Hafnia Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Ffs, can we have 1 thread that doesn't descend into bickering?! Not bickering Matt. If someone is going to make strong accusations to one forum poster for one activity and then not make the same to others who are doing the same then they better either make everything equal or apologise. Not having it. Shit house behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Not bickering Matt. If someone is going to make strong accusations to one forum poster for one activity and then not make the same to others who are doing the same then they better either make everything equal or apologise. Not having it. Shit house behaviour. if you're "not having it", take it to PM. Don't make the rest of us have to put up with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 if you're "not having it", take it to PM. Don't make the rest of us have to put up with it. I've said my bit. And it's not just for my sake either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 http://www.theweek.co.uk/77649/max-spiers-was-conspiracy-theorist-poisoned-by-satanists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 how about this one .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuZHxZJZJ_Q once again its very strange that nobody has been brought up for it, theres loads of similar videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MikeO Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 You need to join gullibles anonymous Bill . Avoid watching these vids one day at a time, it's the only way. Chach and holystove 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Heard one saying Avril Lavigne died in early 2000s too... Bruce Lee and Elvis are still alive apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Paul mcCartney died before any of the other Beatles, the man masquerading as him is a double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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markjazzbassist Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Paul mcCartney died before any of the other Beatles, the man masquerading as him is a double. sings and plays all those instruments just as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) Not a conspiracy movie per se, but lots of conspiring within, Adam Curtis new doco HyperNormalisation. A narrative on the events that have brought us the destabilisation of the middle east and islamic terrorism and highlights complexities of non-diplomatic interventions in the affairs of other countries in our "post-truth world" Its on BBC iview but if you're outside the UK it's still pretty easy to find online, fascinating stuff. Edited October 22, 2016 by Chach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Its on BBC iview but if you're outside the UK it's still pretty easy to find online, fascinating stuff. Downloaded that off the iplayer yesterday, nearly three hours long though so need to find a big window to watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 There are a couple of really interesting swedish conspiracies, the classic being the murder of the swedish PM Olof Palme. Still unsolved and has plenty of different theories. The most interesting being the south africans and the swedish police force. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/who-killed-swedish-pm-olof-palme-five-best-conspiracy-theories-1438035 New "evidence" have surfaced recently, witnesses and photos place Eugene de Kock in Sweden around the time of the murder, he is interesting because he has always claimed that South Africa were involved in the assassination but he has said that Craig Williamson was the one that killed Palme. (shift blame?) I still think that Christer Pettersson was the killer.The other long running conspiracy in Sweden is that the cruise ship Estonia was sunk on purpose, killing 852 people. https://www.facts-are-facts.com/article/ill-fated-estonia-ferry-used-for-weapons-transfers Dont believe that for a second tho.I can think of plenty of conspiracy theories that were not american. So I dont think that its an american thing but none the less, I dont believe any of them.The only one that raises my eyebrow is the JFK assassination. All others mentioned in here are bah humbug. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/privacy-and-security "In this episode of the Waking Up podcast, Sam Harris speaks with General Michael V. Hayden about the reality of spying, the difference between the NSA and the CIA, the ethics of secrecy, Edward Snowden, the Russian Hacking of the 2016 US Presidential election, and other topics." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 First off, let me say my heart goes out to anybody involved in the London tower block fire. Top ten stories completely burnt out, burning for 24 hours but still standing. 9/11 Both tower blocks top floors on fire and both the buildings collapse after only 2 hours.!! Anybody still think there's nothing dodgy about the whole thing.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 First off, let me say my heart goes out to anybody involved in the London tower block fire. Top ten stories completely burnt out, burning for 24 hours but still standing. 