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#1 graham1248

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Posted 19 Jul 2007 - 22:02

howard
jagielka right back
yobo
lescott
neville left back
arteta right
silva
cahill
vdm left if fit
beattie
johnson

this is if silva is any good
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#2 Blue 250

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Posted 19 Jul 2007 - 22:14

howard
jagielka right back
yobo
lescott
neville left back
arteta right
silva
cahill
vdm left if fit
beattie
johnson

this is if silva is any good

Two goals for Beattie in the opening couple of games could be the making of him
at Everton.I think an"in form"Beattie and AJ are good enough to hold at bay the young
guns of Vaughan and Anichebe......but they will make a break through this season.

VDM?......Even if fit,can't really see it working for him.

Hibbert!.....Disaster last season.At his best too good to leave out.Could well improve as he gets older.

Think we need more steel in midfield....Carsley,could well be that man.
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Posted 19 Jul 2007 - 22:22

what about silva have u seen anything of him heard hes a big lad and likes to tackle
i like hibbert but gets booked a lot

Edited by graham1248, 19 Jul 2007 - 22:23.

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#4 Everton_Worshiper

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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 08:03

I think an"in form"Beattie and AJ are good enough to hold at bay the young
guns of Vaughan and Anichebe......but they will make a break through this season.


Don't quite agree with this, Vaughan is too hot a prospect to leave on the bench.


VDM?......Even if fit,can't really see it working for him.


lol agree with this one, only playing cause no one will buy him...
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#5 Rob W

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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 09:23

right now the only change would be Jags coming in for either Hibbo or Stubbs I think, midfield will be the same, Carsley will keep his place and rightly so
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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 09:27

QUOTE(Blue 250 @ Jul 19 2007, 11:14 PM)
I think an"in form"Beattie and AJ are good enough to hold at bay the young
guns of Vaughan and Anichebe......but they will make a break through this season.


Don't quite agree with this, Vaughan is too hot a prospect to leave on the bench.


Only a very much improved Beattie will be able to keep Vaughan out.It's in Beatties
hands now!Moyes will play him......if he scores he'll stay in,if not we have options.


Shame about VDM!.....But you could say that about any of them that don't make it.
Probably get the odd game,might even surprise us.....just doubt it!

As for Silva,from what I've heard he's got a chance....and we probably need him to
take it!
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#7 StevO

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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 13:07

against preston silva was pretty average, against a lower league team, as was beattie and anichebe.
i'll be disappointed if any of that 3 start against wigan
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#8 Jackelz

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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 13:49

------------------Howard----------------------
--Nevile----Lesscot----Yobo----Valente-------
------------------Jagielka---------------------
--Arteta---------------------------Pienaar-----
-----------------Cahill---------------------------
----------------------Johnson------------------
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#9 Blue4Ever

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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 14:00

------------------Howard----------------------
--Nevile----Lesscot----Yobo----Valente-------
------------------Jagielka---------------------
--Arteta---------------------------Pienaar-----
-----------------Cahill---------------------------
----------------------Johnson------------------


Only 10 players there

Id like to say pienaar would be in the team but it might not happen.
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#10 Everton_Worshiper

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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 14:13

------------------Howard----------------------

--Jagielka----Lesscot----Yobo----Nevile-----

------------------Carsley----------------------

--Arteta---------------------------Pienaar-----

--------------------Cahill-----------------------

----------Anchiebe----Johnson----------------
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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 14:56

Some strange ones there id go with what JACKELZ put down

Worshiper---- you have some strange ones in there

Jagielka Carsley and nevile at left back???????????????

You think Carsley is good enough to get a start????????????????

Jagielka is gonna start in the middle

You must be great on CM
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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 14:57

if we were to get pienaar ... i doubt he'd play left as he's mainly center but right if anything

Edited by CraccerC, 20 Jul 2007 - 14:57.

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#13 Everton_Worshiper

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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 14:59

You must be great on CM


How can I put this nicely.....ITS A GAME. Phew, rant over.
Oh and nice to see you judge without posting up your Championship Manager team... :lol:
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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 15:05

You think Carsley is good enough to get a start????????????????


He was almost an ever present in last years very good season, doing the donkey work

He also did it when we were fourth as well

------------------Howard----------------------

--Jagielka----Lesscot----Yobo----Valente---


--Arteta-----Carsley- Neville----Pienaar----

--------------------Cahill----------------------

------------------Johnson---------------------
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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 15:15

Thing is we have a better quality player to do that donkey work now.......
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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 15:19

Thing is we have a better quality player to do that donkey work now.......


