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DM, may I ask what you would prefer? You seem to be quite nasty to other people's posts. If I do not like a post or have trouble saying something that is not nasty, I simply don't post on it. I don't really understand why you play devil's advocate so much. You seem to criticise everyone but I have not yet read what you yourself would prefer. It is difficult to argue with you (in a friendly way) whan all I can find are your posts telling everyone else they are in the wrong. Tell us (without sarcasm if you can) what would be your ideal situation regarding the board, the manager, the team, the transfer situation and the stadium argument. We might agree but if not we can always argue about it.

You missed a name out. Peter Johnson, who initially brought out the idea of moving Everton out of the city in the first place.

The word hypocritical springs to mind a bit after reading some of his stuff. He seems (at least to me) to change his stance with every statement he makes. Is he like this in all fields or is it just EFC he is confusing the issue with? Sorry, perhaps this is the wrong forum to go down that road. I just wish I knew what was going on in his head.

Hmmm not very helpful was he? Also I found the following article on the Blue Kipper site I am not sure if it is allowed on here but if not I can edit it out at your request. Blues Shareholders Mark Grayson and Tony Bennett are believed to have acquired 20% of Shareholders support to call an EGM to get some answers over the Blues future. The proposed new Stadium, the debt at the Club and the lack of investment on the pitch are some of the issues the Shareholders believe need addressing. Answers are needed and the Blues hierarchy have twenty eight days to answer their request, and another twenty eight days to hold the EGM. Blues Shareholder Mark Grayson says: "Our primary concern is that we feel that the club promised a world class and effectively free stadium with the best transport links in the UK. We now know through the Tesco led planning application that the stadium will only be a 'mid level quality' stadium that could add a further £78m on to the existing debt of the club. Clearly the proposals do not reflect what the club promised prior to consulting fans on the issue. We are concerned that the proposals may be detrimental to the long term welfare of the club and we fail to see how these proposals will generate increased and sustainable revenue to support the manager and team building. We are concerned that the club will face an uncertain future should we relocate to Kirkby and believe that the proposed relocation is fraught with tremendous risk for very little return."

Thank god for that then eh?

OOPS Sorry Louis. I dunno how I missed that one. I do not mind if you close this topic down then. I will just locate a dark corner and hide.

Just because I am curious, and considering some of the topics here, I was wandering on the general thoughts surrounding the ground move amongst the people who use this site. The options are of course 1) Stay at Goodison (redevelope is included in this) 2) Go to Kirkby 3) Go to another site in the City. No need for long explanations. It is just to see how voting would be if we had the chance again. Put them in order of preference. For me the order would be. 1, 3, 2.

It is always the same. Do unto others before they do unto you. Then when they do bleat like a baby to the authorities. Saying that, Fergy has a record of doing this sort of thing and then sitting back with that damned annoying grin on his chops. As for Benitez......... well I do not want to get banned for voicing my thoughts on him.

We all have a favourite song, but that will change over time. What you like now will not always be your favourite. Much better to ask what songs you like or dislike. I actually do not like Bohemian Rhapsody although I do like a lot of Queen stuff. Not sure if I have an actual favourite at the moment though, there are a number of songs I like. I am not sure you would want a list.

I actually do not remember him in the Euros. Probably my fault for not taking much notice, but maybe if he was as good as that I would have remembered him? Just how good is he? Everton have had a lot of 'nearly men' in the past and in truth we do not want to be buying anymore deadwood just now as we can not afford it.

Oh yes I do not disagree with you there. My point is that he will not try to sign someone he can not afford. If he signs anyone it will be for the betterment of the squad, not just to increase numbers in it. Anyone can go out and buy a player. But it is not always possible to go out and buy a suitable player. If a suitable player is unavailable or too pricey then as much as I would like to see them at Goodison, I aplaud the fact that Moyes knows when not to buy. Would you like them to splash out £25 million for Berbatov (for example) and then find we are so short of cash we have to virtually sell the rest of the squad to clear the debt? Everton are not a wealthy club in comparison to many. All buying has to be done carefully. My point is that David Moyes knows how to manage this side of things far better than we do. If he can buy he will.

Heavy stuff. From that it looks like the battle lines have been drawn. With luck, Warren Bradley will win this one, he seems to be better informed. But in politics who knows what will happen.