9/11 Both tower blocks top floors on fire and both the buildings collapse after only 2 hours.!! Anybody still think there's nothing dodgy about the whole thing.? Different types of building, read this: http://ws680.nist.gov/publication/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=861610 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 The commission was told what to put into the report, these towers were the strongest buildings in the US. A network of solid re-enforced steel girders, covered with re-enforced concrete, probably ten times stronger than the London tower block and they collapsed in two hours. As did five other buildings in the 9/11 area untouched by any fire. I think that is very dodgy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 slightly different when a plane slams into the buildings at 500mph like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) The commission was told what to put into the report, these towers were the strongest buildings in the US. A network of solid re-enforced steel girders, covered with re-enforced concrete, probably ten times stronger than the London tower block and they collapsed in two hours. As did five other buildings in the 9/11 area untouched by any fire. I think that is very dodgy. Thats an awful lot of Doctors conspiring with their own government to murder their own citizens to give them a reason to do something they could do anyway but didn't want to. Edited June 15, 2017 by Chach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) slightly different when a plane slams into the buildings at 500mph like. You need to go on YouTube and search out some videos, there were no planes Involved. The plane which was supposed to have slammed into the tower was photo shopped and all the big news agencies in the states had all been issued with the same video newsreel. The said plane has since been seen in another airport by a pilot who used to fly it, he recognised the plane number. The numbered flight that was supposedly highjacked didn't fly from any airport that day because there was no such flight number. There was no bodies or plane debris in any of the supposed crash sites, the pentagon, the field in the country, or the tower blocks. One who was called to the crash site in the field said... "Today I stopped being a pathologist because when I arrived, there were no bodies, not one" Just a hole in the floor with a bit of rubbish in it. Too many have come up with different views of what happened and blamed people in the government, even the president, but none of them have ever been charged with anything, but there have been some deaths in very strange circumstances. But that's another story. Edited June 15, 2017 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 You need to go on YouTube and search out some videos, there were no planes Involved. The plane which was supposed to have slammed into the tower was photo shopped and all the big news agencies in the states had all been issued with the same video newsreel. The said plane has since been seen in another airport by a pilot who used to fly it, he recognised the plane number. The numbered flight that was supposedly highjacked didn't fly from any airport that day because there was no such flight number. There was no bodies or plane debris in any of the supposed crash sites, the pentagon, the field in the country, or the tower blocks. One who was called to the crash site in the field said... "Today I stopped being a pathologist because when I arrived, there were no bodies, not one" Just a hole in the floor with a bit of rubbish in it. Too many have come up with different views of what happened and blamed people in the government, even the president, but none of them have ever been charged with anything, but there have been some deaths in very strange circumstances. But that's another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 I wanted to write something. I couldn't. I'm laughing to much. Literally belly laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Bill ive seen a lot of the conspiracy videos and I quite agree about the other buildings mysteriously falling but those planes was defiantly not photoshopped, they defo crashed into those towers. I don't find this is the time to be comparing the two incidents of NY and London right now when the rescue stage isn't even over for the burning tower block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Just type into YouTube 9/11 no planes. One video shows the building exploding with no plane in site, then the same view with the plane supposedly hitting the tower and causing the explosion. Don't believe me, go have a look for yourself and give me your view. The London tower, burning continually for 24 hours from top to bottom and still standing. Controlled explosions brought down the twin towers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Link? I'll debunk it all after I've seen it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 I can handle people saying 9/11 is a hoax and that "someone" blew up the buildings ... but no planes? That's just absurd. There's so much on-the-ground footage uploaded by normal people (not the government, news agencies, etc.) on Youtube as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 I can handle people saying 9/11 is a hoax and that "someone" blew up the buildings ... but no planes? That's just absurd. There's so much on-the-ground footage uploaded by normal people (not the government, news agencies, etc.) on Youtube as well. The controlled explosions actually makes sense to me, would save a lot of lives by preventing such a tall building from collapsing on hundreds of thousands of people. The idea of no planes is complete and utter horseshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 The controlled explosions actually makes sense to me, would save a lot of lives by preventing such a tall building from collapsing on hundreds of thousands of people. The idea of no planes is complete and utter horseshit. I guess the thousands of people living in NYC who saw it are part of the government conspiracy too. Just scratching my head here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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