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#1 Bernie the Bolt

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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 12:11

"Nothing but the best" thats our motto, so why do Evertonians, and that includes the Evertonians at the helm of this once great club, accept second best? it makes me cringe to think how far down the pecking order we have gone.
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#2 Adam

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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 12:16

Welcome back Bernie

You mean anything in particular??? transfers????
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#3 FairWooney

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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 12:20

bloody hell, there's a shock!

bernies back!

Welcome back!

bernie in any respect what do you consierd our options to imrove at the moment. (with regards doing something othe than accepting second best.
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#4 Bernie the Bolt

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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 12:23

i mean the expectation levels of our fans have been run into the ground by the no marks who run this club, did anyone notice the 2 million we through away on the dane ???!!!!
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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 12:53

yes everyone noticed that. If you read the posts related there were a lot of angry people when that happend.

we all know some issue was hidden there as while he may not have instantly fitted into our tackle and boot it philsophy of the english game instantly he was clearly a quality player and with time could have come good. whatever the issue was we should have been told, not the cock and bull story from moyes telling us he lacked the skills required. does that get everyone off his back, or does it make us think he should have watched the player better before buying him or given him a trial.

A lot of money lost that we could ill afford to lose.

Unfortunately when the quality of the club drops, on and off field, so must the expecatations of the fans. I would love to start the season thinking that we are title contenders and expect nothing less than champions league qualification but for the last 10 years the club has shown that it is not in that position bar one season of "over achivement".

we've had to start from the begining expecting little and wishing for more. our expectations began to rise again at the start of this season but then after a poor start we are back down to where we started, hoping to get into the top half, then once we get there, hoping to get a European place.

I hate to see our once club being told their not a big club, struggling to make the top half of the league and finding that big names just aren't interested.

BUT i ask you Bernie what am I supposed to do in order not to accept second best?
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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 12:59

yes everyone noticed that.  If you read the posts related there were a lot of angry people when that happend.

we all know some issue was hidden there as while he may  not have instantly fitted into our tackle and boot it philsophy of the english game instantly he was clearly a quality player and with time could have come good.  whatever the issue was we should have been told, not the cock and bull story from moyes telling us he lacked the skills required.  does that get everyone off his back, or does it make us think he should have watched the player better before buying him or given him a trial.

A lot of money lost that we could ill afford to lose.

Unfortunately when the quality of the club drops, on and off field, so must the expecatations of the fans.  I would love to start the season thinking that we are title contenders and expect nothing less than champions league qualification but for the last 10 years the club has shown that it is not in that position bar one season of "over achivement".

we've had to start from the begining expecting little and wishing for more.  our expectations began to rise again at the start of this season but then after a poor start we are back down to where we started, hoping to get into the top half, then once we get there, hoping to get a European place.

I hate to see our once club being told their not a big club, struggling to make the top half of the league and finding that big names  just aren't interested.

BUT i ask you Bernie what am I supposed to do in order not to accept second best?

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Its simple! Stop being a tight arse and pour all those millions you have under ur floorboards into Everton :D
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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 13:50

Hi again Bernie

Of course he's right,we have slipped far down the pecking order,not just in terms of transfers and the like,but Goodison looks shabby by todays standards,where once it was a ground to be proud of,its now looking like an old slapper who had one bloke too many.

And its a symbol of all thats wrong with the club at the moment.
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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 15:06

Let out early for good behaviour eh?

Your quite right, and Fozzie has always been saying this sort of thing too

But what has lead to this;

1. Mis-mangement by the board(s)

2. Under-acheivement on the pitch

3. A combination of both

Sadly our blue blooded backers have long since distanced themselves from the club and Sir John has not left any real legacy or know one has taken it on.

Any recent tales from the dugout?
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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 15:59

Hi again Bernie

its now looking like an old slapper who had one bloke too many.

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So thats why Rooney left!
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#10 Bernie the Bolt

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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 16:14

Let out early for good behaviour eh?

