Paddock Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 This is REALLY close to home. I knew a lot of people who went to that concert- thankfully all are safe. It's only a matter of time before this happens in a football match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Stop the fucking world, I want to get off. badaids 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Beyond imagination isn't it. "Soldiers" killing each other you can get even though you wish it didn't happen. But kids at a concert? What kind of sick mind thinks that up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Beyond imagination isn't it. "Soldiers" killing each other you can get even though you wish it didn't happen. But kids at a concert? What kind of sick mind thinks that up? I can't get my head around killing people because of a belief or a religion. If you really are "in the right" then you'll get the last laugh when your life comes to a natural end because you'll go to whatever your heaven is, while the rest will suffer. Why can't that be enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 I can't get my head around killing people because of a belief or a religion. If you really are "in the right" then you'll get the last laugh when your life comes to a natural end because you'll go to whatever your heaven is, while the rest will suffer. Why can't that be enough? Problem is some believe if they kill "non-believers", their reward in whatever their heaven is, will be greater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Cant get my head around it, targeting children. Horrible world we live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 I've just bought tickets to see the wrestling for my boys for that arena. I feel physically sick now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Very grey in Manchester today. Horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Problem is some believe if they kill "non-believers", their reward in whatever their heaven is, will be greater. I know, but they're killing people for a fucking fairytale. We're supposed to stop believing in those when we're kids! MikeO and holystove 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Why do this? It makes no sense whatsoever children and their parents wtf?? What have they done to offend a religion?? Can't get my head around what's going on in the world it's seems to me religion is just an excuse for horrible people to justify doing horrible things. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Far too many racists on social media using this to support their bile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 It's drummed into them from an early age- they are brain washed. They do things like this for exposure. I hate the world we live in- it ripped me in half watching my 2 boys walking in to school this morning. I wanted to keep them home with me. Stupid I know but that's how I felt. Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Arndale incident happening now. It's not in the name of religion at all. It's a cover for sick people who want to harm others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 I hate the world we live in- it ripped me in half watching my 2 boys walking in to school this morning. I wanted to keep them home with me. Stupid I know but that's how I felt. Not stupid at all. It's the reaction of any parent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Far too many racists on social media using this to support their bile. And unfortunately, it'll create more of 'them' (both terrorists and racists). Basically, their long term plan is working... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Arndale back open now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) So sad to hear about this. Will this shit ever stop? People are just trying to have a good time and enjoy life while some deluded idiot tries to pressure their miserable existence on them. Edited May 23, 2017 by TonkaRoost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 And unfortunately, it'll create more of 'them' (both terrorists and racists). Basically, their long term plan is working... That's the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Targeting a concert where it is obviously going to be packed with little girls and their parents, I can't get my head around that. Coward, fucking coward! And he's got an easy way out killing himself. Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 It's drummed into them from an early age- they are brain washed. They do things like this for exposure. I hate the world we live in- it ripped me in half watching my 2 boys walking in to school this morning. I wanted to keep them home with me. Stupid I know but that's how I felt. Totally get this... I love my children much more than life itself. The thought of anything happening to them is incomprehensible. We live in a crazy world. Cruel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) Not a racist myself but surely a vetting system on immigrants would lessen the impact these maniacs can have? I know a lot are 'home grown' sad to say, but many are not. Edited May 23, 2017 by Rubecula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Not a racist myself but surely a vetting system on immigrants would lessen the impact these maniacs can have? I know a lot are 'home grown' sad to say, but many are not. They are Rubes, look at Lee Rigby's killers, the parliament building attacker... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 major armed police presence in Fallowfield in Manchester right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 major armed police presence in Fallowfield in Manchester right now. Probably someone who they had been watching. Normally the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Totally get this... I love my children much more than life itself. The thought of anything happening to them is incomprehensible. We live in a crazy world. Cruel. The thought of it absolutely terrifies me. I'm so over protective over my 2 it's borderline ridiculous but I just can't help it. Nothing and I mean nothing gets in the way of how much I love them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Living amongst us those who don't share our values and want nothing but carnage until their ideology is mainstream. Those that defend them are the problem. I feel sick knowing that this could have been me and my family. Rasicm, bigotry? No common sense this is one religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 Living amongst us those who don't share our values and want nothing but carnage until their ideology is mainstream. Those that defend them are the problem. I feel sick knowing that this could have been me and my family. Rasicm, bigotry? No common sense this is one religion. So what are you suggesting? That we should treat all Muslims as terrorists? By that logic all Catholics would've been treated as murderers when the IRA was active. Seriously, what action does your common sense propose we take? Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 You can't blame a whole faith. However- I would treat anyone preaching this vile hate in the streets as treason and hang every one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 You can't blame a whole faith. THIS!!!! So much hate about right now. If we blamed a whole faith then Christianity would be condemned also. Not all Muslims are terrorists, not all terrorists are Muslims... MikeO and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 THIS!!!! So much hate about right now. If we blamed a whole faith then Christianity would be condemned also. Not all Muslims are terrorists, not all terrorists are Muslims... They don't discriminate who they murder- they murder their own. They are not religeous people they ise religeon to wage a war of terror and hide behind it's cloak. We should not llow these hate preachers on our streets, it doesn't happen elsewhere, it's treason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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