SteeleRED Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 You should be Redington Steele, tis a bit more daper( Brosnan) than steelered. ( Prob go over the youngun's heads that). 49983[/snapback] 1) Not such a youngun here. If I can remember watching the original broadcast episodes of "Remington Steele" here in the States in the 1980s, that qualifies me as anything but a "youngun". 2) Dapper? About the furthest thing from dapper, am I. In my dreams, perhaps, and certainly to my wife of 23 years, but that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteeleRED Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 21 shots - but how many on target. ANyone can shoot from outside the box - anyone can shoot wide. ANyone can pass a ball to their own defence. Any one can pass through and around their defence. the stats mean nothing when you have been beaten...er...destroyed... Jeez - go to any sunday league game -anywhere in the world (even India) and you will see 100 shots a game from as far out as the half way line - but they dont go in and therefore dont reflect ANYTHING from the game... RS fans - time to take it on the chin...you got done by the better team on the day. its as simple ans easy to understand as that. - it really is! 49733[/snapback] Watched the game twice here in the States, courtesy of Gol TV and Liverpoolfc.tv overseas broadcast. Wonder if you saw the same match I did? How many of our shots were way off target? The commentators for the match pointed out several times the multiple near-misses: from Garcia, Crouch, Gerrard a couple of times as well as a few crosses that were agonizingly inches from reach and a sure-fire goal. I have two matches in mind from last season that show that "the score doesn't always reflect the closeness of the game": LFC 5, Fulham 1 (15/03/06) and LFC 1, Sunderland 0 (20/08/05). The latter match was a more tightly contested match, with Fulham pressuring LFC all over the pitch. They conceded 3 in the last 20 minutes to make a close match seem like an arse-kicking. In the other afore-mentioned match, even though LFC only managed one goal in that game, at no point did Sunderland appear to have the capability of breaking through to get a shot on goal, let alone score. IIRC, LFC outshot Sunderland 20-2 in that one. You beat us, but not until the closing moments did I think you would prevail by two goals. And then Pepe made that Sunday-league play on the ball to gift you goal #3 (acutally, didn't Carragher make a similar play to free Andy Johnson for goal #2)? We lost, I know, but only in your dreams did you "crush/embarass/annihilate/ slaughter/pick your adjective" us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 So (for example) Andy Murray plays Andy Roddick in a tennis match...Roddick plays his arse off and fights tooth and nail for every point, gets game point after game point but just can't win the big ones...always misses when it matters so loses the game 6-1 6-2 6-1. Does he feel crushed, slaughtered and stuffed or does he make excuses and say he was unlucky? In ten years time people will look in the record books and say it was a stuffing. Goals are the only measure of a game ultimately...nothing else counts. We annihilated you, accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 (edited) Roddick would say that was an embarrassement Mike. Redsteele - you had 21 shots and I think only 4 were on target. What does that tell you? That Liverpool's players had their (accurate) shooting boots on? Even if they miss by a whisker, they still miss and dont test the goalkeeper. Edited September 14, 2006 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluenose Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Roddick would say that was an embarrassement Mike. Redsteele - you had 21 shots and I think only 4 were on target. What does that tell you? That Liverpool's players had their (accurate) shooting boots on? Even if they miss by a whisker, they still miss and dont test the goalkeeper. 50063[/snapback] hit the nail on the head as the saying goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteeleRED Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 (edited) Occasionally, I get carried away! In this, I will say: whether you won 1-0, or 7-0, you still only get one W for it. No more, no less. Ultimately, that is the only thing that matters. You came away with 3 points, we came up empty. No bonus points for the arse kicking you gave us. If you're looking for more meaning in your win than that, then you're getting carried away. Far too often have seen my teams (American football, baseball, basketball, hockey, and football) come away with an impressive win, then go out and get their arses kicked the next time out. And vice versa. Lost no sleep over 3-0. In fact, 1-0 would've been more agonizing: woulda, coulda, shoulda would've raced around in my head all day and the next. None of that here. Don't worry about us. We'll be fine. And I predict by season's end, it'll be you looking up at us. Again. Edited September 14, 2006 by SteeleRED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluenose Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 we have a better squad now than we did then our overall squad is younger faster more creative and of course were winning by much bigger scorelines. then we were gettin numerous 1-0 victories and now were winning by 2-0 and 3-0. if we can keep it up for the season i reckon we will be ahead of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 (edited) Don't worry about us. We'll be fine. And I predict by season's end, it'll be you looking up at us. Again. 50079[/snapback] That's a possibility my friend, but on the basis of the season so far (which is all we have to go on), it's not a probability. A lot will depend on us staying relatively injury free, as we did in 04/05, and how we perform in the next five odd games which on paper are not too challenging. Another ten odd points and we'll be roughly where we were in 2004 but with, in my opinion, a team superior in almost every department. We have no weak links (maybe left side debatable), a brilliant team ethic and the (forget Henry) best striker in the country on current form. I'm so excited I could spontaneously combust at any moment . Er...and I promise not to worry about you . Edited September 14, 2006 by mikeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 we have a better squad now than we did then our overall squad is younger faster more creative and of course were winning by much bigger scorelines. then we were gettin numerous 1-0 victories and now were winning by 2-0 and 3-0. if we can keep it up for the season i reckon we will be ahead of you 50081[/snapback] deffo like the sound of that matey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldfishMemory Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 The funny thing for me is above or below Liverpoo it doesnt realy matter we are improving and growing as a club, a team and our manager looks like he is learning too. As for the shite the spend all that cash an look the same if not worse than last season and all the heart / passion seems to be draining out the team with only stevie laaaa looking like he's actually proud to pull on the shirt. I bet deep down he wishes he was STILL waring the blue shirt when he looks at the pride and passion in our club (a club by the way which doesnt need to win silvewear to keep its fans and players interested)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 The funny thing for me is above or below Liverpoo it doesnt realy matter we are improving and growing as a club, a team and our manager looks like he is learning too. As for the shite the spend all that cash an look the same if not worse than last season and all the heart / passion seems to be draining out the team with only stevie laaaa looking like he's actually proud to pull on the shirt. I bet deep down he wishes he was STILL waring the blue shirt when he looks at the pride and passion in our club (a club by the way which doesnt need to win silvewear to keep its fans and players interested)! 