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  1. Stadium - All ifs, buts and maybes...

    They were covered in other posts. It is not my fault you have poor comprehension. I am being serious now, you can get therapy for it.
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    BTW, Alstrom, the train manufacturer, are setting a big Transport Technology Centre with a production facility on the Liverpool-London line not far from Finch Farm. 600 well paid jobs are being created. Work will start soon building the plant. So much for Finch Farm being in the middle of nowhere.
  3. Stadium - All ifs, buts and maybes...

    Replying to the both of you, that was obvious. If you have comprehension problems then I cannot help you. Read and at least try.
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    You are making yourself look idiotic. Finch Farm is in Halewood. That is daft as saying Dingle is in the middle of nowhere as large parks with lots of grass are near. George Harrison, he was a well known Liverpudlian, was brought up less than 2 km from Finch Farm. In the middle of nowhere? Grow up. Stadia are no guarantee of regeneration, and I gave clear examples. Man City's stadium is inside a sports complex. The City e.g, was to demonstrate that EFC need a 60,000 plus stadium, no more. Pay attention. All to often here I write something very clear and the responses hardly relate to what I wrote, like it was a different post.
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    You can't read well. John, where did you get the information from that EFC are looking into FF? A birdie told me... Don't believe bluster from Joe. He is electioneering for next years election to be metro mayor. I want Luciana Berger to win. She can spoke proper.
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    If the passenger numbers are up the DfT will pay - see my figures. They may expect the likes of the airport and EFC to contribute to the stations. EFC will need about 6 platforms to shift as many people ASAP, with two operational on normal days. GP has been off the radar for 20 years. Not worth the bother even talking about it.
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    EFC still have FF in the lens. The rest is Anderson promoting his popularity - aiming for the gallery.
  8. Stadium - All ifs, buts and maybes...

    You found promise. I have tried to ingrain some sanity in them for you. Not easy you know.
  9. Stadium - All ifs, buts and maybes...

    You were wrong on many points for sure. I clarified it all for you. Thanks would be nice. The city has been wanting a station at the airport for a long time. The volumes of people using stations at the: airport, Hale, Speke, a stadium and Halewood, is enough to get DfT funding for that branch and incorporating into Merseyrail. Man City have expanded from 48,000 to 55,000 and fill the place. They have planning permission to expand to 61,000 making the stadium the second largest football ground in the UK - 1 and 2 in Manchester. Everton need a 65,000 seater for sure, as Everton are better supported club. Easy transport access ensures maximum take up. See Arsenal. So, let us say Everton have an average of 60,000 for 25 games. That is 1.5 million per ann. Say half go by rail, that is 750,000 but having two trips, there and back,which takes it to 1.5 million, which is over an average of 4,000 per day per ann for EFC alone. Then Halewood, Speke, Hale and the airport on top. The line is then viable. Then the airport expands in time and industry and domestic homes are attracted to the area. Then even more. Then any summer concerts, internationals, rugby finals, etc, at the stadium. Looking good. The airport and EFC may be required to contribute to the costs of a high capacity station. Arsenal were to contribute to the cost of expanding Holloway Rd station, but so far have paid nothing.
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    Greenbelt? Greenbelts were extensively introduced in the 1950s and intended to be narrow and primarily used for recreation by the inhabitants of the towns and cities they surrounded. The belts were expanded in width, but continued to be used for farming. The shire counties used greenbelts to hold back the disliked populations of nearby towns and cities. Recreational uses disappeared and the greenbelts became green barriers to keep large numbers of urban inhabitants from mixing with a very small number of rural residents. Often these greenbelts are not even green, containing industry and intensive industrial agriculture - as between Liverpool and Widnes. Instead of being a sports jacket for the urban dwellers geenbelts became a straight jacket. Greenbelts achieve nothing. The sooner they are abandoned the better. A branch off the Liverpool-Manchester line south to the airport via a stadium can be built nowhere near the residents of Halewood. Look at the maps I gave. A branch can be anywhere from Halewood station to the M57 Mway. The people of Halewood would welcome Halewood station being on Merseyrail giving superb access to the rest of the city region. A line from the airport could run right up to Southport forming a full south to north Crossrail. Get on the train at the airport, or any station along the line, and to are in reach, without a change, of all the south, centre and north of Liverpool and the towns to the north. Superb. The city gains big time as does EFC as EFC have easy access as well. Hit the link on my sig. Heritage land is internationally recognised and important to the 'world', hence World Heritage Site. You value open land similar to land of world importance. UNESCO (the UN) think differently. A stadium at Finch Farm will give jobs for those in Speke and Halewood, not forgetting Hough Green and connect Halewood, Speke, Hale Village and the airport to the Merseyrail metro if a line is run in - which is daft to to. It can also take away fans directly into the stadium by rail and road from an Mway, and right back out. No one wants marauding Chelsea fans around the city. Also it will ensure Everton, remember them, will maximise attendances which maximises revenue able to compete with the best. A hell of a lot of positives there. There is less hassle and grief at Finch Farm as it is open land. The extra costs of funding a rail line to the airport can be met by many bodies as many will benefit. The city urgently needs a station at the airport connected to all major North West/North Wales towns and cities. The city gains big times as well. The city, remember that? The economy will improve. We all gain. The costings for new lines varies of course. HS2 was considered cheap as it is mainly over open land. The disused Great Central Railway was considered for high-speed rail and is straight but 14 miles has been built on in urban areas so reinstating is expensive. This line to the airport via a stadium will be pretty cheap as it is over open land and as I pointed out the cost will be carried by many. Whatever the cost as the airport, Hale, Speke, EFC and Halewood gain it will be excellent value for money. The line will attract industry as well, promoting jobs - another plus point. If it is easy to get to, they set up. The mayor will not push Finch Farm is it is just outside the city. A future metro mayor would and Joe wants to be metro mayor. A metro mayor is over all the towns and cities in the metro area, as Khan is in London.
  11. Stadium - All ifs, buts and maybes...

    What track? Where? When? Track over to the airport via Finch Farm will be mainly over open land, the cheapest you can have.
  12. Stadium - All ifs, buts and maybes...

    They are, as Kirkby was a wake up call. They are. Do not suck in all that vote canvassing Joe Anderson says. Understand how these thing work to maximise revenues and wise up. And stop making things up.
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    I know. It is a matter to getting together and getting at HMG/DfT, etc
  14. Stadium - All ifs, buts and maybes...

    You drove a cab around in the 'middle of nowhere'?