Shukes

I would actually live to heat what really happened now he's gone. And again I reiterate...massive respect to Kev for not hanging his dirty washing out for all to see. Doesn't get enough credit for that.

Again...not disagreeing mate. I just said he wasn't refusing to play him, because he did play him. Maybe not enough, maybe not in the right position and maybe not in the right matches.....but he didn't refuse to play him.

It's like saying Linekers goals won us the double!

Lukaku's goals didn't keepers up. The team kept us up. And I don't for one second think that without Lukaku we would have played with ten men.

Just stating facts that's all. Opinion is one thing and that's fine. Facts are pretty much that though. I am not saying there wasn't any fall out and I'm not defending Martinez for it....no one needs to now. But I do try to keep it real. Fact is that he has started matches recently and he has also has substitute appearances in the other matches. That's all I am saying really.

He hasn't refused to play him. He's started a few matches recently. Too late though.

Agree with you Pad. But the question was who do we want as manager and o would choose Mourinho over De Boer if I had a choice. I agree with you though De Boer is more realistic.

Ahh thank God. I was really thinking hard about it haha

It does happen. Ferguson went to prison for assault. There have been many players charged with assault. There was a case a few years ago in ameteur football where a player had to pay compensation too. Not enough of it though.

Voted for Mourinho but don't expect it. Would be happy with De Boer.

Main concern is our home grown diamond doesn't seem to be in the pictures or video. That makes me feel uneasy. His body language has been off too. Hope I am reading into nothing.

Kits on OS. I like it. Pretty neat kit. Sorry on phone and not sure how to link.

Everton 6-0 Norwich Diamond Barkley hat trick!

He has bowed to a lot of public negativity. Your right he made changes against Swansea and we lost. Dropped Howard for Robles and we have fell apart. Not sure how the team has fared wirh each this season....but it feels worse second half. There's lots of things he has tried to change and I'm not sure if he is strong enough for hos own convictions. But yes we as fans must have had a say in this. Opposing fans talking about the dull atmosphere at Goodison, constant negativity on social media. But I do expect players to be able to rise above it and be counted. Bur it hasn't happened. Let's just end the season and concentrate on keeping our best players.

My problem with him is he is a luxury. Before he scored against Leicester I was thinking.... Here we go again, another chance and nothing to show...then he showed announce of effort, gets a break and scores. So frustrating. It's like cares more about his spat with Martinez than the fans he played for. Though to give him credit, he doesn't talk about it does he. He keeps what's happened quiet.

I just could take two Lukaku threads.

I wouldn't mind Pellegrini at all. Solid experienced manager with the profile that could bring in top players.

That would make sense. Everton usually do this kind of thing with an amount of respect.

I don't get this whole fitness thing. They don't look unfit to me at all. Look at the semi final, we were by far the more lively and fitter team in the second half. In fact most matches I watch sees us come to life with 15 minutes to go when we are 2-0 down. Read through the match threads and see how comments are written along the lines of...well it's too late to make an effort now! It's motivation for me. The players aren't motivated enough. Watch the body language of Jags, Baines and Robles....they look at thier own players with disbelief at times. Manager is No1 to blame...along with the pussy whipped players that need a cuddle and telling how great they are to be arsed.

Agree here. He can be amazing in small spells. But he can be dismal for bigger spells. Used to be my favourite player, now I'm just not sure I can trust him. A new manager might get through to him.

Hope he stays so this thread can continue. Got to be one of our busiest threads Everyone says it's the same boring stuff, yet they all seem to make a huge effort to keep it going strong. Roms like marmite.

50 shades of fking grey!

His missus just had a baby. Hope that settles him down and he gets his career back on track.

Jerry maguire. Show me... The arteta... money... Bill.

Sixth sense...I see dead people. As Ossie comes off the bench with us 2-0 down.