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One thing this game has shown me is how little I care about the derby these days. I was more interested in the F1 qualifiers than the derby. It means so little to me now. I didn't feel any disappointment about losing to the shite what so ever, but this result has destroyed me. I'm gutted lost for words even. All I can do is wish the other English clubs in UEFA the best of luck and hope that our league form takes a turn for the better.

I'm stunned by the negative outlook by some of the fans here eg....I pray for a win and that is about as far as it goes. I will fucking flip if we concede any more oggies or have defensive cock ups against this lot. Seldom have I dever feared a derby. I do this one. Its 3 points on offer and with 30+ games to go that doesn't mean a great deal. It would be lovely for the fans to see their 1st home win of the season. What I would like to see is none of our players sent off. I don't care as much about 3 points at this early stage of the season. I'd be far more pleased to end the game with 11 players.

I,m surprised this thread has been started by a red supporter, for a while now my red shite friends have been saying that the Merseyside Derby isn't an important match to them anymore. I guess this year is different, now they've got the stigma of not being able to beat Man U at home of their shoulders. So what do I hope for from this game, a first home win of the season will have been worth the wait if it comes agains't our neighbours. "Can we kick start our season this weekend?" I hope so because this is a very important week for the future of our club. Perhaps its apt we should start it with a blast of nostalgia.

I think this is going to be a thrilling match fingers crossed we're on the winning team c.o.y.b

>>>>>>>>.Did anyone else think Castillo wears his shorts very high waisted? <<<<<<<<<<< I thought so too, and with his sock tucked into his shin pads he looked like a boxer. His goal was a peach so he's excused for dressing like Simon Cowel.

Quote from Fellaini....The £15m midfielder, who made his Everton début at Stoke, reckons his ex-teammates will raise their game in Europe, as they did against Liverpool. “Boloni knows how to motivate and he knows how to get players going for the big occasion," explained Fellaini. "He gets things going so the players do not fear anyone. They will not be worried about coming to Goodison Park and will fight to the last minute. “We will have to be on our guard to go through. I can’t play but I will be telling (the lads) to be very careful. They tried to spring a surprise against Liverpool and will want do the same against Everton.” .......Its vital we take a lead to Liege, but I hope the players don't feel too much pressure from the fans. Another great atmoshphere like Fiorentina with everyone right behind the team, I'm confident the boys can get the job done.

(Quote)<<<Not a great performance, but a good enough result, we are in sore need of some width though. The quicker Pienaar gets back the better>>> Agree with you Jamie I can't wait for Stevie to get back fit. We don't have enough width without him and we miss his energy. I love watching him play he's a dynamo always lively and often inventive. To think we payed 2.5 or whatever it was for him is quite astounding, when you consider what he brings to the team. I'm sad too that we've conceeded so many goal already this season, considering what a mean defence we had last season. But I'm not too worried that can't be put right. I'm certain we won't be the only team to struggle with Stokes missile launcher Delap. As the offside rule doesn't apply to throw ins. When they play away from home I won't be shocked to see the hording place two inches from the pitch.

I'd like to think we are fortunate to be playing Stoke after an international break. I'd imagine there are tougher fixtures we could have got after a two week gap between games. Stoke have got off to the best possible start. I dont expect us to recieve a friendly reception, but I think we've the strength & class enough within our side to nullify any threat they might pose. We certainly have enough attacking force to score agains't them.

wizzard_wallce 55 -:but i reckon this guy is goin nowhere. ihope he'll come good but he seems lazy; I remember everyone saying how lazy the yak was twelve months ago. Moyes seems to get the best out of these so called lazy players. I'm not sure what method he uses to pep them up, "perhaps red-bull" tongue in cheek!. Does it matter? The fact is Moyes has this ability and as one of you already mentioned. You never really know how a signing will turn out. Sometimes the most appealing signings are complete flops and the most unlikely absolute gems.

needs a hair cut

I think Moyes would like to go 442 anyway, but he needs the strength/quality in midfield to be able to do this and I'm not sure we have enough quality/balance at the moment to be able to play 442 anything like as effectively as 451. Moyes would also most likely want to loan out Jutkiewicz etc for some experience, whilst Vaughan is injury prone, Anichebe still raw and Baxter etc unproven. We need another class striker, I'm not sure whether this guy fits the bill but you can never have too much pace in your team. I'd still like us to sign someone like Zigic, someone with a bit of presence, a different option up front. well louis saha fits the bill. I'm hearing everywhere he's an Everton player. Got two players for the price of one SWP, I imagine we're paying less in wages to these two than citeh are to wright midget.

