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“We can’t hide the fact that we need new players. Everybody knows it. We have to get five or six players in before the season starts.”

 

When asked if he could see any imminent movement in the transfer market - Sporting Lisbon’s Joao Moutinho tops the wanted list - Moyes replied: “Not at the moment, no. We are in a poor, poor situation regarding going forward.”

 

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/...00252-21440841/

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:huh:

 

this is now very worrying, especially seeing as this is coming from moyes. we need to be going forward with signings, hopefully we can get somebody to come to everton asap

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Don't blame it at all to be honest.

 

IF DM leaves can then see a few of the other players wanting to leave. Arteta has said yesterday that he wants to stay but can you see that if DM goes.

 

If he does go who they going to get in to replace him with no funds to spend?

 

Worrying times ahead maybe (like we say about this time every transfer window)

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“Not at the moment, no. We are in a poor, poor situation regarding going forward.”

 

seems a very odd response to....." are you going to sign anyone in the near future"

 

Ill bet its been twisted........ ALOT

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I think he's spouting off after a poor perfomrance. I can't see how things would have changed so drastically.

We were all getting excited yesterday now we're all doom and gloom, the joys of being a blue.

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Everybody/s working themselves into a frenzy, i think it will come good before the season starts. :)

 

Another quote from Moyes after the game in America. ....

 

“We take very few positives, only Leon Osman’s performance really,” said Moyes.

 

Its so good to have the bread and butter players who will perform every time they pull the shirt on. Good on yer Leon.

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Normally I am trying to cool Marks jets when he gets worried about lack of movement in the transfer windows, but on this score I am not a happy bunny right now. The likes of Man City, Spurs and even sunderland are all spending money like a pissed sailor on shore leave and our lack of ambition and money is a great concern to me. We need to bolster and now so any players we do bring in will have at least a couple of weeks to find their feet, the thought of tackling the EUFA Cup with our minimal squad has my blood running cold.

 

ATB

 

Mac

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With each statement or soundbite coming from the club making these sorts of noises the bargaining position goes to the selling club, pushing prices up further.

Moyes has gone from 'would like' 5 or 6 new players to 'need' 5 or 6 new players, quite quickly.

 

Not a good sign. There's a lot of weight to the Green wanting out story, he is pissed off because his name was thrown into the fatpants leaving story by the bbc, he has only ever wanted to be in the shadows at everton, no more.

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The following is a post on another forum, I've tidied it up a bit:

 

Keith Wyness met Philip Green sometime ago- his figures 'didn't add up' (Keith Wyness') and the meeting lasted under 10 minutes in London.

 

Keith Wyness told Bill Kenwright that money would be available for transfers, Philip Green and Bill Kenwright have had words about this and once the money from Keith Wyness was not likely to appear he left.

 

Philip Green is livid about 'certain accounting procedures' under the Keith Wyness tenure and is also livid Bill Kenwright did not tell him, his trust is dissolving rapidly.

 

David Moyes thought that the McFadden and AJ money was straight into the transfer budget - It wasn't. Its to cover the shortfall. So Bill Kenwright has asked Philip Green to help - and Philip Green has told him no chance as feels cheated.

 

We have practically zero in the way of assets and our only hope of borrowing is benefactor/mates loans- we now have no more of these and the banks won't touch us.

 

There's a possibility that Philip Green will take equity for monies owed but Bill Kenwright is loathe to loosen up his share.

 

David Moyes has given the club until Aug 31 to sort out money for transfers - both immediate and money for January window, he wants assurances this will never happen again.

