[MikeO]

Potential opponents...

Napoli
Standard Liège
NEC Nijmegen
AC Bellinzona
FC Honka Espoo

Liège would be interesting, but I'd rather avoid them.

Think we've got far and away the toughest "unseeded" pot in our group.

Full list http://www.uefa.com/competitions/uefacup/n...sid=743492.html

[dark]

Benfica are best avoided, they've got to be considered as one of the teams to challenge for the title along with AC Milan. Dinamo Bucharest would be intresting, time to get them back for thier performance against us last time we met them. Hopefully we get Santander, they're an OK club, but I think we would do well against them. Just try and avoid Benfica, Santander and Galatasary, Galatasary would probably cause us problems both and and off the pitch.

[MikeO]

dark, on Aug 29 2008, 11:08 AM, said:

Benfica are best avoided, they've got to be considered as one of the teams to challenge for the title along with AC Milan. Dinamo Bucharest would be intresting, time to get them back for thier performance against us last time we met them. Hopefully we get Santander, they're an OK club, but I think we would do well against them. Just try and avoid Benfica, Santander and Galatasary, Galatasary would probably cause us problems both and and off the pitch.

Not playing any of those mate, it's not the group stage draw, just the first round so we get to play one of the unseeded teams I listed. Then if we win that we go into another draw for the group stage .

[DonKey]

Just out of interest.

How the hell are the 'fair play' entrants in the competition a seeded team?
I may be being ignorant (apologies if I am), but do they have a recent record in this comp?

[Everton_Worshiper]

I hope we play "FC Honka Espoo", quality name for a football team!

[MikeO]

DonKey, on Aug 29 2008, 11:30 AM, said:

Just out of interest.

How the hell are the 'fair play' entrants in the competition a seeded team?

For seeding purposes, rankings are drawn up on the basis of a combination
of 33 per cent of the value of the respective national association’s coefficient
for the period from 2003/04 to 2007/08 inclusive (see Annex II, points 1 to 6)
and the club’s individual performance in the UEFA club competitions during
the same period. Each club retains the cumulative number of points obtained
during this period.

ANNEX II: Coefficient ranking system

1. The allocation of places per association for both the UEFA Champions
League and UEFA Cup will be made in accordance with a table of
performances covering five UEFA club competition seasons (i.e. UEFA
Champions League and UEFA Cup). This table (UEFA association coefficient
rankings) is compiled annually, with the oldest season dropped each time for
the purpose of the calculation.
2. The table is compiled as follows:
− a win to be worth 2 points (1 point for qualifying-round matches)
− a draw 1 point (½ point for qualifying-round matches)
− a defeat 0 points
Qualifying-round results are taken into account only for the calculation of the
association’s coefficient.
Until the 2003/04 season, clubs which reached the quarter-finals, semi-finals
or final of the UEFA Champions League or the quarter-finals, semi-finals or
final of the UEFA Cup were awarded an extra point for each such round. In
addition, one point was awarded for participation in the UEFA Champions
League.
As of the 2004/05 season, clubs which reach the first knock-out round,
quarter-finals, semi-finals or final of the UEFA Champions League or the
quarter-finals, semi-finals or final of the UEFA Cup are awarded an extra
point for each such round. In addition, three points are awarded for
participation in the UEFA Champions League.
Results obtained in the UEFA Intertoto Cup do not count for the coefficient
rankings determining the number of places in the UEFA Champions League
and UEFA Cup.
3. The points obtained each season by the clubs representing a national
association are added, then divided by the combined number of clubs from
the said association having taken part in the two UEFA club competitions in
question, to produce the coefficient value of the national association
concerned. Points obtained in the UEFA Intertoto Cup are exempt from this
stipulation, in accordance with point 2 above.
4. Coefficients are calculated to the thousandth, and not rounded up.
5. In the case of equal coefficients, the UEFA administration will take a final
decision, taking into consideration the individual coefficient of the most recent
season.
6. Points are awarded only for matches which have actually been played, in
accordance with the results ratified by UEFA. Kicks from the penalty mark to
determine which club qualifies, or the winner, do not affect the result used to
calculate the coefficient.


Hope that's clear !

[DonKey]

Thank you. Yes much....

[DonKey]

NOT!

[MikeO]

Liege . Inevitable.

[Adam]

We at home to Standard L

Could have been better

[Jimmy the blue]

MikeO, on Aug 29 2008, 12:21 PM, said:

Liege .

