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#1 Everton_Worshiper

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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 12:36

...would anyone miss him from the team?
Last 2 years IMO he has been on the decline and we need a new right back, and not a "utility" man playing at right back....
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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 12:41

If Hibbert left I'd throw a fucking party. Hopefully the rumours about us bringing Hoyte in are true and we can get rid of this deadwood.

Edited by Romey 1878, 06 Nov 2007 - 12:41.

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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 12:45

How much do you think Hoyte would cost us? and how muh do you think we could sell hibbo for... oh my god the idea of someone paying for him beggars belief.
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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 12:45

i think people know im a fan of hibbo (its just like me getting a game!)
but if we could bring in hoyte i'll be happy to have hibbo in back up
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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 12:48

he definately has declined i loved him when he first emerged, seemed such a promising fullback
i'd be made up with hoyte
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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 12:52

I used to like Hibbo, thought he was going to go from strenght to strenght, but i think that a lack of competition for the RB position has led to complaceny on his part. He may not have the desire or urgency to try and keep improving as a player as his starting place has never really been under any great threat.
This is not meant as an attack on his work rate or passion for playing football, just an observation on his growth as a player.
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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 12:57

he's a good defender, but it's disappointing he hasn't improved as a footballer with the ball at his feet, simple passes aren't that difficult, we all can do it..his aimless balls are inexcusable
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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 13:00

Yeah i agree. It just that I don't think he really adds anything to the team, just consitancy. A few years ago in our darker days that was almost enough, but now with lofttier ambitions and bigger challenges (ie europe) we need the team firing on all cylinders. Seeing what Baines brings to the team just highlights what Hibbert doesn't.

Edited by jamiemaher85, 06 Nov 2007 - 13:00.

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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 13:03

^ exactly, it's a joy to watch baines, he excites me (no homo) running up and down. we haven't had a player like that with ability for a while, i'm delighted we signed him, and i want hoyte for the right because i think he'll do a similar job.
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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 13:05

Dont need Hoyte or a replacement for Hibbert, we have our captain marvel Who plays better at fullback than anywhere else, and i think Jagielka will be a better Fullback.
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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 13:06

i don't know if i see jags as a fullback, and i certainly don't like pip there, even if he is better there
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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 13:08

Think Jags has looked good but not great, but I would still like Hoyte here, i think he could bring something to the team and he's still young so should get better. Whatever happens I don't want to see Hibbert walikng onto the team sheet until he learns to pass the ball better. Wouldn't be that sad to see him leave as i think he need to look for a better player in that position if we really want to keep challengin for european places.

Edited by jamiemaher85, 06 Nov 2007 - 13:09.

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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 13:10

Thats the point with Jags and Neville, they are not right back but they can play there....we need a right back not a utility man
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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 13:12

i don't know if i see jags as a fullback, and i certainly don't like pip there, even if he is better there


I'd like to see Hoyte in. Haven't seen much of him but he looks QUICK and young and what I have seen I've liked. Hibbo has definitely suffered, I used to really think he was an excellent defender but he just isn't doing the business at the moment - I certainly think the fans have gotten to him and now he just panics as he's so aware of the abuse he gets. Neville is definitely a decent enough rb and possibly Jags (tho I will judge him when he's played a bit more) but I think both lack a little pace and are not the most dynamic attacking players. I'd be delighted with Hoyte, I'd definitely try and snap him up.
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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 14:42

I think Hoyte is seriously unproven over a full season playing in various competitions, which is what we're aiming for.
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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 15:56

I think Hoyte is seriously unproven over a full season playing in various competitions, which is what we're aiming for.


Lescott was unproven, so was Yobo etc etc whilst Valente was a proven winner and international, yet he's rubbish! I think if Moyes thinks Hoyte looks the business then it's well worth a shot. We have options there if it doesn't work out or he needs to be taken out of the team for a break, I doubt he'd be big money.
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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 16:53

Lescott and Yobo had both played more games for Wolves and Marseilles respectively before they joined us than Hoyte has for Arsenal. At least, I'm pretty sure they had.
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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 17:59

Wouldn't really want to slag Hibbert as he's an Everton player and for that alone deserves more and WANTS to play for us unlike some!

Sure he hasn't improved in the last couple of seasons, but as we wouldn't get perhaps much for him then surely to keep him as a squad player would be right....who knows he might even step it up in the fight for that position.

On his day he's not a bad defender.But I certainly think Moyes should maybe splash out if can find a good right back in the Baines mould.
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Posted 06 Nov 2007 - 19:36

On his day he's not a bad defender.But I certainly think Moyes should maybe splash out if can find a good right back in the Baines mould.


Unfortunately, 'his day' is rarely a saturday or a sunday!
Think he suffers from a lack of confidence more than most players, you can see him sh*t his pants everytime he's on the ball, hence the aimless passes. Hoyte has impressed me on the few occasions i've watched him. Not sure where people are getting £2m from though-reckon WengerBoy will hold out for more like double that (and probably get it).
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