Like Who? I think Carsley will be, as he was last season, one of the first names on the team sheet
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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 15:21

IMO carsley will play in the league, but not in europe
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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 15:36

[quote name='Zed' date='Jul 20 2007, 4:05 PM' post='91368']
He was almost an ever present in last years very good season, doing the donkey work

He also did it when we were fourth as well

------------------Howard----------------------

--Jagielka----Lesscot----Yobo----Valente---
--Arteta-----Carsley- Neville----Pienaar----

--------------------Cahill----------------------

------------------Johnson---------------------

Would have to agree with you Zed , Carsley has been imense for us in 2 of the last 3 seasons and was sorely missed in the season in between when he was out injured almost all seaon !! And believe me you will never meet a more dedicated pro , i live in the same village as lee Carsley near Coventry and often see him jogging in the evening no doubt after he's trained during the day! ..... he may be getting on a bit now but for me he would have to start the season , if he struggles then change it as the season goes on !!

As for the team it looks good it will be nice to see how affective Arteta and Pienaar can be switching flanks and keeping the opposition full backs guessing !

As i've said on a previous topic i would prefer a 4-4-2 but i admit it is unlikely so playin Timmy behind AJ has got to be the way forward , i think i would rather see someone else along side Carsley instead of Neville though !! (please get Manny back Mr Moyes)
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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 15:56

------------------Howard----------------------

--Jagielka----Lesscot----Yobo----Valente---
--Arteta-----Cahill- Neville----Pienaar----
------------Johnson-----Anichebe----------------


i honestly think that going it to the first game of the season against an average wigan side that we are talkin about playin 5 in midfield is a joke!

we should be positive they should be having to come to are place thinking of needing to play the 5 in midfield to stop are men.

i think with neville back in the middle with a fully fit cahill. with also AJ's willingness to run and check back we should be able to cover for the extra man when we need it in the midfield.

plus with pienaar and arteta they are both able to play central aswell which means we can cover and hit on the break. with pace and power. and once up there you can see neville sitting and letting the other 3 men go and join in.
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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 16:01

im with zed 100%. Cars is a valuable member of our team, one of our most consistent performers!

and looks like we got another member with a 451 in negative attitude!
i dont understand how anyone can see victor being a bigger attacking threat than cahill.
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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 19:42

im with zed 100%. Cars is a valuable member of our team, one of our most consistent performers!

and looks like we got another member with a 451 in negative attitude!
i dont understand how anyone can see victor being a bigger attacking threat than cahill.



That 4-5-1 formation gets the best out of everyone, Cahill is awsome in that role, it can easily be changed to 4-4-2, keeping Cahill on, he then just trys to be selective in going forward, its a formation that Chelsea use effectively and also man used it last season a lot, although they have a lot better attacking players
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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 20:24

yeh, i don't mind 4-5-1 as long as we use it to our advantage both attacking and defensively...because long balls towards AJ won't work. we need to take advantage of the extra man in midfield (assuming we're playing against a 4-4-2) and play it around a bit more crisply than we have. hopefully with the new additions and future addition will add that extra bit of ability that the midfield desperately lacks,as only arteta is capable of keeping a ball.
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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 21:13

--------------------Howard---------------------
----Jagielka----Yobo----Lescott----Valente----
----Piennar----Arteta----Carsley----VDM----
----------------------Cahill-----------------------
----------------------Jonson---------------------

Edited by Adams, 20 Jul 2007 - 21:15.

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#24 Blue4Ever

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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 21:23

lol, wouldnt go with Arteta in the middle, he has proven to be out best player on the wing, before that I didnt think he was as good.
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Posted 20 Jul 2007 - 21:27

He was almost an ever present in last years very good season, doing the donkey work

He also did it when we were fourth as well

------------------Howard----------------------

--Jagielka----Lesscot----Yobo----Valente---
--Arteta-----Carsley- Neville----Pienaar----

--------------------Cahill----------------------

------------------Johnson---------------------


I couldnt watch another game with Neville + Carsley in the team, we need to move on if were going to use a defensive midfielder which I can understand we need to pick one of them.

Haha Pienaar hasnt got a work permit yet and he is in everyones team, hope he does tho...

Edited by Blue4Ever, 20 Jul 2007 - 21:28.

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Posted 21 Jul 2007 - 07:50

Can't believe no-one's even mentioned (as far as I can see) McFadden, who's goal against Charlton got us into the position we're in. If he hadn't scored that winner we'd be even more miserable bastards than we already are contemplating a season of domestic mediocrity and struggling (even more than we are) to attract any new players. Also Ossie, who I know people don't rate but for me was a consistent performer (player of the year voting backs that up) and still improving.

What about a bit of loyalty to the players who got us where we're at?
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Posted 21 Jul 2007 - 09:56

Can't believe no-one's even mentioned (as far as I can see) McFadden, who's goal against Charlton got us into the position we're in. If he hadn't scored that winner we'd be even more miserable bastards than we already are contemplating a season of domestic mediocrity and struggling (even more than we are) to attract any new players. Also Ossie, who I know people don't rate but for me was a consistent performer (player of the year voting backs that up) and still improving.

