jamiemaher85 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I personally think that on paper we have the better advantage for this tie as a whole. We are going to your place with a great run of form and then take the 2nd leg at home. IMO we have much better attacking players than yopu do. Yakubu is a better striker than mutu, and mutu isn't even playing. Oh and i didn't predict a win in florence, i would be very happy for a scoring draw. I think people predicting us beating you by a big score at your place is silly, but I have confidence that we will see you away at Goodison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 (edited) on paper our defence is better in my opinion, and upfront we have Yakubu, I don't see where Fiorentina are supposedly stronger? They have a good goalie, midfield isn't really better than ours, arteta pienaar, cahill. I'm not saying we'll beat Fiorentina, but for you to say we're not as good on paper? We're both in similar positions in our respective leagues (ours being arguably harder) and we've both done well in europe. It should be an interesting affair, but I think we can win. Capello said it himself, Fiorentina need to be cautious about us. Edited March 5, 2008 by CraccerC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red star Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 on paper our defence is better in my opinion, and upfront we have Yakubu, I don't see where Fiorentina are supposedly stronger? They have a good goalie, midfield isn't really better than ours, arteta pienaar, cahill. I'm not saying we'll beat Fiorentina, but for you to say we're not as good on paper? We're both in similar positions in our respective leagues (ours being arguably harder) and we've both done well in europe. It should be an interesting affair, but I think we can win. Capello said it himself, Fiorentina need to be cautious about us. i THINK this is a "clash" of giants in fiorentina play my countrymen Kuzmanovic this is good player and very team work player, but we(everton) have yakubu, arteta, cahill. Everton must play strong in midfilder and i think everton have better defensive line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zequist Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I personally think that on paper we have the better advantage for this tie as a whole. We are going to your place with a great run of form and then take the 2nd leg at home. IMO we have much better attacking players than yopu do. Yakubu is a better striker than mutu, and mutu isn't even playing. Oh and i didn't predict a win in florence, i would be very happy for a scoring draw. I think people predicting us beating you by a big score at your place is silly, but I have confidence that we will see you away at Goodison. I agree with all of that, including the thought that it would be silly for anyone to expect another Brann-like blowout in this game, especially when nobody's scored more than two in any game against the Purple all season. I'd also be quite happy for a scoring draw. But it's not like the Fior. defense is impregnable at home...visitors who have scored two goals there and won this season include Udinese and Lazio, and with a healthy midfield (which we finally have again) we're more dangerous going forward than either of those teams. Also worth pointing out that even though F. never yield more than two, they usually give away at least one. They've played 38 matches this season and kept 11 clean sheets (29% of their games), whereas we've played 42 matches and kept 17 clean sheets (40% of our games). They've scored 14 in their last 10 games in all competitions, but they've also surrendered 10 goals. We've scored 17 in our last ten games and surrendered only 4, and that includes the stretch of 3 or 4 games where we barely had enough midfielders to put a team together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/mar5p.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 (edited) "We are encountering a side that is perhaps among the best in Europe,” said the Viola boss Wow. Now that is a real compliment. I never thought that I would hear that said about us. Edited March 5, 2008 by jamiemaher85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J*A*C*K*E*L*Z Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 No mention of an fernandes injury and also no sign of him in the squad for the pompey game and he hasnt even gone to italy either ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zequist Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 (edited) Well, Roma managed to pull the upset, although as I noted in another thread, Real and Barca aren't the unbeatable juggernauts of previous seasons either. Hopefully if there's any other Italian upset in the next two weeks it comes courtesy of Inter. Anyway, here's an interesting "meet Fiorentina, and take them lightly at your peril" article http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story...os1&cc=5901 Edited March 5, 2008 by JD in DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMorrison183 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 2-1 to us, Lescott and the Yak to put us in good shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Does anyone know why Manny isn't in the squad for tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Does anyone know why Manny isn't in the squad for tonight? I assume it's because of the injury that forced him off against City. Well, that's what it will be said to be probably, but more than likely because he's been rubbish so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 I assume it's because of the injury that forced him off against City. Well, that's what it will be said to be probably, but more than likely because he's been rubbish so far. He's not listed as injured on the OS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluenose Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 personally i would like us to keep a clean sheet. whether that be 1-0 3-0 or even 0-0. preferably score a vital away goal but i would be happy if we got a boring 0-0 draw and then beat em at Goodison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cismo Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Good luck today. I hope this match not to be the most important of the season,jejeje. It´s a pity I can´t see it tonight. Bring the best score ( 0-5 perhaps? