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#1 Bafana Blue

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Posted 05 Jul 2006 - 13:26

I can not understand why we seem to be linked with right sided midfield players like Brett Emerton when we have more than enough cover in that position.
Andy Van Der Meyde is naturally suited to playing on the right wing and to write him off after one season is a joke! Was not long ago many of you on this site were unhappy with the performances of Nuno Valente now he is on the verge of playing in a world cup final and looked better then Ashley Cole the other night! We also have Leon Osman who I feel is far more influential on the right of midfield than when he plays in the middle of the park. Arteta is also right footed and has been superb when asked to play outwide. In addition to those 3 both Lee Carsley and Simon Davies have played on the right of midfield in the past.

Compare that abundance of options with the left of midfield where the only naturally left footed option we have is Kilbane. He is far too slow for the premiership and should be used as no more than cover in this position if we are serious about creating more chances for our strikers.

I feel that Moyes should be looking at bringing in either Boa Morte or Van der Vaart to play on the left. Both are top quality players and luckily neither have been given much of an opportunity to shine at the world cup and therefore their price tags will not be inflated.
Add Maniche to one of those two, plus what we already have in the likes of Arteta, Cahill, VDM and our midfield will be one of the strongest in the premiership!
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#2 GoldfishMemory

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Posted 05 Jul 2006 - 13:35

We are not being linked with right sided midfielders as far as i can see!

Brett Emerton is a utility wide player who can play full back or midfield on either the left or right.

You are correct with your assesment that killa is the weak link and we should be looking at replacing him the downside being we proberbly dont have much cash left. The Emerton thing comes from this because he is a relativly cheap player who can play in several positions. I am unsure if its the right move but the cash aint there for either Boa Morte or Van der Vaart IMO.
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#3 Moyski

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Posted 05 Jul 2006 - 13:47

I think Kilbane will spend nearly all season on the bench, if things go ok with VDM, this will; be his last season..
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Posted 05 Jul 2006 - 15:47

agree unless we bring in a LM better than VDM then he will start wich means kilbane on bench :)
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Posted 05 Jul 2006 - 18:12

Maniche? i hope you've brought your cheque book! :lol:
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Posted 05 Jul 2006 - 23:31

no bill found 10 mill down the back of his sofa so we can go after everyone again now
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Posted 06 Jul 2006 - 00:32

I feel that Moyes should be looking at bringing in either Boa Morte or Van der Vaart to play on the left. Both are top quality players and luckily neither have been given much of an opportunity to shine at the world cup and therefore their price tags will not be inflated.
Add Maniche to one of those two, plus what we already have in the likes of Arteta, Cahill, VDM and our midfield will be one of the strongest in the premiership!

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Lets be realistic Van Der Vaart - one of the very top Dutch prospects and Maniche - touted as one of the best players of the tournament by Motson tonight are not going to go to a club who arent in Europe.They are out of our league by some distance at the moment not that we could afford it anyway.
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Posted 06 Jul 2006 - 06:37

I can not understand why we seem to be linked with right sided midfield players like Brett Emerton when we have more than enough cover in that position.
Andy Van Der Meyde is naturally suited to playing on the right wing and to write him off after one season is a joke! Was not long ago many of you on this site were unhappy with the performances of Nuno Valente now he is on the verge of playing in a world cup final and looked better then Ashley Cole the other night! We also have Leon Osman who I feel is far more influential on the right of midfield than when he plays in the middle of the park. Arteta is also right footed and has been superb when asked to play outwide. In addition to those 3 both Lee Carsley and Simon Davies have played on the right of midfield in the past.

Compare that abundance of options with the left of midfield where the only naturally left footed option we have is Kilbane. He is far too slow for the premiership and should be used as no more than cover in this position if we are serious about creating more chances for our strikers.

I feel that Moyes should be looking at bringing in either Boa Morte or Van der Vaart to play on the left. Both are top quality players and luckily neither have been given much of an opportunity to shine at the world cup and therefore their price tags will not be inflated.
Add Maniche to one of those two, plus what we already have in the likes of Arteta, Cahill, VDM and our midfield will be one of the strongest in the premiership!

