i do see your point in certain ways but he had alot more starts then vellios with not asmany goals to games, like i said if vellios keeps this form by the time he has played 27 games he would have the same amount of goals as beckford did in 34 so there goals to games ratio is nowhere near comparable so although beckford wasnt ready to lead the line it is not the same as tolis as he is a better goalscorer therefor what im tryin to say is just coz he wasnt ready doesnt mean tolis isnt either