I have a sinking feeling this deal will be just as difficult, if it comes to that. But then all tranfers seem to have run into problems not just at Everton.

He was the first time we loaned him and will be again, but while efc ran around with their fingers stuck up their arses trying to sort out a deal he was sitting in the stands waiting to sign on, got fed up and fooked off on the next plane. As i have already said he had been here for 4 months but it took them till the last 2 days of the window to make their move, typical. I thought we did offer to buy him the 1st time he was on loan Licker. He opted for Champions League football at Valencia.

i have found some goals he has scored take a lloook Goal 1 Goal 2 Goal 3 Goal 4 On the evidence of this he can score with his left foot, right foot and his head. Can't really ask for more. Shame he's 3rd party owned. Can see that being a problem somewhere down the line.

hahaha doesnt matter at all. plus its chelsea's loss, not in terms of the player, but fuck they bought him for 21 million now they sell him for 8.5 three years later.. (although the difference of 12.5 million is probably like 5 bucks for them ) Man City can afford his £80 grand a week wages from that profit, I said he was all about the money why else would he have gone to Chelsea in the 1st place? All why didn't he not want to leave Chelsea? He didn't want to take a pay cut. I also said he wasn't worth 10 mil. I'd pay 7 max and pehaps 45 a week with a bonus for appearences. In my view thats as much as he's worth.

I can't understand all this fervour over Wright-Phillips. He is one of a long line of players who went to Stamford Bridge with pounds signs in their eyes, only to see their international career disintergrate whilst pocketing x amount a week to sit on the bench. If we did get SWP we would surely be helping him resurrect his international career. I never did quite understand why he turned down the gooners in favour of Chelsea. I thought at the time he was making a huge mistake, now he has to try and undo that catostrophic error and find a way to reverse the damage done to his England career. It won't be easy thats for sure, just ask Scott Parker.

I'm glad we're playing Pompey whilst kranjar is injured they aren't as big a threat when he's not playing.

So if we bought Wright Phillips for 11mil and it looks like M'bia could still come off if we meet the 7-10mil price tag. If we get those 2 and another striker then our team would look like. Howard Neville----------Jagielka------Yobo-------Lescott Wright Phillips----M'bia-----Pienaar-----Arteta -------------------------Cahill -------------------------Yakubu Bench: Turner, Baines, Hibbert, Osman, Vaughan, Anichebe, Another striker or Rodwell if we don't get one. I would be gutted if Everton paid 11mil for SWP, he may have been worth that a couple of years ago when he was playing week in week out at City and was being picked as a regular England international. However a few seasons warming the bench at Chelsea has seen him over taken at international level by Lennon and Bentley. I can't see him making his way back into the England team. Lennon out paces him and holds on to the ball better and Bentley is a better finisher and crosser of the ball. I like SWP his attitude and is first rate but he's just too easliy dispossessed. For sure I would not put Osman on the bench for him I would put SWP on the bench and bring him on late in the game and let him run at a tired defence. For this reason I wouldn't like to see us pay more than 7 mil at the absolute most.

I'm in no doubt Vagner Love could make an impact on the E.P.L. If Santa Cruz & Berbatov can take this league by storm then so can Love. As the great John Lennon once said "love is all you need." I don't mind much who we sign now mamma m'bia, Joao, Smudge, or Love as long as we sign someone before the start of the season to give the fans something to cheer about.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/f...all/7528579.stm It appears M'bia is indeed in Beijing with Cameroon. He was also part of the Cameroon side who won gold at Sydney 2000.

I like Leighton left foot, he should be given chance to prove himself. He's young and can only improve. We should withhold judgement until he's had an injury free run.

Licker thankyou for inviting me to join the fantasy league. As a women I don't think my football knowledge is quite good enough yet. I will have a proper read of it and decide. But if I don't take part myself this time I follow it with interest, and wish you and all the toffee talkers the very best of luck. Thankyou again and cheers for the info on Joao. 19.7 mil seems a lot for a 21 year old fringe international player. I don't think they want to sell him and that is why such a large amount has been put on him. What real experience does he have to warrent such a fee?

Travelling squad : Iain Turner, Tim Howard (joing squad in Chicago), Nuno Valente, Phil Neville, Joleon Lescott, Phil Jagielka, Leighton Baines, Mikel Arteta, Leon Osman, Steven Pienaar, Dan Gosling, Jack Rodwell, James Vaughan, Lukas Jutkiewicz, Yakubu. He wasn't on the list you see, I thought that was Jutkiewicz in the picture.