Lowensda Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 I'd argue that our attackers aren't as good as last season. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 I'd argue that our attackers aren't as good as last season. Seems obvious since we've sold our best attacker for 75m and haven't yet replaced him... I think we have lots of potential but also a good deal of risk in our attack right now.. We need proven class in the event that our riskier options don't pan out. This is why Siggy and Giroud are necessary additions imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 I would say we were bad in attack for the last eight games. We were aiming for top six but settled for a seven default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 There first 3 are unproven, proven not good enough and injured for most of the season. Siggy is the exception, Klaasen is likely to play in central midfield ano I've covered Rooney. Other two unproven but with potential. I'd argue that our attackers aren't as good as last season. Lookman has potential there is no doubt about that, he has looked good in the games he has played for us and I believe this will be his breakthrough season. Mirallas is good enough he is just inconsistent. Bolasie will be back before Christmas. Which is why we need a winger or wide attacking midfielder. Klassen wherever he plays, and I think it will be in midfield, we will not need to play 2 holding midfielders against most sides, is creative and will make chances. The same apply's to Siggy, although I think he will play in the front 3. Plus we have Rooney, who although not a striker will link up play well. We will be a better attacking unit than we were last season when we have a striker, at the moment we have creative players but no focal point, like an orchestra without a conductor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I haven't seen it with Lookman yet. Not anything that says he is Prem quality but he is young and hasn't had much of a chance. Mirallas isn't good enough, people should stop trying to convince themselves that he is. I haven't seen anything from Klaasen to say he is creative. Imo his movement creates chances not his ability on the ball if that makes sense. I think there is more potential in the group of players we have now but as it stands I would have Rom and Ross ahead of all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I haven't seen it with Lookman yet. Not anything that says he is Prem quality but he is young and hasn't had much of a chance. Mirallas isn't good enough, people should stop trying to convince themselves that he is. I haven't seen anything from Klaasen to say he is creative. Imo his movement creates chances not his ability on the ball if that makes sense. I think there is more potential in the group of players we have now but as it stands I would have Rom and Ross ahead of all of them. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Everton hold sway in power stakes but Gylfi saga has become ordeal http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/gylfi-sigurdsson-comment-everton-hold-13449907#ICID=ios_EchoNewsApp_AppShare_Click_Other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Ordeal is an understatement. I was really excited when we were first linked, then this ridiculous money discussion and the protracted media bullshit has removed any anticipation or positivity from the whole thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Glimmer of hope for some here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Agreed, understatement. That said, if this article is accurate, and Swansea gives in to the 40m offer, was the ordeal worth it? We get our guy, and can use the 10m to up our offer on a striker or to continue to bolster the youth squad. The thing that gets at me is the way this has been drawn out signals that we aren't ready to spend nearly as large as was previous indicated. If we were, we'd have gotten him in and training with the squad sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 if this article is accurate, and Swansea gives in to the 40m offer Sorry, didn't mean that's what the article says.. I was inferring that if Swansea is feeling pressure to move him they may give in to the lower offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I'm actually glad that we aren't just handing over the money.... absolutely rudiculous fee. Swansea surely must be just trying to keep face now. It Will be an undisclosed fee. rubecula, markjazzbassist and Isaiah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/08/08/evertons-attempts-sign-swansea-citys-gylfi-sigurdsson-could/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I'm actually glad that we aren't just handing over the money.... absolutely rudiculous fee. Swansea surely must be just trying to keep face now. It Will be an undisclosed fee. i'm with you Haf, everyone knew Lukaku was leaving for a ransom and wants to hold us to ransom. No thanks. I like this. They are skint so we drag it out until TDD and they are fucked on transfers. Or accept the lesser fee and get your guys in pronto. Either way we control it, Swansea has no other assets of value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I think this is Swansea trying to force Evertons hand because they're desperate to get it done. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Agreed, understatement. That said, if this article is accurate, and Swansea gives in to the 40m offer, was the ordeal worth it? We get our guy, and can use the 10m to up our offer on a striker or to continue to bolster the youth squad. The thing that gets at me is the way this has been drawn out signals that we aren't ready to spend nearly as large as was previous indicated. If we were, we'd have gotten him in and training with the squad sooner rather than later. Respectfully, I strongly disagree with your assessment. For one, we have bid 40m+ which is considerably more than Everton have ever bid for any player. This alone should prove we are willing to splash the cash. The idea that because we have significantly more money we should just pay whatever clubs want is a bit misguided in my opinion. If we get a reputation for being a club who is weak in negotiation we would regularly be taken advantage of. It can be frustrating to not get a player because of a few million but those millions we save are going to add up and help improve the club in the long run. Almost everyone agrees that Sig is being priced too high so I don't quite get the criticism when our management agrees and tries to get a better deal. Isaiah and aaron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Lanzini instead please ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I'm actually glad that we aren't just handing over the money.... absolutely rudiculous fee. Swansea surely must be just trying to keep face now. It Will be an undisclosed fee. Yep. Not just that though...if we give in, every club will do the same every time we come calling. We cannot meet their demands. rubecula, markjazzbassist and nutmegwolf203 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 It is understood talks have broken down between Everton and Swansea over a deal for Gylfi Sigurdsson. We understand a deal is now in jeopardy after more than five weeks of negotiations. One source has suggested a verbal agreement was reached between the two clubs, only for Everton to withdraw the offer 48 hours later and refer back to a previous offer, understood to be around £40m. Theres now a fear at Goodison Park that soured relations may scupper the process completely, seriously hampering Ronald Koemans and Paul Clements planned transfer dealings over the next three weeks. Sky Sports News understands that the two clubs are less than £5m apart on a fee, with Sigurdssons wages not expected to be a problem. -SSN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 not agreeing wouldn't hamper us at all. we have plenty of money to spend, move on to the next target. it will hamper sell to buy swansea for sure, but not us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) As mentioned earlier this evening, Sky sources understand talks have broken down between Everton and Swansea over a deal for Gylfi Sigurdsson. But another source has since told us the two clubs are still trying to find a resolution and any suggestion the deal is off is nonsense. -SSN Edited August 8, 2017 by AidanLewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 In other words, SSN, and everyone else, know absolutely FUCK ALL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 In other words, SSN, and everyone else, know absolutely FUCK ALL. Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 There is no way the dispute is over £5mil. No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 They'll be disputing the structure of the fee. How much now, how much in add-ons, what those add-ons are etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbeaker Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 who knows maybe they have added yet another 5million to the fee or wanted so silly add ons or even part exchange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 The echo last night said it wasn't true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 The echo last night said it wasn't true. The Echo said Niang was having a medical with us, while in reality he was sunning himself in a different country. rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 I still think this will happen tbh, it's dragged on too long without either side walking away for it not to- the player wants to move he's missed every friendly and their manager wants new players. Be surprised if it doesn't. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 I trust Koeman and if he wants him pay the poxy 5 million extra and get him in so we can move on to getting a striker and our other targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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