rowlo-efc Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Scotland has called Naysmith to international duty because he is fit... the guy has played 5mins of football since his horrific injury - - and he gets a call up. Scotland must be soooooo desparate!! Madness surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comeonblueboys Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Madness? Or is it just that Walter Smith is Scotland manager? The man who thought that Naysmith was so good he could let Michael Ball go to Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fozzie22 Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Madness? Or is it just that Walter Smith is Scotland manager? The man who thought that Naysmith was so good he could let Michael Ball go to Rangers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Scotland has called Naysmith to international duty because he is fit... the guy has played 5mins of football since his horrific injury - - and he gets a call up. Scotland must be soooooo desparate!! Madness surely? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> its ok I can field this one rowlo.... .... ....... .... ...... ..... ..... ..... .... ..... SCOTLAND ARE SHIT AND ARE MOSTLY INBREDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 No offence to any scottish ppl, you're ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Their was a time when the Scottish national side were Household names known to most everyone. Now unless your an avid Highland League's Devotee, you browse through their squad & have honestly hardly if ever heard of any more than if many of them !!!. Bosman was not kind to the state of International side's Scotland can now field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBird Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Aye Pat but there was also a time when you could name every non-british player in the premiership. That has been the downfall of Scottish and to some extent Welsh football. The few players they have are not getting the chances that they used to in the top division. It hasn't affected england so badly due to higher numbers of quality players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Yeh Mate I can recall when the name Arnold Muhren was tropically exotic...& an overseas player was for the most part form Ireland..!!! Times have changed. To the betterment of some, but to the dettriment of many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBird Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Aye tams like Ivory Coast and Ghana as well as the east europeans and the Norgies have benefitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fozzie22 Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Yeh Mate I can recall when the name Arnold Muhren was tropically exotic...& an overseas player was for the most part form Ireland..!!! Times have changed. To the betterment of some, but to the dettriment of many. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
java2001e Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Their was a time when the Scottish national side were Household names known to most everyone.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> quite a few of their best have played for us! do yo uthink that the 2 team dominance in scottish football over the decades has harmed their game. i dont think i'd be bothered if the same 2 sides won everything every season! and is this limited variety becoming part of the english game today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fozzie22 Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 quite a few of their best have played for us! do yo uthink that the 2 team dominance in scottish football over the decades has harmed their game. i dont think i'd be bothered if the same 2 sides won everything every season! and is this limited variety becoming part of the english game today? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 It's not just the two top sides, even Division 1 sides are lttered with unprenouncable names...& I dont mean Heamish Arbroth Mc'Sporen etc. Just a quick shuffle thru the Beebs squads, for recent Scotch Prem League fixtures is enough evidence of where the prob's lye. Without even touching the lower divisons & not Inc Celtic & Rangers..here is 50 + places scottish players no longer occupy..!!! We can sustain this, a small league with a small pool of local players simply can not. 50 + Reasons for scttish National teams demise Aberdeen - Snoyl, Severinn, Considine. Dunfermline - Labonte, Daquin, Makel, Gunlaugsson, Tarachulski. Falkirk - Lecsinel, Rodriguez, Santos, Moutinho. Dundee Utd - Brebner, Fernandez, Ogunmade, Lau, Inverness Ct - Golabek, Parrat, Dargo. Hearts - M'Bohli, Lindrom, Bearsa, Forker, Fyssas, Gonclaves, Petras, Aquiir,Besliga,Camazola,Cesnauskis, Kizys, Mikoulinias, Skacel,Bednar, janauskaus, Makela, Pospisil, Thoransson. Motherwell - Hammel, Letitch, Faoran, Themues. Kilmarnock - Fontaine, Fotakis, Invincble,Skora, Di Giaconno. Livingston - Dorado,Vincenze,Nouma, Perreira. Hibs - Malkowski, Konde, Beuzilin, Tomatula, Konte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowlo-efc Posted February 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Think logically - home grown talent costs a lot of money... you have to nurture them train them teach them show them pay for them! plus home grown talent always ask for more wages. Foreign players cost of nurturing them, training them, teaching them, teaching them how to deal with the media etc.etc. is already paid... no investment but you get the player - thats worth a lot more than the transfer fee that you will pay for a player. So lower clubs and skint clubs benefit more by buying players abroad than developing their own (especially if they turn out shite!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBird Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 You are right Rowlo that is why the academies are usually the first things to go when cost cutting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowlo-efc Posted February 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 You are right Rowlo that is why the academies are usually the first things to go when cost cutting! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep - they cost too much hard cash and the results a club gets from them is usually shit... Only really United and the RS that have produced anything decent over the last decade. Okay we have had rooney and we got £20m for him - but we also invested in all his youth team mates (who are now emptying bins) and the likes of Daniel Fox, Tony Gerrard, Gavin McCann, John Connors, Peter Hill, Guillaime Plessis - all made headlines, but never featured. RS have had Fowler, Mcmanamanananaman, Owen, Gerrard... Man UTd - butt, scholes, beckham, giggs, fletcher, O'shea, etc.etc. When you produce this many 'first teamers' you can only profit. But one decent player every other year is not good enough to justify the cost of an academy - especially if your not a prem club or do not have the same cash as the english game (i.e. Scotland). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
java2001e Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) Yep - they cost too much hard cash and the results a club gets from them is usually shit... Only really United and the RS that have produced anything decent over the last decade. tony hibbert, david unsworth, francis jeffers, leon osman, & off course rooney. ALL recent academy products. Promising youngsters on the current payroll from the academy nclude, Mark hughes currently captain of the reserve side. Patrick Boyle, Laurence Wilson, James Vaughn Edited February 23, 2006 by java2001e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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