Dear Standard Liege

[efcdom]

how predictable is that.

[aaron]

one word....Fuck.

[Bill]

Time for another one of Jimmys open letters.

They looked a usefull side.

[jamiemaher85]

Will be a hard game. They looked very good against Liverpool. Can't say i'm hugely surprised to be honest, pretty trypical of our luck this summer.

[street end]

nothings ever easy for us of all the fuckin teams in it

[TOFFEE_BOY]

No Worries We Should Murder Standard Liege, Liverpool Are Crap Anyway so Lets hope We Stuff Them,

[Jay Bernard]

Yes this is a difficult draw epsecially the way they bossed Liverpool around for most of the game. All we need is for sumone to sell their soul and we will scrape through with a liverpoolesque last minute goal.

This post has been edited by Jay Bernard: 29 Aug 2008 - 11:32

[phelpsy]

From the moment the redsh#te scraped their win on weds that was going to be the draw. Typical. They look a bloody could side, i know its what happens on the night but bloody hell that could be us concentrating on the domestic cups and league!!! I really liked being on channel five every other thursday to.

With a bit of luck they might lose a couple of players before the transfer window??!

[dark]

MikeO, on Aug 29 2008, 11:11 AM, said:

Not playing any of those mate, it's not the group stage draw, just the first round so we get to play one of the unseeded teams I listed. Then if we win that we go into another draw for the group stage .

Sorry, feel like a bit of a prat now but thanks for your help. I see we got Liege, hopefully we can pull something out of the bag. If we have another performance like Metalist our luck will probably have run out. We need to get a good result at Goodison. That needs to happen.

[Rupert_Fuffeinsmuir III]

Very tough, I want to progress us in this competition. Actually the pressure might be off to a certain degree as they are a good side and so they will fancy their chances going into this too. We have the ability to get goals away so whilst going to Belgium with a decent advantage is what we all want, keeping them scoreless at GP is what is important. That's really what caused us the problems lasy year against Metallist. Things are never straightforward for us

Lets beat them to ensure there is no smug smirk on Alan Green's face!

[MikeO]

If we think it's hard for us think how the Liege fans must feel.

They're proper Champions but have to qualify for the Champions League.
Despite that they're unseeded for the draw and they get one of the biggest clubs in Europe.
For long periods they outplay them but lose in the last minute through a defensive howler.
UEFA Cup draw and still (ridiculously imo) unseeded.
They get one of the top 5/6 favourites for the competition who had an incredible success rate last season.

Tough for us certainly but tougher on them

[Rouches]

ON EST CHEZ NOUS ... ON EST CHEZ NOUS ... ON EST CHEZ NOUS

[lepatte]

Everton Lad, on Aug 29 2008, 1:28 PM, said:

one word....Fuck.

I like that kind of post..

Rouches, on Aug 29 2008, 2:15 PM, said:

ON EST CHEZ NOUS ... ON EST CHEZ NOUS ... ON EST CHEZ NOUS

Non peut-être

[MikeO]

Rouches, on Aug 29 2008, 1:15 PM, said:

ON EST CHEZ NOUS ... ON EST CHEZ NOUS ... ON EST CHEZ NOUS

Greetings Belgian lad. The first of many I hope, just so long as you behave better than shit-loads of Italians did earlier this year you're welcome .

PS....found out whose fault it is that we drew them....

c1982, on Aug 13 2008, 9:51 PM, said:

Liege look some team! If/ when the shite stumble past them, they'd be a tough team to meet in UEFA.

....lot to answer for 1982 !

[xavier]

Dear Standard Liege
In a few nights from now you play the vermin in their cesspit, the not so famous Woodinson. In times gone by teams have...

ah fuck it. Its too tedious.

[lepatte]

MikeO, on Aug 29 2008, 2:23 PM, said:

Greetings Belgian lad. The first of many I hope, just so long as you behave better than shit-loads of Italians did earlier this year you're welcome .

Hi guys..

Don't worry, we behave

Nothing more than the usual "jokes" between supporters but nothing mean

[MikeO]

xavier, on Aug 29 2008, 1:26 PM, said:

Dear Standard Liege
In a few nights from now you play the vermin in their cesspit, the not so famous Woodinson. In times gone by teams have...

ah fuck it. Its too tedious.

....an open goal from Jimmy there Xav, tucked away nicely so you can have that one .

