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OK we did not let him go then. But did we really try and keep or use him? What i am really saying is that he is providing another club with exactly what we need at the moment. We had it but some of us did not realize it. We might have some more of them around.

Deulefeu had a blinder for Watford against Chelsea. Won them a penalty, scored a great goal and played like a proper midfielder making devastating runs and incisive passes. Why did we ever let him go? Our midfield is non existent at the moment. Maybe Everton must find a manager who knows how to coach a side playing with at least one nr 10.

There is no glue in this Everton side keeping it together. They do not play as a unit. The passing and interplay must be the worst in the league. Part of the problem is the total absence of a nr 10 working his socks off. Our back 4 is not doing the basics right and makes the whole team nervous. As yet we do not have a reliable striker. Gilfy is not a left wing. Roony is no more than a poacher. We do not have enough players capable of scoring regularly in the PL. Walcott will make no big difference. Get a proper nr 10 first - FOR EVERTON'S SAKE !

I will briefly repeat my point of view (unpopular with some): Everton have - 1) a manager problem. Look what the WestBrom caretaker manager managed to do at Tottenham. 2)a captain problem. We look like rudderless team. 3)a squad problem (out of balance), not playing as a team and for the team 4)an experience problem - too many youngsters. We look and play like an under 23 side. 5)a commitment problem - senior players not pitching up, just going through the motions. 6)a striker problem 7)a nr 10 problem - no service, no link, no distribution 8)a passing problem - can't string 5 passes together 9)an attitude problem. Most players play like they are on a go slow strike ala end of Martinez-era. Some players think they are bigger than the game/club. 10)10 defensive problems - too many to mention. We are staring down the relegation barrel big time. Total makeover required urgently. Rather sooner than later.

Thanks Bill - explanation accepted. What I meant was that if I said that about City it would be unwarranted. Hope you understood my explanation for very negative view of Everton's current state of affairs. I struggle to find any positives - my honest opinion. The Everton engine does not need a new part it needs an overhaul.

You make it sound as though i referred to Man City in my comment. Tell me more about all the positives at Everton that I so obviously missed on Saturday Bill. When some seats start going empty at Goodison some fans will clearly blame the seats instead of facing the facts. To encourage an old Everton fan to support any other club is not necessary if you do not share their point of view. Attack my argument and not my person please Bill. I eagerly await your sensible counter argument instead of just another personal attack.

Everton is playing the worst and ugliest football at the moment since the last Moyes days. The squad is totally unballanced. Too many new players. Too many young and inexperienced players. Too many players with enough skill but too little brains. A captain and a stand-in manager who is not mentally strong enough to handle the crisis we find ourselves in. At this rate we shall certainly remain strong relegation contenders. We need a clever manager, strong captain, another striker, a proper nr 10 a better left back and changes at defensive mid. Keane is a liability at centre back as well. Effort alone is not enough in this league. It is a miracle that we did not end up with 10 men yesterday.

With the amount of money splashed on under performing players the last thing Everton now need is an under performing manager. Go for broke I say. Buy the best we can get. A bad jockey can ruin a good horse while a good jockey will get the most out of a bad horse. No need to take chances with a cheapie now. That will be penny wise and pound foolish.

Pickford must be the top conceding first choice goal keeper in Europe by now.

Keep in mind Lyon also has a relatively young squad. We have been comprehensively outplayed ......... again.

Everton also needs an experienced, clever and strong captain on the pitch.

We need a proper manager to crack the whip with this squad. They are individually and collectively not deserving their wages.

Guys we are crap. The mix of this team is mixed up.

Schneiderlin makes basic mistakes. How we miss the stability and cool head of Barry.

I really hope this is the end of Europe for us. We need to focus on PL.

Move Sirgudson to nr 10 bring Niasse/Mirallas on as striker and Vlasic on the wing. At least we will look like a side that can score then. Unsworth not clever enough for this tough situation.

Everton looks like a FA Cup first round side against league 1 opposition. No proper striker, no proper nr 10. Opportunity to give confidence missed. This side on the pitch will battle to win anything.

If I have to choose between the long dice or the short dyche i will take the short one. If I have a free choice I would love to have Pelligrini or Rodgers. We are talking about chalk and cheese here.

My first choice would be Pelligrini and my second Rogers. Both have recently managed top 4 PL clubs by playing attractive football.

This is the worst I have seen Everton play since the last Moyes year. This side looks totally lost. They play like an average Championship side. Far too many young and inexperienced players in key positions. We need a proper striker, someone playing the proper nr 10 role, new left and right back and some proper gamebreaker on defensive mid. Mirallas on the left wing, (he would also be a better striker than Calvert-Lewin) Sirgudson at nr 10, and Roony as impact player from the bench, playing just behind the striker. Lookman or Vlasic on right wing. And a new manager please, urgently!!. What about Brendon Rogers?

Koeman lost the players somewhere along the line. Same thing happened to Martinez. Leicester did the same to their manager and where are they now? Koeman made mistakes but in my opinion our players must take half the blame at least, for us being in the relegation zone. I wish I could fire a few of them for underperforming like Koeman. Our defense is the second worst in the league. Goalkeeper suspect, no proper left or right back, Keane leaks goals galore, Williams has gone mad, Jagielka is over the wall, defensive mids all over the place. What do you expect? No proper nr 10, no top class striker, no speed on the wings. I mean really. Koemans biggest mistake was the squad he put together. Completely out of balance. Bring in Pellegrini I say.

Koeman must take blame for putting a side together that does not seem to want to gel. The players must take blame for looking like a squad that does not want to play - for their manager and/ or club. I am very unhappy with manager AND players at the moment. Neither shows any ambition or fighting spirit. Niasse and Mirallas tried when given a small chance. We have no proper striker AND no proper nr 10 - after spending a fortune and a half!!

I wanted to comment on the game but this thread has derailed completely. Very little sense and football spoken on last 2 pages. Reading it was just as bad as watching Everton desperately wanting to play like a big club while they as a team have not gelled yet.

This looks like a team of fair players who have never played together before. Team spirit and effort are missing. Defenders are generally hanging back instead of pressing. Huge lack of rhytm and pace in attack. We do not look like a side that can score against a top 6 team at the moment. Defensive mids and right back were leaving acres of space to their attackers. On paper we have a better side but they have yet to deliver.

Hope for your sake Barkley signs - Hope for Everton's sake we sign a proper nr 10 this summer