Your quite right, and Fozzie has always been saying this sort of thing too

But what has lead to this;

1. Mis-mangement by the board(s)

2. Under-acheivement on the pitch

3. A combination of both

Sadly our blue blooded backers have long since distanced themselves from the club and Sir John has not left any real legacy or know one has taken it on.

Any recent tales from the dugout?

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#11 Bernie the Bolt

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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 16:29

in my humble opinion, the buck always stops at the number one, and we have a "number one" who simply isnt up to the job, look at little Wigan for example, they have a ruthless businessman at the helm who has worked wonders, why is that? because he has a proven way of doing things, he simply wont rest until he gets things operating as he sees fit, he even took on greater manchester police because , in his opinion, they were charging him too much to provide policing at Wigans home games. Whelan is exactly the type of person who should be in command of EFC, instead we have a person who without doubt is a massive Evertonian, but, hasnt a clue on how to progress. Unfortunately, being a big Evertonian wont take us foreward in the long term. This club has gone from being one of the biggest, to being overtaken by clubs who are not fit to be mentioned in the same sentance. Until we have a Dave Whelan or the like we will continue going backwards.
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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 16:34

to true sadly :(

Edited by GoldfishMemory, 26 Jan 2006 - 16:34.

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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 19:47

Very True Bernie, and welcome back............wheres you bin. ?????
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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 19:49

"Nothing but the best" thats our motto, so why do Evertonians, and that includes the Evertonians at the helm of this once great club, accept second best? it makes me cringe to think how far down the pecking order we have gone.

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You`ve gone down even further than you think. Everton`s biggest problem is that they can`t attract players anymore.
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#15 Bernie the Bolt

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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 19:54

Alright TL, nice to see theres still some owl arses on here!! ive been nowhere!
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Posted 26 Jan 2006 - 20:02

Just loved your "tales from the Dug out". PERHAPS A RE-WRITE for some of our younger and newer members who never had the pleasure. ????? ;)

Yeah, still hangin on Bernie, been on my last legs for a while. :D
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Posted 27 Jan 2006 - 02:30

Out of the Fire comes the "Bolt" of reason...

"As time Abate's & Once Mortal Men March with Giants, The Corner shop metamorphose's A further Decaying "Corner" shop....!!!
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Posted 27 Jan 2006 - 08:15

I remember the corner shop analogy. Wonder what we are now?
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Posted 27 Jan 2006 - 09:04

I want to have mad rampant sex with Cameron Diaz but I accept the missus is more realistic.

Edited by BlueBird, 27 Jan 2006 - 09:04.

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#20 FairWooney

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Posted 27 Jan 2006 - 10:14

for that one to work I guess you always hope that your missus can aspire to Cameron's level and one day get there ;)
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Posted 27 Jan 2006 - 13:16

About as much chance of my missus turning into Cameron Diaz as of us winning the Premiership in the next 20 years!!
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Posted 27 Jan 2006 - 14:11

About as much chance of my missus turning into Cameron Diaz as of us winning the Premiership in the next 20 years!!

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:lol:
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Posted 28 Jan 2006 - 07:40

About as much chance of my missus turning into Cameron Diaz as of us winning the Premiership in the next 20 years!!

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about as much chance as there is of you ever becoming a real Everton fan, instead of just the usual bellyachers we hear too much from!
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Posted 28 Jan 2006 - 15:38

about as much chance as there is of you ever becoming a real Everton fan, instead of just the usual bellyachers we hear too much from!

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Enough with the flaming please.

This is a freindly place.
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Posted 28 Jan 2006 - 17:59

about as much chance as there is of you ever becoming a real Everton fan, instead of just the usual bellyachers we hear too much from!

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Sorry didn't realise we were top of the league and gonna win the cup.

This thread is about not accepting second best, and you my friend are doing exactly that.

At least I am realistic. We will never be Chelsea or Man U football has changed for the worse.But we can hope to be on the outside of that group with the forays in and build from that.

If you can honestly say you see us winning a premiership in the next ten years then I want your rose tinted glasses please.
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