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FFS it's just another post from another fan.........dont fall for the doom and gloom being spread by KEIOC supporters.... they are just trying to keep their pedal on the gas... flaming the fires of a bad situation within Goodison and hoping to spread more untrust about the Everton board

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FFS it's just another post from another fan.........dont fall for the doom and gloom being spread by KEIOC supporters.... they are just trying to keep their pedal on the gas... flaming the fires of a bad situation within Goodison and hoping to spread more untrust about the Everton board

 

 

more untrust of the Everon board? Really at this moment in time? Surely not eh :D

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Its time Mr Kenwright puts the club up for sale, and to do it in public, with meaning. This summer is being pissed away, because it looks like were skint, and i cant for the world understand why, in this age of Premier League clubs having spending power bigger than any, we are falling behind off the pitch, depsite the work of Moyes on it. We are being run into the ground. Everythings on the never never, we've sold all the assets off, to fund loans so BK can keep control. People argue against foreign owners, well look what a blue is doing to the club, thank the lord we have David Moyes, because if he does fuck off, we may face an uncertain future. Everton for change now!!

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I know where Louis took the cut/paste from and I can assure you that the source is, unfortunately given the write-up, a respected source.

 

Sorry, I am usually a "glass more than half full" person, but am concerned at some of the shenanigans.

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For me there is no moke without fire.

 

Something is happening behind the scenes somewhere along the lines things are going to blow up in our face.

 

\we have less numbers now than we did aat the end of last season and even then we knew we had a small squad.

 

If you don;t get a good start to the season it can mean you struggle for the rest of it (just look at when we got into the Champs league)

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moyes has been terribly misquoted by the echo!

he was asked about the squad, he was saying we are short going forward, as in short of attacking players!

 

hopefully this problem with Green will end with him being in control.

 

wasnt green one of the people who loaned BK the money to buy the club in the first place?

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Green at heart of Everton battle

Robert Lea, Evening Standard

 

Billionaire rag trader Sir Philip Green is the secret power broker in the bitter, multi-million-pound struggle for control of Everton Football Club, Green played a major role in the acquisition of a key 23% stake in the Merseyside club by Planet Hollywood tycoon Robert Earl from Everton board member Paul Gregg, the cinemas and leisure multi-millionare.

 

However, it is understood Green's involvement in the deal - at a time of unprecedented interest in the ownership of top Premiership clubs - is just the culmination of a longrunning relationship with Everton's other major minority shareholder, impresario Bill Kenwright..

Green admitted to the Standard: "Paul Gregg's stake in Everton was offered to me. I have always made it clear that I do

not want to own a football club so I introduced Robert Earl, a good friend of mine. It is no secret that Bill Kenwright is a good friend of mine too'

Evertonians are horrified that a king-making stake in the club has seen sold to a self-confessed Tottenham Hotspur supporter, and they have until now been unaware of Green's role in the deal-doing of club chairman Kenwright.

 

Green's involvement at Everton was first revealed by the Standard in the summer, but the retailer, who yesterday reported a slump in profits at his Arcadia High Street empire, has previously denied any interest, even telling the Daily Telegraph this week: 'It's nothing to do with me.'

 

The Everton power struggle comes at a time of massive takeover action at the top of the game.

The acquisition of 23% of Everton for around £9m by the mysterious special purpose vehicle BCR Sports which is being fronted by Earl, values the club at around £80m including debt.

 

Analysts reckon that Everton boardroom infighting - which has seen one-time friends Kenwright and Gregg part company as sworn enemies - have helped to stall any attempts to revive the club's fortunes.

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Here's another rumour to help you sleep..

 

Wyness never resigned. Bill got a phone call late last week from an agent who said what the #### is going on at everton, ive got Wyness ringing me asking about players but not for everton but for Majorca. Bill didnt know what he was on about but hit the roof and called Wyness were the truth came out, seems he was doing it from his everton office too, Bill told him to clear his desk and #### off. So Bill being Bill didnt want the shit to hit the fan with the fans already mad about the move plus no signings ect, so he told people that Wyness resigned. But his big mistake was telling Earl who was putting the money up for moutino that Wyness had resigned to take another job. Now over the weekend Earl has since found out from his own sources the truth, he went mad about Bill lying to him and withdrew the Moutino money.

 

Moyes is obviously upset about whats been going on and has told people that he's near the end and is thinking of walking. he's also been told that the Johnson move looks like it could collapse because of a knee injury. if the deal doesn't go through all we have to spend now that Earl has withdraw funds is £7 million. Moyes will give it until the end of august to see what happens but if things stay as they are right now then he's gone. The players were told by moyes today at meeting whats going on, they are not happy about going into the season with just kids as back up.

