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    Brexit...

    My last post for a little while as the holiday begins tomorrow and I will be way too busy laying on a beach in Malaysia with my family for 3 weeks to surf the internet much. Hopefully, some form of satisfactory resolution can be found in the next few days and peace can then break out between both sides on this discussion.
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    Very funny, sarcastic and witty Pete, but totally irrelevant. If we can't maintain a decent standard of living in UK for UK citizens (how many food banks are there now?) then we are in no position to help anyone else. In that regard, charity really does begin at home. If you want to expand the debate, I favour a UN standing army (mainly of a technical ability - engineers, technicians, medical facilities, supply support, catering, police, defence etc), backed up by NATO if necessary and for all countries to contribute an agreed and identical per cent of their GDP to be used to deal with issues 'in country' as much as possible. That seriously mitigates the pressure on public services from immigration, reduces dramatically the number of displaced people and hopefully provides a positive stimulus for struggling countries to develop. But it doesn't detract from the fact that EU was built on a lie and has consistently practiced deceit to try to achieve its political aims.
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    Monnet's quote https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/565148-europe-s-nations-should-be-guided-towards-the-superstate-without-their is an admission from within the early days of EU itself that it intended to achieve federalism by deceit and is a direct copy of Hitlers plan of stripping freedoms one small layer at a time so that by the time people realise what is happening they are powerless to prevent it. What more proof do you need that the EU was founded on a lie and has consistently practiced deceit in pursuit of its political aims? I am not pro a European political Union at all. But an association of free, sovereign and independent nations, each with their own political system and freedom is a far better (and much simpler and less restrictive) model than the administrative and political and financial straitjackets that comes with EU membership today.
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    Not at all Holy, I am pro a Europe of sovereign, independent, allied states, with a loose trading agreement and voluntary cooperation in areas of mutual interest. That is the grown up way to manage today's modern world. Alliances are important but must be used to protect sovereignty, not to take it away. The EU is trying to set up a European federal superstate and is no longer fit for purpose in today's world. A European non political Alliance of sovereign, independent states would be fine. But for defence we have NATO, for trade we could either have a loose association or trade under WTO rules. Interpol existed long before the EU and any other areas of mutual cooperation could be addressed on a voluntary basis between independent states. That gives all states the freedom to trade with who they can arrange bi lateral deals with, inside or outside Europe. We will never agree on this but I am happy to continue the debate if you wish.
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    Not scandalous at all. It is the logical conclusion to be drawn from the EU previous MO. And, of course, supported by non other than Monnet himself. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/565148-europe-s-nations-should-be-guided-towards-the-superstate-without-their
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    Brexit...

    From the Right of Centre (but certainly not extreme right wing) Daily Telegraph. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1325398/Euro-court-outlaws-criticism-of-EU.html
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    Brexit...

    Palfy, you have previously come across as a reasonable, articulate and educated person. Can you try finding him again and bring him back out to play please. Liverpool is a prime example of EU targeting an area exactly as I mentioned in my post. Yes, there is undoubtedly short term gain for the people of Liverpool, (remember that Hitler got the trains running on schedule and was popular with many Germans for economic reasons for a while) but long term the EU is using the situation to ferment internal division within UK which it intends to use for its own benefit, certainly not Liverpool's. It is just a means to a political end for EU and it is following in economic terms the same less subtle methodology used in Germany in the 1930's. Once EU decides it no longer needs Liverpool and similar areas, just watch the investment dry up. Also, this is a national UK issue and therefore needs looking at as a whole and not from a 'Liverpool centric' perspective as you seem to be starting to do. As for sucking up to Matt, that is a ridiculous statement to make. I believe in being fair and have agreed and disagreed with him in the past and will undoubtedly do so again in the future. On this occasion I don't agree with his arguments but I can express empathy with the situation he may find himself in. That has nothing to do with sucking up and everything to do with being a human being Palfy. There is a bit of sore loser coming through in your posts Palfy and I really thought you were better than that.
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    Brexit...

    Top post. We have been in Common Market/EEC/EU since 1973 and it just hasn't worked for us as a country. I understand the criticism of democracy being used for political advantage - moving county boundaries etc but what about EU pumping money into areas which it thinks are pro EU, what abour EU senior officials not being allowed to criticise EU - on pain of losing their exorbitant and tax free pensions? This is all a subtle, but very effective, form of administrative dictatorship and we need to get out of its clutches. Of course there will be people who say that leaving will adversely affect them on an individual basis but the decision has to be made on the basis of what is best for the country - while negotiating reciprocal rights to protect people such as Matt or, ultimately, having a fund to compensate people like Matt. I think we have given EU long enough to reform but not only is it not reforming, it is becoming more and more federal and political and dictatorial which is not what we signed up to in 1973 and certainly not how it was sold to us. I am pro Europe but very anti EU. A loose trading association of independent sovereign states with voluntary cooperation in other areas of mutual interest would work far better than this increasingly dictatorial organisation which, after more than half a century, still can't make its mind up if it is based in Brussels or Strasbourg or both.
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    Brexit...

    Its not because I don't want to see or not see anything. I just can't see any link in your response to the most eloquent point that Johnh made. I have read it again and I still can't. Not won't, can't! Believe me, I looked, hard.
  10. A fair synopsis of the situation I think.
  11. My thoughts exactly. We have tried the same thing with Martinez, Koeman and Silva and it just isn't working. I think we need someone with a proven track record of success in the Premier League and Rafa fits that requirement better than anyone else I can think of who we could realistically attract. If we go for the Ajax manager and it fails again we risk becoming a laughing stock.
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    Brexit...

    I think you are confusing the term 'impossible' with a refusal to be cowed. It was you who made the law an issue, yet when I pay you the compliment of playing by your rules you show little or no substance. Either you respect democracy or you do not. Democracy requires the consent of the minority. Otherwise there is no democracy. Politics has always been a dirty game and democracy has always had its flaws, but it has served us well for centuries and must not be allowed to die under the jack boot political tactics of some of those that don't like the referendum decision.
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    I fail to see the relevance of what you just wrote Matt. Can you explain for me as I just don't understand how that offers any rebuttal whatsoever to the point that Johnh made so eloquently.
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    Brexit...

    So, you still won't or can't explain your legal points against an eminent QC who states that we have already left EU. Still attacking the messenger and not the message. You also say that you will accept it if we leave the EU but how about accepting the decision to leave EU and not supporting all the underhand tactics of Remain MPs who are still trying to subvert the democratic will of the people?
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