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Read so little nowadays but just finished Jenson Button's autobiography; not exactly taxing and it only took three days (started on the plane) but very enjoyable. Love the style it's written in, no doubt by a "ghost", but it's just the way I like to write. Comes across the way he does in person, a really nice bloke, and makes no secret of the fact that he likes a drink:); at the same time being a consummate pro when it's needed. Not a seriously bad word to say about anybody, Hamilton included; he talks about fall outs but then qualifies them by saying he understands or that he and "x" ended up friends. Exception being Jackie Stewart who was scathing in his criticism when JB got his first F1 drive,  ‘I don’t believe you can go straight from kindergarten to university’ he said; he doesn't get another mention in the book after that's quoted.

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I am reading the riot act to the hospital and the dentist at the moment.  They have both cancelled appointments over the past two days and I am going to have a miserable Christmas as a result.

In the way it is meant, I am reading a few sci-fi novels as it is close to Christmas.

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Just finished 'The Gigante'.  This is the story of John Charles transfer from Leeds United to Juventus in 1957.  Good read which covers the politics of the transfer and the difficulties faced by John Charles and his family in moving to a strange country. Second half of the book covers his first season in Italian football when Juventus went from relegation candidates to league winners. John Charles scored 28 goals in spite of playing several games in defence.  Well researched by author Robert Endeacott and published by Ockley books.

PS  I am not on commission!😀 (though I do get a mention in 'Acknowledgements')

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12 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

Dune.  Read the first one and now i'm on book 4 of 6 in the series.  wonderful books, i can see where star wars stole a bunch of stuff from this (it predates star wars)

I didn’t get past the initial trilogy but I was obsessed with it. Utterly stunning piece of literature. I’d love to see it remade as films 

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3 hours ago, Matt said:

I didn’t get past the initial trilogy but I was obsessed with it. Utterly stunning piece of literature. I’d love to see it remade as films 

It is, November is the first movie.  Honestly the dialogue and inner dialogue is so deep in the books (1000 pages!) I’m not expecting much movie wise.  

 

I dont think there was a trilogy.  It’s always been 6 books, that’s how many he finished before he died.  Like you say I am obsessed as well.  I started 2 weeks ago and I have been reading them non stop.  He is a wonderful writer that really takes you into the mind of each character.

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22 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

It is, November is the first movie.  Honestly the dialogue and inner dialogue is so deep in the books (1000 pages!) I’m not expecting much movie wise.  

 

I dont think there was a trilogy.  It’s always been 6 books, that’s how many he finished before he died.  Like you say I am obsessed as well.  I started 2 weeks ago and I have been reading them non stop.  He is a wonderful writer that really takes you into the mind of each character.

There was an initial trilogy (Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune), which then got expanded. There’s a load of prequels written by his son (I think) too, doing history on the houses etc  

What impressed me most was the detail in that reality; languages, economics, ecology on top of the storyline... it’s mind blowing 

thanks for the heads up on the film. Cant be worse that the 80s one! The sci-fi channels series were quite good though considering a massively limited budget (if I remember correctly)

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14 minutes ago, Matt said:

There was an initial trilogy (Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune), which then got expanded. There’s a load of prequels written by his son (I think) too, doing history on the houses etc  

What impressed me most was the detail in that reality; languages, economics, ecology on top of the storyline... it’s mind blowing 

thanks for the heads up on the film. Cant be worse that the 80s one! The sci-fi channels series were quite good though considering a massively limited budget (if I remember correctly)

Ah I didn’t know that.  For the record book 2 was not great but books 1 and 3 were excellent.  Book 4 is right up there with 1 and 3 so far I’m halfway through.  

 

Yeah im going to pass on the sons writing, just want to read the main series and then hope the movies are decent.

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1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said:

Ah I didn’t know that.  For the record book 2 was not great but books 1 and 3 were excellent.  Book 4 is right up there with 1 and 3 so far I’m halfway through.  

 

Yeah im going to pass on the sons writing, just want to read the main series and then hope the movies are decent.