 

dont know what else to add its knocked me for 6 but i do believe it...

 

http://members.boardhost.com/peoplesforum/...1217543543.html

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you seem to quote these rumors with a big fat smile on your face louise......

 

If our club falls on its arse ill blame people like you..............

 

because that';s the right thing to do? because it's his fault? and that it has nothing to do with mismanagement of the highest order by the departed CEO, board etc?

 

what's next, you shouting it was the Warriors that shot Sirus??

 

be more apt :rolleyes:

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Please come out and make a statement Everton, we're spouting the People's Club motto at every opportunity so act like it and give us some bloody clarity :angry:

 

For me thats the most worrying thing. This is the perfect time for the board to come out and reassure fans that there isn't a problem, that we are moving in the direction or we're at least handling the situation ad it won't disturb the plans for this season but nothing.

It's so confusing :unsure:

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No its not directly his fault................ OBVIOUSLY

 

The point Im making is you dont know what's goping on in the Everton boardroom but you spread the doom and gloom to further JUSTIFY your own opinions / motives........ in other words you have an alterantive agenda ie Project Kirkby

 

One thing I dont want if things dont go well at Everton is sum smug KEIOC supporter smiling in my face saying "I told you so....Well at least were not in Kirkby"

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I don't know whats happening behind the board and I don't have an alternative agenda as said before I don't live in the area so not going to talk about moving to Kirby or anything else as would not effect me.

 

However at this present time there is doom and gloom around.

 

We always think we have a bad summer and then something good happens, however this time we not even talking about players joining anymore we talking about things above that which we should not have to do.

 

No other club the premiership is being linked in the media like we are with problems with people leaving and having to sell to buy (and I don't includethe redshite that need to sell to buy Barry after they have already spent money)

 

The last 2 seasons we have finished 6 and 5 and we should be looking at moving forward.

 

If BK not got the funds to do it or can't get them in then he should be looking at doing everything in his power to either do it or look at selling the club.

 

And he should be looking at like we would as we want the best for our club. He comes out and says that he wants the best for the club and he is a supporter above anything else now is the time to prove it and doing something about it before we lose a start players and our manager.

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there seems to be alot of rubbish flying about and whether Wyness is here or not doesn't bother me I just want to see us trying to make moves in the transfer market. I actually think once we get one signing in especially a big one everyone will calm down.

 

Does anyone know the context in which Moyes made the comments about it being a londg way off moving forward. I understand on some level you have to balance the books but if selling the whole first team (Baines AJ) is the way we do it then we may aswell start from scratch

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Your not that bad Adam, usually you just highlight other posts or stories in the newspapers....... it doesnt come accross that you actually enjoying it all.... which is nice!!!!!

 

I don't honestly believe that any Everton fan (even those that want to stay in Liverpool) are enjoying this at the moment.

 

This should be a time that we as Everton fans should be looking forward.

 

Forget that the new stadium is outside Liverpool the fact remains that we MIGHT be getting new stadium (something that we need)

 

Instead we are maybe looking at worrying times and without anyone from Everton coming out and saying what is going on its left to people to try to work it out.

 

Not so long ago there was reports that AJ was going to Fulham. Nothing from Everton then finally they confirm an offer has been accepted.

 

Goes back to my post before. There is no smoke without fire.

 

Going back to my original point I honestly dont believe that any Everton fan is enjoying this at the moment

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Actually I sort of agree with Dangermouse, I always have the utmost respect for Louis but quoting loads of these unbelievably depressing rumours (which probably don't have a shred of truth in them) is just winding up loads of Everton fans and it's all these sorts of rumours and innuendo that is making the transfer window so depressing. I think Everton fans are concerned enough without reading all sorts of doom and gloom that probably aren't true. You then get Everton fans asking for clarity from the board - why should they clarify the position? it's not their job to comment on every insane rumour that is going round, they have other things to do like try and make some signings! Now don't get me wrong, if any of these stories are true then we're in BIG trouble and I'll be pretty angry and I welcome any informed stories (not outright rumour), but until we know for certain let's just try and take them with a pinch of salt and keep a level head.