50088[/snapback] you have a very valid point there fish and i agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 (edited) Occasionally, I get carried away! In this, I will say: whether you won 1-0, or 7-0, you still only get one W for it. No more, no less. Ultimately, that is the only thing that matters. You came away with 3 points, we came up empty. No bonus points for the arse kicking you gave us. If you're looking for more meaning in your win than that, then you're getting carried away. Far too often have seen my teams (American football, baseball, basketball, hockey, and football) come away with an impressive win, then go out and get their arses kicked the next time out. And vice versa. Lost no sleep over 3-0. In fact, 1-0 would've been more agonizing: woulda, coulda, shoulda would've raced around in my head all day and the next. None of that here. Don't worry about us. We'll be fine. And I predict by season's end, it'll be you looking up at us. Again. 50079[/snapback] I really see now that you do not see the point of winning a derby and that it does mean more than just 3 points, but then again I wouldnt expect a person with about as much affinity with liverpool as I have with real madrid to understand it. Your posts are very articulate and well thought out, but one thing they lack is PASSION You talk the talk and I walk the walk. Supporting your team with passion is more than spouting statistics and poor mans poetry. And contradictions Just another glory hunting hanger on, relentlessly trying to convert the unconverted. Edited September 14, 2006 by Zed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 *applause for Zed* Well said mate, spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 I was about to say, you dont actually seem to grasp to concept of the Derby itself, when you have your closest friends harping on for months on end with ' best team in blah blah' etc. then the derby (like always) brings other meanings, at the end of the day, we wasted you, 3-0 thats how it shows on paper, you can have twenty shots, we could have had 3 on target, thats shows how clinical we where. I have and will love Everton til my dieing days, regardless of tropies and like fish said, I'm sure Stevie Glaaaa and any other player that comes to the Old Lady can see the passion the fans have got and the love that they will always have for the club that they will always stick by til then end of their days. ONCE A BLUE, ALWAYS A BLUE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish_Reg Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 The funny thing for me is above or below Liverpoo it doesnt realy matter we are improving and growing as a club, a team and our manager looks like he is learning too. As for the shite the spend all that cash an look the same if not worse than last season and all the heart / passion seems to be draining out the team with only stevie laaaa looking like he's actually proud to pull on the shirt. I bet deep down he wishes he was STILL waring the blue shirt when he looks at the pride and passion in our club (a club by the way which doesnt need to win silvewear to keep its fans and players interested)! 50088[/snapback] which blue shirt are you referring to? us or chevs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 That's a possibility my friend, but on the basis of the season so far (which is all we have to go on), it's not a probability. A lot will depend on us staying relatively injury free, as we did in 04/05, and how we perform in the next five odd games which on paper are not too challenging. Another ten odd points and we'll be roughly where we were in 2004 but with, in my opinion, a team superior in almost every department. We have no weak links (maybe left side debatable), a brilliant team ethic and the (forget Henry) best striker in the country on current form. I'm so excited I could spontaneously combust at any moment . Er...and I promise not to worry about you . 50083[/snapback] not just the best striker, on current "stats" hes the best player in the whole league im bored of this yank who has no affiliation with this club he "supports", talking shit about somethin he knows nothing about. you can look all over the internet, in every library in the whole of the state and you will still never know what wining a derby means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xavier Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Heard a few comments like this and its definatly not the way i saw it from inside Goodison, infact my pissed up mumblings for the rest of the day generally included the line "not only 3-0 but off the fuckin park!" You lot cant take defeat with your head held high can you. 49628[/snapback] Eh? I said that the better team won did I not. My point was that it was never a 'Battering', an opinion which i still hold firm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
java2001e Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 "The commentators for the match pointed out several times the multiple near-misses: from Garcia, Crouch, Gerrard a couple of times as well as a few crosses that were agonizingly inches from reach and a sure-fire goal." we dont count near misses in soccer. they have to actually hit the back of the net! the fact is, apart from a couple of tough periods, we neve looked like losing and liverpoo never looked like winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 "The commentators for the match pointed out several times the multiple near-misses: from Garcia, Crouch, Gerrard a couple of times as well as a few crosses that were agonizingly inches from reach and a sure-fire goal." we dont count near misses in soccer. they have to actually hit the back of the net! the fact is, apart from a couple of tough periods, we neve looked like losing and liverpoo never looked like winning. 50373[/snapback] FACT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted September 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Occasionally, I get carried away! In this, I will say: whether you won 1-0, or 7-0, you still only get one W for it. No more, no less. Ultimately, that is the only thing that matters. You came away with 3 points, we came up empty. No bonus points for the arse kicking you gave us. If you're looking for more meaning in your win than that, then you're getting carried away. Far too often have seen my teams (American football, baseball, basketball, hockey, and football) come away with an impressive win, then go out and get their arses kicked the next time out. And vice versa. Lost no sleep over 3-0. In fact, 1-0 would've been more agonizing: woulda, coulda, shoulda would've raced around in my head all day and the next. None of that here. Don't worry about us. We'll be fine. And I predict by season's end, it'll be you looking up at us. Again. 50079[/snapback] What a shame we didn't get stuffed at the weekend but you bloody did!! Face it your SHITE!! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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