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlmc25 Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 He's not listed as injured on the OS. it did say in the Daily Post that he had a groin strain, personally I'm just happy that he can't play, whatever the reason - we have too many big/crucial games coming up and we just can't risk playing Fernandez unless we physically have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted March 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Does anyone know why Manny isn't in the squad for tonight? Has'nt earned his place yet imo, injured or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 How do you know that manny isn't a squad? I havn't seen it released anywhere. According to BBC he has travelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted March 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Probably only paper talk so they just name the whole squad but fernandes is in this squad. .......... Midfielder Mikel Arteta is Everton’s only doubt for tomorrow’s UEFA Cup last-16 tie against Fiorentina in Italy. The Spaniard travelled to Florence after receiving treatment in Spain but manager David Moyes admits he is by no means guaranteed a place in the squad. However, with the rest of his players available Moyes must decide whether to change his winning line-up from Sunday’s success over Portsmouth. Provisional squad: Howard, Hibbert, Neville, Yobo, Jagielka, Valente, Baines, Lescott, Carsley, Cahill, Osman, Pienaar, Fernandes, Arteta, Johnson, Yakubu, Anichebe, Vaughan, Wessels. Tho none of the fringe reserve players are mentioned, although they are named in the EUFA SQUAD.So basicly its just a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomness Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 being kind, but fernandes suffering from 2nd season syndrome, when he came back we were all expecting him to be godlike, and he's cracked. again that being kind, but fernandes' troubles are for another thread, dont change a winning team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 I'd still have him on the bench. At least it would be a midfield option. Better than just having 3 strikers on the bench like we did against pompey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everton_Worshiper Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 3-1 to us tonight, my bet for the evening anyway....first scorer anyone? Might have a punt at Lescott getting it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 How do you know that manny isn't a squad? I havn't seen it released anywhere. According to BBC he has travelled. The squad from the OS... Everton squad: Tim Howard, Iain Turner, Stefan Wessels, Tony Hibbert, Phil Neville, Joleon Lescott, Joseph Yobo, Phil Jagielka, Leighton Baines, Mikel Arteta, Leon Osman, Lee Carsley, Tim Cahill, Steven Pienaar, Yakubu, Victor Anichebe, Andrew Johnson, Dan Gosling, Jack Rodwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiemaher85 Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 3-1 to us tonight, my bet for the evening anyway....first scorer anyone? Might have a punt at Lescott getting it.... If we score three tonight ill eat my hat. I doubt we'll see a high scoring affair As for first scorer, id guess at cahill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 (edited) I'm just happy that he can't play, whatever the reason - we have too many big/crucial games coming up and we just can't risk playing Fernandez unless we physically have to. what a load of shit, its like saying we cant risk neville in midfield, or hibbert at rightback, manny is a class player but certain fans are against him since he joined valencia over us. Edited March 6, 2008 by Blue4Ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everton_Worshiper Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 what a load of shit, its like saying we cant risk neville in midfield, or hibbert at rightback, manny is a class player but certain fans are against him since he joined valencia over us. So you are saying he has played well this season? We should be pushing a permie contract under his nose? I don't think so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everton_Worshiper Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 If we score three tonight ill eat my hat. I doubt we'll see a high scoring affair As for first scorer, id guess at cahill Hey I have got the last 4 games with the correct score Not sure on this one though as they will be tough, but I am optimistic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 slightly nervous about tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 slightly nervous about tonight Ditto. I just want it to hurry up and get here now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlmc25 Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 what a load of shit, its like saying we cant risk neville in midfield, or hibbert at rightback, manny is a class player but certain fans are against him since he joined valencia over us. no it isn't, you can rely on Neville and Hibbert to give 100% and usually not let anyone down. Ok Neville may not be the best passer of a ball in midfield (and ditto Hibbert at RB) but he can tackle and leave the passing to others (and we now do have others who can pass the ball). Fernandez looks a liability at the present time, I personally don't want him to play and cost us either the UEFA cup or 4th place in the league just because he's 'talented.' On present Fernandez form I'd probably stick Hibbert in midfield ahead of him. We don't need him on the bench either, if Neville is RB he can come into midfield if needed, if Neville is in midfield then we can change to 442 and bring on AJ/Anichebe/Vaughan. If a footballer doesn't have the right mentality then he's virtually useless. He's been a total waste of space, just deal with it rather than slagging off the likes of Neville - a guy who does put his best in and shows some pride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 no it isn't, you can rely on Neville and Hibbert to give 100% and usually not let anyone down. Ok Neville may not be the best passer of a ball in midfield (and ditto Hibbert at RB) but he can tackle and leave the passing to others (and we now do have others who can pass the ball). Fernandez looks a liability at the present time, I personally don't want him to play and cost us either the UEFA cup or 4th place in the league just because he's 'talented.' On present Fernandez form I'd probably stick Hibbert in midfield ahead of him. We don't need him on the bench either, if Neville is RB he can come into midfield if needed, if Neville is in midfield then we can change to 442 and bring on AJ/Anichebe/Vaughan. If a footballer doesn't have the right mentality then he's virtually useless. He's been a total waste of space, just deal with it rather than slagging off the likes of Neville - a guy who does put his best in and shows some pride. totally agree with you there carl. i was well excited when he came back, i dont care if he went to valencia or not, the point is he has been garbage since he came back! on current form i really hope we dont sign him, id love nothing more than him to play tonight and run the show, but i doubt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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