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:) good to have a large squad, players fighting 4 position in the team,more motovation carnt be bad ;)
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#9 Bafana Blue

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Posted 06 Jul 2006 - 08:08

I stand correted but as far as I can remember Van Der Vaart plays for hamburg and Maniche was at Dynamo Moscow until coming to Chelsea midway through last season. Surely Everton are on a level par with those 2 clubs in the minds of any aspiring footballer. It comes back to the point I have made several time on this site that we need to forget about overpriced average English players and spread our net wider to going after better priced international players.
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#10 Bluetrip

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Posted 07 Jul 2006 - 00:58

I stand correted but as far as I can remember Van Der Vaart plays for hamburg and Maniche was at Dynamo Moscow until coming to Chelsea midway through last season. Surely Everton are on a level par with those 2 clubs in the minds of any aspiring footballer. It comes back to the point I have made several time on this site that we need to forget about overpriced average English players and spread our net wider to going after better priced international players.

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That is a problem for us though, Moyes has little influence in the international transfer market and judging by the some foreign players he has signed not much knowledge either. And you see how Premiership managers generally plunder their own countries for under rated talent, I think we come up short with a Scottish man at the helm.
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#11 Romey 1878

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Posted 07 Jul 2006 - 11:52

That is a problem for us though, Moyes has little influence in the international transfer market and judging by the some foreign players he has signed not much knowledge either. And you see how Premiership managers generally plunder their own countries for under rated talent, I think we come up short with a Scottish man at the helm.

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How many foreign players has he brought in that have been total failures?
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Posted 07 Jul 2006 - 14:55

Matteo Ferrari
Andy van der Meyde
Per Krøldrup
Eddy Bosnar
Li Tie
Ibrahim Said
Brian McBride
Juliano Rodrigo
Li Tie
Li Wei Feng
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#13 StevO

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Posted 07 Jul 2006 - 15:18

i know li tie was crap, but hes not worth twice!
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Posted 07 Jul 2006 - 17:09

Debatable :lol:
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#15 Romey 1878

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Posted 07 Jul 2006 - 18:06

Matteo Ferrari
Andy van der Meyde
Per Krøldrup 
Eddy Bosnar
Li Tie
Ibrahim Said 
Brian McBride
Juliano Rodrigo
Li Tie
Li Wei Feng

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i wouldnt say Ferrari was a failure really
VDM hasnt gone yet so you cant say hes failed
Kroldrup yes
Bosnar, we were told he probably wouldnt play in the first team and he was FREE
Li Tie was good for a season and then DM went off him
Said yes
Mcbride was a decent player for us and it was only a loan
Rodrigo yes
Wei Feng came as part of the Kejian deal and was promptly sent back


So i dont really see your point
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#16 CraccerC

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Posted 07 Jul 2006 - 20:24

1. VDM's best position if left
2. Arteta may have played well there but it isn't his position
3. WHy not stregnthen the squad, osman is nothing special, davies need to improve a lot
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Posted 07 Jul 2006 - 20:47

i disagree with ossie. i think hes a good attacking player. kinda in the joe cole mould but not as good.
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Posted 07 Jul 2006 - 21:57

Most managers have failed in the international market, Wenger, Benethus, Fery even Moriniho and at a greater expense to us that for sure
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Posted 07 Jul 2006 - 21:59

i disagree with ossie. i think hes a good attacking player. kinda in the joe cole mould but not as good.

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joe cole is good, freddy ljungberg is good, damien duff is good i can go on for ever, leon osman is not good, he's decent, he has a few good attributes but he isn't top 6 quality, too lightweight and his final ball is lacking
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Posted 07 Jul 2006 - 22:16

My point was Moyes transfer record is questionable. He has made some good signings, he's also made some bad. The players I listed were all failures to some degree or another. The Kroldrup fiasco was a defining point, to lose millions on a player and send him back within the same season is poor judgement and it cost us. Van der Meyde has so far been a major failure there's no two ways about it. You have actually agreed with three of the players I've listed so how can you say you dont see the point. Moyes had little to no pulling power in the European transfer market which leaves us paying top dollar for home grown market.
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Posted 07 Jul 2006 - 22:52

Maniche? i hope you've brought your cheque book! :lol:

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Maniche is a free agent
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Posted 08 Jul 2006 - 04:58

Maniche is a free agent

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:( think he wants to much in wages tbo, good player with a cracking shot though B)
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Posted 10 Jul 2006 - 13:05

he'll be playing champions league next season
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Posted 10 Jul 2006 - 21:14

Yea, watched him at the world cup and hes got a awsome shit, like steve said will be playin CL next season
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Posted 10 Jul 2006 - 21:19

hahahah an awesome shit? well i for one wouldnt know
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#26 StevO

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Posted 10 Jul 2006 - 22:45

i know very little about his shitting habbits!
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#27 Romey 1878

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Posted 10 Jul 2006 - 23:28

i thought shit was poo on here? Has the filter been removed?
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