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#1 L_Blue

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Posted 12 Jan 2006 - 11:27

Not been happy with him this season. When he came here I was under the impression that he was a RIGHT SIDED midfielder. However on all the occasions I have seen him supposedly playing on the right he drifts infield and offers us no width on the right. Obv Mr Moyes has noticed this too since he has taken up putting him in the middle and putting (in my opinion) our best central midfielder Arteta out on the right. Is there not some way that Moyes can make him stay on the right when he is played there cos I think he is a player with some quality I just don't know how or when we can see it. What do other people reckon should we play Osman and drop him till he learns to play in the position that I thought he was bought to fill? Does anyone remember if he did this a lot at Tottenham or for Wales?
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Posted 12 Jan 2006 - 11:34

YEAH, Although i think Davies is a good player, he has'nt shown us his best yet, and at the mo its a toss up between him and ossie, always seem to look better going forward when ossies on the pitch, maybe play him up front with Beattie, He'smuch better than McFadd. imo.
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Posted 12 Jan 2006 - 12:04

Leon every time for me
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Posted 12 Jan 2006 - 13:14

I havent thought much of him when he signed tbh,and he's proved me right so far..

Nothing to wright home about.
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Posted 12 Jan 2006 - 13:21

I havent thought much of him when he signed tbh,and he's proved me right so far..

Nothing to wright home about.

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No - I have been disappointed with him - thought that he was much better - considering that only a season ago the RS where interested in him...

It might just be a settling in thing or confidence - I think that he has a lot more to offer - but not sure he will be allowed the time to prove his salt to the fans and management...

heres hoping that Fozzie's early prediction is wrong, however I doubt it!
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Posted 12 Jan 2006 - 13:47

I have thought that Davies has looked a lot better of late than the first few months at the club. But his own admission he does take a while to settle in to new surroundings .

I think I have said before, that his not an out and out winger anyhow, more a right sided midfeilder.

I actually think Davies is a good player, who is not yet on top of his game for Everton. He isn't a eye catching type player I will agree, but does a good job for the team. He is one player who in my opinion is suffering because of the general nervouness the team has suffered overall this season.


Verdict - Not bad, but not great - more to come from him I am sure.
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Posted 12 Jan 2006 - 14:14

Maybe.... but as I have said I am just peeved at his refusal to stay on the right hand side I understand that he isn't a winger but I would argue that Ossie who isnt even really a right midfield player does a better job of staying on the right and not wandering off
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Posted 12 Jan 2006 - 15:14

Maybe.... but as I have said I am just peeved at his refusal to stay on the right hand side I understand that he isn't a winger but I would argue that Ossie who isnt even really a right midfield player does a better job of staying on the right and not wandering off

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I rate Osman. Davies isn't for me i'm afraid - I can't see how his style of play fits with the rest of the team and it showed when he was missing against Charlton.

the midfield was much more organised and solid without him - nobody wandered out of position.

the guy needs to be taught how to play in position and zonal mark!
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Posted 12 Jan 2006 - 20:11

I rate Osman. Davies isn't for me i'm afraid - I can't see how his style of play fits with the rest of the team and it showed when he was missing against Charlton.

the midfield was much more organised and solid without him - nobody wandered out of position.

the guy needs to be taught how to play in position and zonal mark!

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It may take him more time to settle because he's welsh ;)

Can't think of any other reason,other than he's shite.

Ossie is a good player who perhaps doesnt get the recontion he deseveres.
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Posted 12 Jan 2006 - 22:41

Any 1 think Moyes doesnt really rate Leon?

A cple of seasons back We were demanding he get his chancce for ages before he actually did. Almost reluctantly, He got it, did well...& now appears to have fallen in the pecking order.

Moyes even bought a new right sided player ( hence this discussion) but yet many are to be convinced the new boy offers more than leon.

Leon, gets wide, gets forward, & makes clever runs.

Davies seems to get dreawn inside ( or is told to by the manager) trax back ok, & does get in to the work..but didnt we buy him 4 his so called. creative abilities, crosses & wide running...Weird..Fuzzy Logic.
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 10:00

what do people think about simon davies prospects this season?

He has looked lively in pre-season and played really well for Wales in their freindly last night.

I think that we should see a real improvement from last season, even though he was blighted by injuries.

thoughts?
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 10:05

If he stays fit and regains his confidence then I think the prospects look good. Confidence is vital though as his performances last season cant have helped. Moyes is also going to have to play him in his correct position
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 10:37

I hope he does well but if his position is right mid he needs to stop drifting inside all the time, if its centre mid he needs to be more creative.

Where do you play simon? :unsure:
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 10:51

playing him in CM could work well for him. if he can stay on the right he might be useful there. i hope he does the buisiness because he was quite good for spurs
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 11:15

I was always under the impression that he was an out an out winger?

When he was at spurs I thought he looked the business, comparisons to Ryan Giggs were getting made and not just because of the stupid hair and the welsh background.

I thought it was a good signing by Moyes and was looking forward to seeing a pacey winger who was not scared of running at the fullbacks....I was disapointed.

He did not deliver at all in his first season, I can't recall any flashes of the Simon Davies I admired whilst he was at spurs. He never looked to run at anyone, put his foot in or cross the ball.

