a shot against Burnley. The lad has proven himself against strong opposition. He offers so much that Hibbo doesn't: pace going forward, aggressive play, hungry for a chance to prove himself, youth. DM needs to take a chance. nice shout mate agree totaly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Coleman must start...that's it, that's all. The kid has hunger, he must cringe when he sees every cross of Hibbert's hit a defender (as he telegraphs his long winde up,swing) Hibbert is complacent,rests on his tenure and does nothing of value. Yawn! Hibbo may not be the complete defender but he is anything but complacent and he would run through the proverbial brick wall for Everton Hibbo has been superb during the last few months even when he has been called upon to play as a CB, all the Hibbo bashers must have been drooling at the thought of him getting slaughtered and must have been so dissapointed to see him turn in MoM performances from that position Why dont people get off his back he did absolutely nothing wrong yesterday at all. Coleman undoubtedly has potential and his time will come The goal came from Johnny H getting out jumped then being slow to get back in position and where was the cover from Niell? I would also call setting up the equalising goal something of value! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 how many of hibberts crosses hit the first defender yesterday 1 out of twenty crosses aint good enough im sick of seeing it from him This. We're so lopsided in attack with Hibbert; 9 out of 10 attacks break down when we go down the right and this is why Coleman must start against Burnley. Why? Because we've got to attack them in every way possible to get those 3 points, and let's be honest, Burnley may be doing decent points wise this season but they are NOT a good side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeyblue Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Yawn! Hibbo may not be the complete defender but he is anything but complacent and he would run through the proverbial brick wall for Everton Hibbo has been superb during the last few months even when he has been called upon to play as a CB, all the Hibbo bashers must have been drooling at the thought of him getting slaughtered and must have been so dissapointed to see him turn in MoM performances from that position Why dont people get off his back he did absolutely nothing wrong yesterday at all. Coleman undoubtedly has potential and his time will come The goal came from Johnny H getting out jumped then being slow to get back in position and where was the cover from Niell? I would also call setting up the equalising goal something of value! i aint slagging hibbert off just makeing observation that his distribution of the the ball most of the time is woeful his defending is as good as anyones at the club but its no good getting so many players up the pitch and he cant cross it it must piss our strikers off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegwolf203 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Yawn! Hibbo may not be the complete defender but he is anything but complacent and he would run through the proverbial brick wall for Everton Hibbo has been superb during the last few months even when he has been called upon to play as a CB, all the Hibbo bashers must have been drooling at the thought of him getting slaughtered and must have been so dissapointed to see him turn in MoM performances from that position Why dont people get off his back he did absolutely nothing wrong yesterday at all. Coleman undoubtedly has potential and his time will come The goal came from Johnny H getting out jumped then being slow to get back in position and where was the cover from Niell? I would also call setting up the equalising goal something of value! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/everton/6879938/Tony-Hibbert-the-great-survivor-rises-to-challengers-at-Everton.html I wasn't attacking the man's character, he has the bluest blood out of any of em'. This article illustrates ALL of our points pretty well, that being said, IMO the monocre of "the great survivor" doesn't satisfy me as a supporter. That just sounds like the guy that does enough, granted I don't know everything and do not claim to, but I'm waiting to be impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 i've been happy enough with Hibbo in general recently but would be pleased to see Coleman play today in a game we should dominate. With his ability to go up the win with plenty of pace and get a good ball in I think he's worth the game giving both wings 2 could players attacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrawfor Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 It's a fucking joke that Moyes didn't give Seamie a start today. He was put on late...two minutes later we scored from the right. I haven't a clue how he hasn't played any part in our last 3 league matches. If Davey isn't going to start him, he should be coming off the bench at 60 or 70 mins. Every time he has been in we gain something we DON'T otherwise have, a RIGHT SIDED ATTACK. Against Arsenal we need to have some speed down the flank as well as a mean tackle. With Sagna, their right side is too much for Hibbo. I wanna see this defense. Coleman Neill Heitinga Baines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Seamie ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 It's a fucking joke that Moyes didn't give Seamie a start today. He was put on late...two minutes later we scored from the right. I haven't a clue how he hasn't played any part in our last 3 league matches. If Davey isn't going to start him, he should be coming off the bench at 60 or 70 mins. Every time he has been in we gain something we DON'T otherwise have, a RIGHT SIDED ATTACK. Against Arsenal we need to have some speed down the flank as well as a mean tackle. With Sagna, their right side is too much for Hibbo. I wanna see this defense. Coleman Neill Heitinga Baines Sagna is a right back, so that would mean he would be coming down are Left? which isnt were Hibbo Plays (just saying) But i Do agree with you Totally that Seamus should be starting, as good as Hibbo is Defensivly, i dont think he is any were near good enough going forward as some of the teams around us Right backs. Seamus is just as good as Hibbo Defensivly but alot better going forward. Dont Get me Wrong here, i think Hibbo is a great asset to the club, but i think we need to progress in terms of keeping up with the teams around us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Hibbert was an absolute arsebag yesterday, and it's laughable that the only reason Coleman got on was because Hibbert was injured! I went home thinking Moyes had actually made a good tactical decision for a change, only for that to be blown out of the water after his interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 :gay: Hibbert was an absolute arsebag yesterday, and it's laughable that the only reason Coleman got on was because Hibbert was injured! I went home thinking Moyes had actually made a good tactical decision for a change, only for that to be blown out of the water after his interview. I didnt think Hibbert was any worse than the rest of them to be honest, not saying much I know! People need to get the whole Coleman thing into perspective hes had one good game ( and one