 

As for Warnock for Baines - AS IF. It was in the Sun, it's just scaremongering rubbish because papers have picked up on the fact that Everton fans are getting hysterical. Come on Everton make some signings and calm everyone down! :)

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The way Everton fc are run is embarrassing. we need a Randy Lerner or someone of that ilk.

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Coral have suspended bets on Moyes going, so your probably right, its not out of the question.

 

http://www.coral.co.uk/sbuk.go?page=groupp...;ms=&type=0

 

That's a link to "Who will be England's captain against Andorra?"

 

Coral's are still quite happy to take your money on DM being the next managerial casualty at 20-1....if you think it's going to happen get a wedge on to soften the blow ;) .

 

Only Ramos, O'Neill, Wenger, Ferguson and Scolari at better odds btw.

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WE NEED INVESTMENT!!! We won't improve without new players an we need investment to get money so we can improve an increase our sqaud size not having to sell players in order to buy thats just idiotic!

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WE NEED INVESTMENT!!! We won't improve without new players an we need investment to get money so we can improve an increase our sqaud size not having to sell players in order to buy thats just idiotic!

 

how do you know....... are you DM's best mate? do you share a bed with BK?????

 

Has anyone actually come out and said "we have to sell in order to buy" NO!

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No one knows here was it going on the inside of everton, however it is without confirmation from the club what is going on it is left to people to work things out for themselves.

 

People could be wrong people could be right you never know.

 

There is no hiding from the facts.

 

Everton are meant to be selling AJ

DM HAS said he wants/NEEDS 5 or 6 new players

The season is only 15 days away and we have 3 less players than we did at the end of last season and once AJ gone that will be 4

The squad is not big enough to handle an attack on a decent finish in the premiership and a good run in all the cups.

The clubs around us HAVE improved their squads and we have been left behind.

DM said 3 weeks ago or so that he wanted new player

DM is quoted as saying that there won't be any movement in the near future at present for new signings.

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No one knows here was it going on the inside of everton, however it is without confirmation from the club what is going on it is left to people to work things out for themselves.

 

People could be wrong people could be right you never know.

 

There is no hiding from the facts.

 

Everton are meant to be selling AJ

DM HAS said he wants/NEEDS 5 or 6 new players

The season is only 15 days away and we have 3 less players than we did at the end of last season and once AJ gone that will be 4

The squad is not big enough to handle an attack on a decent finish in the premiership and a good run in all the cups.

The clubs around us HAVE improved their squads and we have been left behind.

DM said 3 weeks ago or so that he wanted new player

DM is quoted as saying that there won't be any movement in the near future at present for new signings.

 

Agree up to the last point there... thats the comment that has everyone running around in circles.........

 

Although its quoted i dont exactly think its credible.... it seems a little twisted and out of contex when you read the story.....

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Agree up to the last point there... thats the comment that has everyone running around in circles.........

 

Although its quoted i dont exactly think its credible.... it seems a little twisted and out of contex when you read the story.....

 

 

I agree the qoute just dosen't fit the question asked, someone is playing silly buggers.

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That's a link to "Who will be England's captain against Andorra?"

 

Coral's are still quite happy to take your money on DM being the next managerial casualty at 20-1....if you think it's going to happen get a wedge on to soften the blow ;) .

 

Only Ramos, O'Neill, Wenger, Ferguson and Scolari at better odds btw.

 

 

Scroll down mate, it is there :P

 

 

Moyes was 66/1 yesterday, and all summer, thats a massive drop in price. So the bookies aren't saying its a cert, but they know somethings a miss.

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Moyes was 66/1 yesterday, and all summer, thats a massive drop in price. So the bookies aren't saying its a cert, but they know somethings a miss.

 

They've probably got their info from ToffeeTalk :lol: .

 

Fair point....he's 14-1 now (same as Benitez coincidentally) from 33-1 yesterday.

 

I'm off on holiday for two weeks in the morning, just make sure it's all sorted for when I get back eh lads :) .