The history of the Harkonnen was quite interesting, give a lot of insight. I’ll have a look for the 4-5th books :) 

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25 minutes ago, rubecula said:

my favourite pastime is reading  or it was when my eyes were ok  sadly after  the cataract surgery I can not do it now.

 

Audiobook mate. It can’t be the same but you could at least enjoy a new story

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oddly I can see well enough to read if the book is far enough away and the letters are big enough  lol  but the idea of audiobooks I  good  if I can try it out  I will let you know.

 

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12 minutes ago, rubecula said:

oddly I can see well enough to read if the book is far enough away and the letters are big enough  lol  but the idea of audiobooks I  good  if I can try it out  I will let you know.

 

i have a friend that loves to read but prefers audiobooks.  if it's a well known book they get famous voice actors to do the parts and they do all the parts in different voices so it sounds like different people.  supposed to be very well put together.  i haven't heard one myself, i still enjoy the tactile old paperback :)

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3 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

i have a friend that loves to read but prefers audiobooks.  if it's a well known book they get famous voice actors to do the parts and they do all the parts in different voices so it sounds like different people.  supposed to be very well put together.  i haven't heard one myself, i still enjoy the tactile old paperback :)

thanks for that info mjb

 

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13 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

i have a friend that loves to read but prefers audiobooks.  if it's a well known book they get famous voice actors to do the parts and they do all the parts in different voices so it sounds like different people.  supposed to be very well put together.  i haven't heard one myself, i still enjoy the tactile old paperback :)

I recorded loads back in their early days:). Very enjoyable.

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I never read books usually but I started Reading one of my Crimbo prezzies "Born not manufactured".  Tells  stories about what went on behind the scenes at Everton, interviews and stories about the players and Managers. Probably suit the older members who would remember most of the players, it goes  back over 50 years and starts in the Catterick period and works its way up.  I haven't read a book since Tom Browns Schooldays when I was a schoolboy but I'm hooked on this one.

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12 hours ago, Bill said:

I never read books usually but I started Reading one of my Crimbo prezzies "Born not manufactured".  Tells  stories about what went on behind the scenes at Everton, interviews and stories about the players and Managers. Probably suit the older members who would remember most of the players, it goes  back over 50 years and starts in the Catterick period and works its way up.  I haven't read a book since Tom Browns Schooldays when I was a schoolboy but I'm hooked on this one.

Just got the Kindle version for £1.99:)

Looks good Bill, thanks for the recommendation.

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You'll know all the players involved Mike, its great reading and theres a special chapter on Dixie. One thing I found interesting was after being the first player to wear the number nine shirt ( cup final 1933 ) he never ever wore it again for Everton.

One for the Quizmaster's

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2 hours ago, Bill said:

You'll know all the players involved Mike, its great reading and theres a special chapter on Dixie. One thing I found interesting was after being the first player to wear the number nine shirt ( cup final 1933 ) he never ever wore it again for Everton.

One for the Quizmaster's

Just read the first two chapters which included his first meeting with Shankly, hilarious😂

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1 hour ago, Matt said:

Dune is one of the greatest, most underrated stories of all time. 

I bought it not too long ago but am having trouble motivating myself to read knowing I'm going to lose a lot of time doing so. 

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7 minutes ago, Sibdane said:

I bought it not too long ago but am having trouble motivating myself to read knowing I'm going to lose a lot of time doing so. 

it goes quick.  i knew almost nothing going in and finished the first book in 3 days and purchased the rest of the series immediately after.  wonderful twists and turns in those books.  i enjoyed the ride.  probably will read them again next year.

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6 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

it goes quick.  i knew almost nothing going in and finished the first book in 3 days and purchased the rest of the series immediately after.  wonderful twists and turns in those books.  i enjoyed the ride.  probably will read them again next year.

This. I’ve never been a big reader but I flew through the first few books. 
 

speaking of big books, I’ve nailed 200 pages in a couple of days of Leviathan Awakes. It helps having watched The Expanse and loving it, but the book is quite different in the way the story is told 

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The Republic of Pirates - Colin Woodard

 

Non-Fiction account of the free republic of the Bahamas owned and operated by Pirates during the 1700's.  Pretty crazy that Pirates had more humanity and compassion to their people than the British/French/Spanish at the time.  