nightmare!) and everybody has him down as a world beater. Give the lad a chance before heeping too much pressure on him Moyse sees him every day in training and I trust him to be able to judge how good a player he is and I am sure he will put him in when he thinks he is ready. Im sure it must be frustrating for all the Hibbo bashers but he has been playing well in the last few games and doesnt deserve to be dropped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted January 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 :gay: I didnt think Hibbert was any worse than the rest of them to be honest, not saying much I know! People need to get the whole Coleman thing into perspective hes had one good game ( and one nightmare!) and everybody has him down as a world beater. Give the lad a chance before heeping too much pressure on him Moyse sees him every day in training and I trust him to be able to judge how good a player he is and I am sure he will put him in when he thinks he is ready. Im sure it must be frustrating for all the Hibbo bashers but he has been playing well in the last few games and doesnt deserve to be dropped One nightmare... out of position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 :gay: I didnt think Hibbert was any worse than the rest of them to be honest, not saying much I know! I didn't say he was, that accolade would go to Bily. People need to get the whole Coleman thing into perspective hes had one good game ( and one nightmare!) and everybody has him down as a world beater. Give the lad a chance before heeping too much pressure on him Give the lad a chance is exactly what I'm wanting, yesterday would have been the perfect opportunity for that. Im sure it must be frustrating for all the Hibbo bashers but he has been playing well in the last few games and doesnt deserve to be dropped Hibbert has been playing well recently, but seeing as I was talking about the Carlisle game and he was very poor my comments still stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 The boss is without any doubt well aware of the capabilities of both players, Coleman's presence has made Hibbo pull his socks up. SC is a huge talent, he has speed and control crossed with excellent distribution, his was one of the most effective home debuts I have ever seen, and I've seen a few over the years. My Christmas retro shirt carries the lads name. Hibbo is injured, he may need to see a specialist hence Seamus will now get his chance, woe betide him if he slips up because Hibbo will be ready to take the shirt back on his return. The big bonus out of Hibbo's injury is that we will all have a chance to fully assess Seamus full potential. Lets not forget young Duffy who must soon be given more chances, he was that good against Bate................with lads like these coming through our future is in safe hands lads, don't knock the kids just cheer for them when they get their chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Every chance imo that if Hibbo's not fit for the Arsenal game Neville will play right back. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Every chance imo that if Hibbo's not fit for the Arsenal game Neville will play right back. Sorry. Don't be sorry Mike just cus you're wrong mate tbh I doubt if Pip is upto running the full pitch all day following his return from injury, hanging round the middle of the park and barking out orders. We will also be looking for a place play Donovan as well or will his loan start from the bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Don't be sorry Mike just cus you're wrong mate Either way I won't be around to say (or hear) "told you so" because I'm going to be sliding down a Pyrennean mountain next Saturday . Thought it the safest place to be after the opening day game at Goodison . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy the blue Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 (edited) Tbh Mike I think you could be right but in saying that I believe that lad deserves a push and if the player he is deputising for is injured it could come like a kick in the teeth to be left out yet again after earning rave reviews against Spuds. If Donovan plays he could end up packing the midfield.................7 - 1 to us, honest Edited January 3, 2010 by Jimmy the blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Hope I'm wrong....be delighted to see Seamus start, fit Hibbo or no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrawfor Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 seamie...his facebook says seamie...sorry. also, thanks for calling me about the Sagna playing our right...he may prove to be too much for even Baines. Coleman has had 3 great appearances for us. He was MOM, then again for BATE he was class and on against carlisle he was involved in the cahill goal. He deserves to be seeing a prem start here and there...not to mention the next FA cup match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 The problem with Seamus is that we dont really know how good he is defensively and against Arsenal he could get ripped apart. He is certainly quality going forward and he has looked at least decent defensively in the games we have seen BUT they havent had the quality and movement that Arsenal at home will have. Arsenal are down to their 3rd and 4th choice LB's and the LW wont be tracking back all that often so it may well be their weakness so I say why not chuck him in. If he makes mistakes at the back at least he can try and make up for it going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 The problem with Seamus is that we dont really know how good he is defensively and against Arsenal he could get ripped apart. He is certainly quality going forward and he has looked at least decent defensively in the games we have seen BUT they havent had the quality and movement that Arsenal at home will have. Arsenal are down to their 3rd and 4th choice LB's and the LW wont be tracking back all that often so it may well be their weakness so I say why not chuck him in. If he makes mistakes at the back at least he can try and make up for it going forward. Then we can blame it on the fact we are playing Arsenal at Arsenal, and noone will think any differently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Hibbert was an absolute arsebag yesterday, and it's laughable that the only reason Coleman got on was because Hibbert was injured! I went home thinking Moyes had actually made a good tactical decision for a change, only for that to be blown out of the water after his interview. exactly my thoughts that mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrawfor Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Séamus is a male first name of Celtic origin, pronounced /ˈʃeɪməs/ "SHAY-mus" in English. It is the Gaelic equivalent of the name James, ultimately from the Hebrew יַעֲקֹב Yaʿaqov. Variant spellings include Séamas, Seumus, Shaymus and Shamus. Diminutives include Séimí, Séimín and Séamaisín. Its meaning is "one who supplants" or "substitute". In the United States, the name "Shamus" is sometimes used as a slang word for private detective. ~wikipedia hopefully Moyes hasn't read into this whole Seamus means substitute business and more into the "one who supplants." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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