What about a bit of loyalty to the players who got us where we're at?

I understand what your saying but i think we should always play are best possible starting 11. And IMO Ossie and Mcfadden dont fit into my "best starting 11"
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Posted 21 Jul 2007 - 12:04

edit to my first crap post were i done a 10 man team :lol:

------------------Howard----------------------
--Hibbert----Lesscot----Yobo----Valente-------
-----------------Nevile----------------------
--Arteta------------Jagielka---------Pienaar-----
-----------------Cahill---------------------------
----------------------Johnson------------------

thats better i wont do subs cus i dont really care :D
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Posted 22 Jul 2007 - 10:34

------------------Howard----------------------

--Neville----Jagielka----Yobo----Lescott---

--Arteta-----Cahill---Pienaar----VDM----

------------Johnson-----Beattie*----------------

*Swap if we sign Smith
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Posted 22 Jul 2007 - 11:21

------------------------------------howard--------------------------------------- jags------------------yobo---------------------lescott------------------valente pienaar-------------cahill----------------------da silva------------------arteta jo------------------------------johnson---------smith-----------------------------
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Posted 22 Jul 2007 - 13:01

------------------------------------howard--------------------------------------- jags------------------yobo---------------------lescott------------------valente pienaar-------------cahill----------------------da silva------------------arteta jo------------------------------johnson---------smith-----------------------------


y pienaar at right back he is a holding midfielder.
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Posted 22 Jul 2007 - 15:23

he isn't a holding midfielder he's attacking / right sided...but if u notice hes nt at rb in his team he just hasnt returned
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Posted 22 Jul 2007 - 19:00

-----------------Howard---------------------

Neville-------Yobo*-------Lescott-----Velente

Pienaar-----Carsley*-----Cahill-------Arteta

-------------Johnson----Vaughan*----------


This would be my first choice with the team we have now, apart from Pienaar we are waiting on a permit.

I suspect that Yobo will be replaced by Jagielka when Yobo goes off to compete for the African nations, but I fully expect Jags to be knocking on the door all season.

If we get this Vogel character, he may replace Carsley- or atleast offer competition.

Vaugan would be my choice striker, but he is obviously injured- so McFadden, Anichebe and Beattie will be fighting for his place.
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Posted 23 Jul 2007 - 12:58

he isn't a holding midfielder he's attacking / right sided...but if u notice hes nt at rb in his team he just hasnt returned


o yea i just noticed, i thought he was meaning either valente or pienaar to be a right back. LOL

he just didnt put the spaces in lol
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#35 Jackelz

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Posted 28 Jul 2007 - 17:48

------------------Howard----------------------
--Nevile(cap)----Lesscot----Yobo----Baines---------
----------------Jagielka----------------------
--Arteta-------------Cahill---------Pienaar---
---------------smith--------Johnson-----------

sorted ;)
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Posted 28 Jul 2007 - 18:02

------------------Howard----------------------
--Nevile(cap)----Lesscot----Yobo----Baines---------
----------------Jagielka----------------------
--Arteta-------------Cahill---------Pienaar---
---------------smith--------Johnson-----------

sorted ;)



Swap Neville and Jags with eachother, and Arteta and Pienaar alternating and that would be my team until Vaughan came back.
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Posted 28 Jul 2007 - 21:09

Isn't this the whole point behind this thread, that we now have a little more flexibilty with with the signing of Jags. We can now afford to play Pip and Jags in more or less any position we see fit, and we know that they can do it, got to be a plus in my book.

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Posted 28 Jul 2007 - 21:16

yeh...im a fan of buying versatile players, that way the fact that you have a small squad isn't so hurtful when people can fill in for oneanother
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Posted 28 Jul 2007 - 21:21

Still got a tiny squad ain't we Mike, offering Cars and £4m for Baines, I thought the aim of the game was to increase our squad. Mark reminds us often enough.

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Posted 28 Jul 2007 - 21:34

To play Bremen my team would be :

---------------------Howard------------------------

--Hibbert------Yobo-------Jagielka------Lescott--

---------------------Carsley-----------------------

--Arteta-----Da Silva-------Cahill------Pienaar--

---------------------Johnson-----------------------

Or This if we want 4 4 2

---------------------Howard---------------------

Jagielka-----Yobo-----------Lescott----Valente

Arteta------Da Silva-------Cahill-------Pienaar

------------Johnson---------Anichebe----------


We need a leftback so untill we get one id play Lescott where he's proved he can play class.

Da Silva deserves a chance the way he's done so far.

Carsley has been immense the last 5 years and should keep his place in 4-5-1

Pienaar will be like a fernandes on the wing imo but less class of course.
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