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Hello I cant say I am an an Everton fan but definetely I am an Everton sympathiser and supporter from Florence , Italy, probably one of the few in my country. I am since the 80's. Dont ask me why I did not choose to wear a Man United or Liverpool shirt as many usually do in Italy. I dont know...I simply liked the passion and the history of EFC. I often read this website but never wrote before. I just give you my opinion about this topic because , as I already said, I am often sorrounded by people wearing LFC shirts in my city, also when I attend the games of my local club, Fiorentina. I think that, despite the bigger amount of honours LFC have, the fact that they hold the name of the city of Liverpool is very relevant especially for the non British football fans who love following the EPL. The majority of people ignore that Everton is the first football team of Liverpool and you cant imagine how many times I have tried to explain it to my friends. So, even if we are in a better league position, it seems they remain more fashionable abroad. By the way I dont really care: I Iike Everton for the loyaly of the fans, who had many ups and down and never abandoned the club. When Fiorentina played at Goodison I was of course in the away end...never ever experienced such a huge noise before. I also visited Anfield for a champions league game liverpool-Fiorentina and the atmosphere was not so great although most of my friends were so excited and expected something special.... Italian fans are genuinely impressed by the myth of Anfield, the Kop and "You'll never walk alone" so LFC is admired and respected everywhere while Everton are not well known. good luck for a great season!

Very complicated to explain for my english...in few words: another compensation... another shame for our football and it was not the last one... just few years later we had the big scandal of referees better known as CALCIOPOLI. and there are still people here wondering why serie A is less attractive than premierleague and liga! we have to build a new good reputation.... and the lucky victory in the world cup 2006 cant cancel this situation.

thank you to everybody for welcoming me in your forum. yes it is correct. we went bankrupt in august 2002. The old AC Fiorentina died and we should have started a new life from non league divisions. But , as I already told in my previous post, Italy is a very strange country: the italian federation avoided bankrupt many times for AS Roma and SS Lazio: they had much more debts than us (they still have) but they were always saved. We went bankrupt and, honestly, it was the right decision, but the italian football federation wanted to give us a bonus, probably to compensate the difference with roman clubs, that can buy players thanks to the banks: so, we had the chance to start from the 4th league instead of some semi-professional divisions. We had to change name into FLORENTIA VIOLA but, after just 1 year nobody in this strange country seemed to care about our name and they allowed us to take our original name and all our trophies (not soo many... ) back home. We are now ACF FIORENTINA , there is just 1 F more than before and I still have to understand what this added F means! the year of the 4th league was very exciting: we played in very small towns and once, in a terrible december sunday, we had to help the local club stewards to take the snow out of the pitch very poor football but I was proud of my club anyway... similair situations happened to Napoli, Palermo, Torino. They just changed something (for example, the original AC Torino is now FC Torino) and they avoided to start from non-leagues... this is italy, the best place in the world to stay ....on holiday.... <_< Only the white-black club from Turin will never have financial problems ( they are owned by FIAT car , the most protected and powerful business of the country). Honestly, they have many things in common with your neighbours across the park: fans everywhere, (from norway too eh eh) but not so many in Turin, which is traditionally the city of TORINO.

Hello from Florence, Italy sorry If I break into your discussion but... As a Fiorentina fan, I'm very happy to be compared to Everton. It is a great honour because you have a great history and great fans. thanx to our uefa cup meeting 2 yrs ago, I had the chance to appreciate your supporting. I have never heard so much noise like I experienced at Goodison when you won 2-0 but we took the qualification after the pen. shootout, and many other Fiorentina fans think the same. I wish you good luck for this season: we finished 4th for the second consecutive time and it is a huge achievement because, like Everton, Fiorentina doesnt have the tansfert budget of the top 4 (AC milan, As Roma, Inter Milan and the scum: sorry but I dont write the name of the balck -white club from turin) so, lets hope you can do the same this year. sorry for my english and sorry for our terrible bad stadium where you had the disgrace to come 2 yrs ago... we would like to have a new one but here in Italy it is not easy to change for burocracy and bad politics and we dont know when it will be possible....