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On 07/04/2020 at 17:31, markjazzbassist said:

Pretty crazy that Pirates had more humanity and compassion to their people than the British/French/Spanish at the time.  

Think Genghis Khan had more compassion than us colonial powers did back then; sounds an interesting read, might download the kindle.

Think I'm going to read Catch-22 for the zillionth time.

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9 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Think Genghis Khan had more compassion than us colonial powers did back then; sounds an interesting read, might download the kindle.

Think I'm going to read Catch-22 for the zillionth time.

Catch 22 had me laughing hysterically in parts but I’ve never got half way through because it’s just so hard to follow most of the time

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4 minutes ago, Matt said:

Catch 22 had me laughing hysterically in parts but I’ve never got half way through because it’s just so hard to follow most of the time

It's worth the effort Matt.

Understand the problem though, my dad tried to read it numerous times and never got through it.

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53 minutes ago, MikeO said:

It's worth the effort Matt.

Understand the problem though, my dad tried to read it numerous times and never got through it.

I feel like we’ve had this discussion  every time you mention the book!

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3 hours ago, MikeO said:

It's worth the effort Matt.

Understand the problem though, my dad tried to read it numerous times and never got through it.

Compared to Finnegan's Wake, its an easy read. And, unlike Finnegan's Wake, it really is worth it!

Had a profound effect on me growing up - inventive, surreal, memorable characters and situations, hugely funny and tragic. For many years I thought I was Yossarian. I enjoyed Something Happened by JH, too.

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On 30/12/2019 at 23:27, TallPaul1878 said:

I'm completely converted to audio books. 

What I would suggest though is to research the narrators. I got a book that was narrated very well but with a very heavy American accent that I could not quite place. It irritated me throughout. It's unfortunate but some accents just grate on different people and it's difficult to tolerate for 8 hours of listening. 

Agree with both points here, think I will keep reading fiction in print but have completely swapped to Audible for non fiction it's just so much more convenient, in the car or exercising you get through so much more and I concentrate much better when I'm moving.

With regards the accents my pet hate has become the authors reading them themselves rather than a professional narrator, I find it something akin to that feeling of not wanting to read the book of something after you've already seen the movie because you tend to imagine the movie rather than imagine your own version.

Have just finished The Madness of Crowds : Gender, Race and Identity by Douglas Murray which he narrates and I found mildly irritating at first as his politics already grate on me, but also made me laugh out loud a few times.

Just started Jesus, Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (And Why We Don't Know About Them) By new testament scholar Bart Ehrman, very interesting for anyone with a past or present interest in the origins of Christianity.

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On 18/04/2020 at 16:55, MikeO said:

Think I'm going to read Catch-22 for the zillionth time.

If you love Catch-22, I would also recommend 'A confederacy of dunces' by John Kennedy Toole.  It's the only time I ever felt reading anything that came close to the brilliance of Catch-22.

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2 hours ago, TallPaul1878 said:

Not reading but listening on audible.

Having finished Dune last year and recently finished the Necronomicon by HP Lovecraft I'm back with the Dune series.

Dune Dark Messiah. I absolutely love these books. They're effectively parodying the world's dependence upon crude oil but in the books it is a fantastical drug called melange that provides prescient powers. Even the planet Arrakis sounds like Iraq and there are many Arabian and Persian influences.

After this I have Children of Dune as well as the first book in the Sharpe series, along with the entire collection of Sherlock Holmes to complete.

I much prefer the classics.

I read all the books the original author wrote (7 I believe?), amazing series and I agree about the politics.  I thought they were sci-fi ala Star Wars but it’s more political maneuvering and palace intrigue mixed with sci-fi which caught me off guard but I really loved it.  Some of the books I was binge reading and finishing 700-800 pages in a week, I just couldn’t put them down.  I think I read all 7 in a month.  

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