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The short of it is - he's limited. I championed him coming in so I don't need to learn about why we need him. I understand he's a firefighter. I'm responding to the suggestion that he couldnt be expected to do more with the players that he has. I think it's quite clear that the players have had their say and given some candid feedback as he confirmed himself... fair play for him to do that. I think it was last chance saloon though. It's not a case of expecting him to become something he isn't - it's about being less rigid, less predictable. He was doing the same thing match after match, the players looked beaten, the fans completely frustrated. It's not our best Everton side - but they aren't that shit to make them play like 1980s Cambridge United. I've not been too high on him and haven't been too low on him. The overreaction to our 4 game run was a bit cringey if I'm honest. He justifiably could have gone after palace at home. The fact that fans haven't kicked off more is a credit. I said in another post that he's done what it says on the tin, for that he can be thanked. Its not for us as fans to say who is good enough to replace him - yeah we could all go and plagiarise some footy hipsters review of some unknown South American league 2 manager who plays a new 33232 formation and will be the next city manager. Thats not our job but there are managers out there who would be chomping at the bit to manage in the PL.

I’ve been looking forward to this.

Had VVD in his pocket all game, if only that naughty Jordan Pickford hadn't snapped his ACL back in 1904 then he would have stood a chance. DCL is boss.

Dyche in a suit, 3-0 Brentford. Dyche in a trakkie, 73-0 to us.

In what has been teams filled with shite, one thing has been consistent - that I fucking love Jordan Pickford. I'll be honest he could be playing at a much higher level than us, he's an outstanding goalkeeper and like @Romey 1878 would be made up if when he called it a day it was whilst wearing an Everton kit.

There's no way he'll get a new contract offer until we have a proper board and new owners in. And well, new owners and old managers don't always last long together

It's bullshit isn't it? Liverpool players were tired. Liverpool had lots of injuries. The pressure got to them. Of course none of applies to Everton. Plus to say that Dom wasn't fouling the Liverpool players, but was leaving a bit on them. If that's true why did the ref keep giving free kicks to us? Could swear I saw VVD and Konate repeatedly foul Dom.

24 hours ago I was dreading the match. Never dreamed what a tremendous match it would be

Hardly any media gave us credit and this claim of tiredness is a joke haven’t City and Arsenal played similar amount of games. Liverpool have possibly the biggest squad in the premier league. Saying Tarks has only played 41 games and Nunez 50 plus games but Tarks has probably played more minutes Nunez has had a lot of bit parts to play

I agree with those who are championing have a bit of stability in the management department. At the moment there is very little continuity at this club, so wouldn't change the management team unless we absolutely have to. I think Dyche has done much better than most of the managers we have had in the Moshiri period with much fewer resources and he's had a lot more issues and problems to deal with. Not a high benchmark I must admit, but there has and very much still is over ridding reasons why managers struggle here. I wouldn't doubt any replacement manager coming would find the Everton job easy. I don't think there have been that many bad performances (5-6 maybe), they may not have been asthetically pleasing, but most haven't been stinkers, I still think we actually deserved more wins/draws that we have ended up with to date. I don't think we have been riding our luck in the games in which we have got results, most points won have been deserved. In an alternative universe when point deductions don't exist and you get a little be more of the rub of the green, we could have just as easy have been in a push for a European spot. Just off the top of my head I still don't understand how Fulham, Wolves and Luton stole 9 points off us at home in the first few weeks of the season - Boom, just considering those 3 games and no points deduction - performance wise we could easily be sitting 8th with 50 points. All ifs and buts, but we have not been far off getting the points West Ham and even Newcastle has to there name this season. If we hadn't be artificially 'stuck' in the relegation zone all season, there would be very little talk of swapping Dyche out next season.

The comment at the end of the Pickford and Dom interview from Dom, “ We can put the past behind and focus on winning the next derby” I love that, not dwelling on the past.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c90z9j0kkkjo

Well you've done it now

You're right. And must admit I was wrong in some cases regarding certain players. Still, Onana has to be sold asap for as much as we can get, but I think most agree on that. I also think that most here on TT agree that Dyche is not the answer for a longer campaign and that he was brought here to avoid relegation and create stability. Now, as mentioned from Matt, it would be a big fat lie to say we have stability on the pitch, but that also goes for pretty much everything else off the pitch. With the almost secure "success" of stayng in top flight we should hopefully be interesting to a solid owner/sponsorship. The only way is up, baby.

Been typing it for 30 minutes but kept getting interrupted, hadn't even seen yours

You expanded on my shorter post perfectly.

How is the ability of the international footballers to pass a ball on Dyche? Unless you think he's actively coaching them to be shit passers? You don't want him here, you've made that clear in pretty much every thread since December, don't remember much prior to that. Meanwhile, I think he's progressed us quite a bit, despite the turmoil around the club, and think he deserves a crack with better players. You haven't managed to convince me until now that there is a better solution, I don't see anything has changed except we won our first home Derby in 14 years, have kept 11 clean sheets, have the 4th best defensive record in the league and should be sitting on a minimum of 41 points. Comparing that versus the last 2 seasons with pretty much the same squad, arguably weaker, and all the noise, that's impressive. Far from good enough, but a massive positive trend. Realistically speaking there's 2 options for next season in my eyes: 1) PSR/FFP will continue to screw us over meaning the squad isn't going to be improved upon and, whilst it's mostly ugly, Dyche has got us progressing in the right direction during these very challenging circumstances. So why change? 2) We're somehow allowed to buy players but still have to be careful with spending, probably more bargain shopping as most sales profits will go to the books. Would you want a new manager in for that? Potentially and with good reasons. People (moreso than players I imagine) could say Dyche can't attract the players we want, let alone could potentially afford. But then who? I accept that we're still attractive with our history and the new stadium, but who takes us further than the last day relegation escapes to a midtable seaonal performance with less options and more pressure? I don't think we'd see this squad go on to a top 8 squad with anyone else, but who knows. Personally I don't think it's a gamble we need to take next season. I think, harsh as it is, that he gets 1 more season and if he doesn't improve further then we've a new manager for the new stadium. That's probably the best we can hope for with all things considered.

I'd much rather he was our manager next season than not. The following season is another question. Things don't look like they're going to be any easier for us next season (in terms of off field stuff) so I'd prefer to keep the stability going. We absolutely cannot get relegated any time soon and he's the safest option to make that a reality. That doesn't mean he's a guarantee but I think it's too risky to get shut in the summer.

So international footballers can't be expected to pass a ball? sorry Matt, talking nonsense not talking about him playing like city, I'm talking about working on creating a couple of overloads here and there.

He kept us up last year; it looks like he will keep us up this year. He has the backing of the players. He has carried the club on his back in very trying circumstances. I think he deserves a shot next year with hopefully some better attacking players. Two bona fide forwards - a 10 and a winger - and an attacking right back - changes this team completely.