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They've probably got their info from ToffeeTalk :lol: .

 

Fair point....he's 14-1 now (same as Benitez coincidentally) from 33-1 yesterday.

 

I'm off on holiday for two weeks in the morning, just make sure it's all sorted for when I get back eh lads :) .

 

 

Hopefully we'll have wrapped up those 5 or 6 signings for you. Have a good one Mike :)

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I'm not going to post any more Wyness related rumours.

 

Bill Kenwright has said there are funds available and I'll take his word for it.

 

DangerMouse - We are at opposite ends on the Kirkby debate and I don't think that will change but I assure you I'm not enjoying myself posting rumours about why Keith Wyness has departed (although I am relieved he has left the club).

 

The rumours I posted are from people who have been proven correct in the past and I felt it suitable to share them with the regulars on here.

 

Carl - Thanks for the respect ;)

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Louis - keep posting the info you get. lets remember this is a forum, and a forum is for debate i do believe??? the stories that come out make debate, regardless of the source, but from past hearing Louis sources are usually spot on.

 

DangerMouse - if you want to have debate about the things going on in and around the club then this is the place to do it, but theres no point in comin here to complain about what we talk about, the same way we always talk about these things, as we have for years, its just wasting your own time. most regular members like the way we do things around here, its not going to change.

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this thread is full of pansies harden the fuck up theres stil 15days stil the start of the season and 30days left in the window surely the team we have now can get results we need until new players come in after all the first 4-5 games arent exactly hard games.

 

anyways this should cheer some of u babies up.

 

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/chai...-statement.html

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this thread is full of pansies harden the fuck up theres stil 15days stil the start of the season and 30days left in the window surely the team we have now can get results we need until new players come in after all the first 4-5 games arent exactly hard games.

anyways this should cheer some of u babies up.

 

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/chai...-statement.html

 

 

Great attitude to have :rolleyes: Playing the newly promoted teams right at the beginning of the season will not be easy at all, that's when they'll still have confidence.

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“I am not going anywhere,” said Moyes. “I am here and intend to see the job through. We have great expectations and I hope that I am able to fulfil them.”

 

Of a new deal, he added: “I hope that maybe we can try and get together in the next week or two and sort something out.

 

“At the moment my energies are focused on bringing in new players. We have a certain amount of money to improve what we have got here.”

 

Moyes reckons Everton need “three or four” big money arrivals to bolster their squad, with Sporting Lisbon playmaker Joao Moutinho, Rennes midfielder Stephane M’Bai and Real Zaragoza’s Argentina striker Diego Milito high on his wanted list.

 

“I will not bring in just for the sake of it,” said Moyes. “We need to bring in three or four main players that are going to cost big money and my standards are that high that I’m not going to bring them down.

 

“We need to bring in better players now to try and help the squad. But we don’t have bundles of cash.”

 

The lack of new arrivals so far in the transfer window has heightened anxiety among Everton supporters.

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this thread is full of pansies harden the fuck up theres stil 15days stil the start of the season and 30days left in the window surely the team we have now can get results we need until new players come in after all the first 4-5 games arent exactly hard games.

 

anyways this should cheer some of u babies up.

 

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/chai...-statement.html

 

 

Look another uber fan. You'll be saying the same when there's 7 days to go, 5 days to go. You cant blame people for not trusting this board, all i will say is World class Stadium, almost free.

 

In Moyes i trust, i dont in many others.

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What I don't like about that article is this quote from Moyes - "We have a certain amount of money to improve what we have got here.”

 

I think what Moyes is saying is a message to BK as well as the fans tbh - “We need to bring in three or four main players that are going to cost big money and my standards are that high that I’m not going to bring them down."

 

Again though, actions speak louder words at the moment.

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Its about time that someone (BK) came out and said something although I am like most in saying that actions speak louder than words.

 

If they bring in 4 players of the likes they have been linked with it would improve the squad.

 

The thing that worries me is that DM has said he wont buy just for the sake of it and that is good to hear but if he transfer targets don't come off then we will be left seriously short of numbers.

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