Don't do it again!

[FromBelgium]

MikeO, on Aug 29 2008, 1:23 PM, said:

Greetings Belgian lad. The first of many I hope, just so long as you behave better than shit-loads of Italians did earlier this year you're welcome .

Oh dear! Will have to download Z-Cars now.
Fortunately, we know the way now. No new phrasebook needed.
Joseph Yobo used to live near my parents' place when he played for us.
What's the away fans' section like at Goodison in terms of comfort and view on the pitch? Is it comparable to what we got on the other side of the street (and it was great)?
Looking forward to meeting and beating you [on the pitch, that is], lads. Let's hope we fans get a good bit of banter

This post has been edited by FromBelgium: 29 Aug 2008 - 12:37

[jamiemaher85]

xavier, on Aug 29 2008, 1:26 PM, said:

Dear Standard Liege
In a few nights from now you play the vermin in their cesspit, the not so famous Woodinson. In times gone by teams have...

ah fuck it. Its too tedious.

good one!

He had it coming.

[Rouches]

Autant mettre nos amis d'Everton au parfum tout de suite ... allez les gars !


FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE - LAINI - NI - NI

EST PLUS FORT QUE GARBINIII

FEEEEE LAI NI NI

C'EST UN FAMEUX GABARIT

A SA GAUCHE A SA DROITE

IL RAMASSE TOUT CE QUI PASSE

AU STANDARD C'EST LE ROI

ET IL CHIE SUR BI GLI AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[xavier]

MikeO, on Aug 29 2008, 5:59 PM, said:

....an open goal from Jimmy there Xav, tucked away nicely so you can have that one .

Don't do it again!

Haha!

Well you should be able to beat this lot, IMO. It wasnt their quality that rattled us but the fact that they were physical and played at a high tempo for 90 mins. We just couldnt handle it as we had no width, the fact that Gerrard was injured and the others bar Reina and Torres were just rubbish.

Mbokani is a good player though and he might trouble you.

[FromBelgium]

Fellaini
He's stronger than Garbini
He's a big, strong lad
To his left, to his right
He makes every ball his
And he's stronger than Biglia (* Anderlecht - our worst enemies - defender/midfielder)

Rouches, please brush up your English otherwise I fear your posts won't be understood by many.

[dark]

xavier, on Aug 29 2008, 1:40 PM, said:

Well you should be able to beat this lot, IMO. It wasnt their quality that rattled us but the fact that they were physical and played at a high tempo for 90 mins. We just couldnt handle it as we had no width, the fact that Gerrard was injured and the others bar Reina and Torres were just rubbish.

Mbokani is a good player though and he might trouble you.

I'm getting more confident, I think we'll be a good force in Europe again so I don't see why we can't beat Standard at Goodison.

FromBelgium, on Aug 29 2008, 1:41 PM, said:

Rouches, please brush up your English otherwise I fear your posts won't be understood by many.

Yeah, no-one can understand you, if your not posting in English you might aswell not post at all.

[rscl4ever]

Prepare to greet fans number 1 of Europe ...

Hope that you'll be louder than liverpool fans in Liege because we had never hear them ...( ou comment en remettre une couche sur leur rivalité )

I hesitate to come back in Liverpool because of the 18 hours of bus and 4 hours of boat in 2 days I will see the cost ...

[AigleAwirs]

Hello from Belgium.

I see there are nearly more standard fans on this topic than Everton ones.

[Redjoe]

Hello !

I'm new here and I'm a Standard of Liège fan. I hope that the two teams will play a good football for the fun of everyone. Who will win ? Nobody knows but I hope the two teams will play their best football. Sure RFCL will win, but everything is possible. Good kuck.

This post has been edited by Redjoe: 29 Aug 2008 - 13:16

[belgian]

xavier, on Aug 29 2008, 1:40 PM, said:

It wasnt their quality that rattled us but the fact that they were physical and played at a high tempo for 90 mins.

Liverpoolfan: " they tackled us and we don't like that"
What's wrong with Liverpool Fc?

anyway.
be focussed and Everton will go through.

[lepatte]

AigleAwirs, on Aug 29 2008, 3:15 PM, said:

Hello from Belgium.

I see there are nearly more standard fans on this topic than Everton ones.

We're already at home we told you

[aaron]

im possibly going the away game in belgium, whats your ground like liege fans? and what are your fans like?