I appreciate the opportunity to add a reply to this thread, and i thank you for reopening it. My reply is: I am not down hearted or filled with gloom. While I (like many others) would dearly love to see some activity in the transfer window, I accept the fact that David Moyes knows what he is doing better than I do. If it were not so then I would be manager of our great club. To just buy someone for the saqke of it is not right. Even a good player may not be suitable for Everton due to the fact that we may already have better players in that position. Or due to the fact that silly money is being asked. It would be wonderful if we were being linked to Ronaldo or Berbatov or whatever, but we need to be honest with ourselves. Everton can not afford to enter the hunt for really great well known players. I am sure Moyes has his eyes on more than a few players and he will dismiss them if they are not good enough or too expensive. His transfer dealings are a lot better than many other managers, so in my own humble opinion, just let him get on with it and see what happens. If he doesn't buy then he has decided not to. AND he knows what he is doing.

If it is available it needs to be done very soon. The funding I suspect will dry up when another city becomes European Capital of Culture.

I want to see him fit and playing for a couple of reasons. a) If he proves the doubters wrong we could have a great player in the team. If he proves the doubters right, at least he will be remembered and we may be able to offload him. c) We are not exactly well catered for with players, and no matter how far he may have sunk, he is better on the pitch in blue than just having 9 players start a game. OK ok I am pushing it a bit with the last point

I notice you say that only applies if Villa are willing to put money into the scheme. I am not at all sure I can see Everton pumping any money into that scheme.

He also claims to be an Evertonian as well as an MP. Surely if he was both he would want the club to remain in his constituency. I suspect that that letter was written at least a month ago and probably more. Besides he is a politician and I have never trusted them that much. (personal feelings)

Hello Mondo, we hear nothing either.. but we do have a rumour forum, will that do for you just now?

Ok Can I put in a quick post on here? Firstly I am a relative 'newbie' to the site so I can not comment on what it was like previously. Secondly I have been on a few sites over the years. There is not a lot wrong with this one that I can see, some sites are a lot worse I can assure you. Thirdly, being a Mod is not an easy job at the best of times, it is pretty thankless and you not only have to keep things moving and in order, you have to generate interest. To generate a thread to interest folks is not an easy task. (Yes I have been a mod on a number of sites) At this time of year many many many sites go into a sort of quiet period, you just have to push on through and hopefully things pick up soon. With a football site things generally tend to pick up after the start of the season. Frankly, and this is purely my own opinion, so feel free to disagree, this is an excellent site and very well done. It is informative in places, ridiculous in others, and there is always the opportunity to see a total muppet posting absolute rubbish, which in itself can be quite funny. (Yes I have posted absolute rubbish myself in the past and I expect I will be a muppet again in the future, nobody is perfect you know)

Of all the names mentioned Keane is the only one I rate...... and he is getting a bit long in the tooth now.

Going back to the houses mentioned earlier. I remember when LFC built the new Kemlin road stand there was a lot of people who lived there before they knocked down the houses. Nobody was forced out though. Liverpool merely bought up the property as it became available and when they had what they wanted they pressed ahead with the plans. Surely that is the same with Everton? I do not see people being forced out of their homes for the sake of a football stadium. People live there? Well ok so they do, but they will be asked to leave not forced to. Anyone who wishes to stay there will do so as far as I can see. And as already stated there are a lot of places around the ground anyway. However that is all beside the point. Does Everton have ownership, or the rights to, enough space around the ground at the moment? The longer it takes to gain this land, if Everton are to remain at Goodison, the longer it will be before we can rebuild Goodison. Be a bit pointless to rebuild the stadium piecemeal.

Oh dear, I feel sorry for both of them. I suspect this may have a bearing on Joe's playing. My thoughts go out to him and his family.

You may have a point there. We need the managing director of Boeing to take over, he has good sales acumen and can sell rubbish to the highest bidder.

I like Fernades myself. Ok he can be a bit hit and miss, but so were a few other players before Moyes got to work on them. I think he could do a really good job for Everton. He could also bomb badly. But my money would be on him doing well with a good bit of preseason and perhaps a kick up the backside. I am sure once his confidence is back he will be an asset. Yes ok I know there is going to be disagreement on this. I respect that.

Sounds delicious that