From all acounts he has had a good pre season, I hope he can start to perform the way I thought he could. I would have him on the wing IMO, he doesn't look strong enough to play in the central role, if he does play there and plays well then I will be happy to say I'm wrong. He NEEDS to improve this season or I think it will have to be curtains for curley head.
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 11:49

Yeah, i think he will keep Osman out of the team this season, he will improve.
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 12:29

I was a happy fella when we bought Davies, I even got him on the back of my home shirt, so I was very disappointed when he had a shite season. I think if Moyes perseveres with him on the right it will pay off, and it also mean we can play Mikel in his best position - centre mid
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 15:51

I think Simon is going to hit form this season

He has had a great pre season and has looked sharp and skillfull, if he gets his chance i think hes gona shine
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 15:57

i was realyl excited when we signed davies, i jsut hope moyes stops playing him in the middle, it's a fuckin joke
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 16:58

hope he performs this season. look really good in the athletic bilabo match, was disapointed when he was subbed.
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 17:48

Does our formation have the flexibility to offer Davies a "free role" or is he even capable of providing that option?.

I want to see him come good, a bit of freedom may well be the key.

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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 17:55

^ i think he should play right, if any1 has a free role i'd probably give it to cahill (i think arteta would be better at it) but restricting chaill takes away his value a lot more than it owuld arteta...
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 18:49

He played well for Wales last nite aswell
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 20:10

You don't become a bad player overnight, some peoples comments on kipper and here have been pathetic.
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 21:08

You don't become a bad player overnight, some peoples comments on kipper and here have been pathetic.

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Agreed
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 21:32

If you are paid a lotr of money by a club you should perform, surely that is simple?. I like him, but has he been given a decent run in the team in the position he feels best in?.

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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 22:27

I was a happy fella when we bought Davies, I even got him on the back of my home shirt, so I was very disappointed when he had a shite season.

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how do you think i felt?i had kroldrup on the back of mine :( apart from that, davies seems to have improved over pre season but id rather have VDM on there once hes sorted himself out
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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 22:29

how do you think i felt?i had kroldrup on the back of mine :( apart from that, davies seems to have improved over pre season but id rather have VDM on there once hes sorted himself out

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:lol:

I can no longer feel bad, that award can go to you
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#29 Andy

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Posted 16 Aug 2006 - 22:36

i feel no pain, i bought this seasons but left it blank!
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Posted 17 Aug 2006 - 04:11

Still hoping that Davies comes good and as a winger not a centre mid. Much prefer to see Arteta pulling the strings in the middle of the park with Davies, Ossie or VDM out wide (not kilbane!!). He used to be quality all he needs is a good run of games to build his confidence up, just seemed to be very inconsistent last season.
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Posted 17 Aug 2006 - 12:15

Still hoping that Davies comes good and as a winger not a centre mid. Much prefer to see Arteta pulling the strings in the middle of the park with Davies, Ossie or VDM out wide (not kilbane!!). He used to be quality all he needs is a good run of games to build his confidence up, just seemed to be very inconsistent last season.

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:( think he had a lot of injurys last term lets hope he comes good this term as the lads got quallity and play him on the wing ffs moysie ;)
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Posted 17 Aug 2006 - 12:52

It'll deffo be ozzie, micky, nev and tiny tim who'll start the season but the flashes i've seen in pre season imply to me he could have an impact this year.

I'm probably bias tho cos i'm welsh :P :D
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Posted 17 Aug 2006 - 13:00

It'll deffo be ozzie, micky, nev and tiny tim who'll start the season but the flashes i've seen in pre season imply to me he could have an impact this year.

I'm probably bias tho cos i'm welsh  :P   :D

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:lol: its ok to be from anglsey my inlaws live their and there not so bad :lol:
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Posted 17 Aug 2006 - 13:03

Were good people over here yano!!! Plenty o' blues aswell
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Posted 17 Aug 2006 - 13:16

Were good people over here yano!!! Plenty o' blues aswell

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:D yer i know theres loads in ceamus bay and round the port at amlwch as when i were my shirt up their to spread the word of the peoples club they always stop and have a chat with ya nice ;)
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Posted 19 Aug 2006 - 18:19

Will he ever "come good" :(
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Posted 19 Aug 2006 - 18:24

i thought he played well today tbh,not as good as what he can be but hes showing promise, thought he was one of our better players, him, howard, Johnson and neville, wasnt happy with lescott but ill put that down to first day nerves, cant always play well on your début can you?
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Posted 19 Aug 2006 - 18:30

i thought he played well today tbh,not as good as what he can be but hes showing promise, thought he was one of our better players, him, howard, Johnson and neville, wasnt happy with lescott but ill put that down to first day nerves, cant always play well on your début can you?

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Sorry Andy didn't rate him at all (again) And I so do wan't him to do the business
He gives it 100% but can't seem to beat his man and gave away the ball cheaply all afternoon
For me it has to be Ossy every time
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Posted 19 Aug 2006 - 18:54

dont get me wrong mate i think he played well but i wouldnt have him in my first team if i could help it, id have mcfadden on the left and a born again VDM on the right would be just peachy
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Posted 19 Aug 2006 - 19:27

i thought he played well today tbh,not as good as what he can be but hes showing promise, thought he was one of our better players, him, howard, Johnson and neville, wasnt happy with lescott but ill put that down to first day nerves, cant always play well on your début can you?

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To be fair to the lad he was playing out of position on his début aswell, if he was already up to speed with the Premiership then fair enoguh but he isnt yet
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