Certain points i agree and disagree with.
1st you dont need good football players in the middle of the park, I'd swap Arteta for Barton or Nolan anytime.
The last time we had good attacking football played was in the 80s, when we had a couple of hard working ball winners in the middle Bracewell and Reid, Their job was to stop the oppo midfield, win the ball, and give it to the players who could play, (Steven and Sheedy) down the wings and into the penalty area, its an easy game really.
2nd there is a distinct shortage of english players with skill enough to play on the wings, but if we spend money in the summer it has to be on wingers from home or abroad, that is where we, and a lot of other teams are failing,
The game plan and the tactics have been changed so much over the years away from the English Game, so we are now trying to accomodate foreign players, and competing against continental teams to a continental system which is completely foreign to our English players, lets return to the English way of playing.
Manure had Giggs & Beckham wide with Keane and Scholes in the mid, Chelsea Have had Duff and Robben with a couple of ball winners in the mid, Arsenal had Henry with Vierra and that little blond pigtailed fella who's name escapes me, in the mid.
Wingers will win you Titles and trophy's, but the system you play has to be the right one, DM does'nt seem to have any system at all, he just wants hard workers all over the pitch. We might not get rolled over by many teams, but at the same time we are never going to win anything, and its bloody awfull to watch.
Not really against DM because we are a bit more stable now than we where, but imo i dont think he.s the man to take us any further.
As apposed to where?
Do agree with a lot there Licker, but we did play some good football a few times during the 1995 season
But we had some good wingers then. And as you said (I read between the lines) that wingers are not the only solution. We need to get a right system and set up off players.
I don't think Moyes is capable of that but I'm more than happy to eat my words if he does. He is young and still learning though.
Still not joining the Wagon though as I'd like to see him try and we owe him that much for the joy (we have had some) and the expectations which he has raised. Hes done a good job and I'd like to see him move us on from where we are now.