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This well known Kraut Strangler will be available to smack someone next week.

Will he make the bench against "The Shite"?

Personally, I think he will B)

Return of the legend anyone ?

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Duncan Ferguson is a f*cking liability, he is only a legend in the eyes of those who have not seen how a real Everton centre forward should conduct himself. Without a doubt he should be kept in a glass case in the foyer of Goodison with a little hammer and sign saying "Break glass in event of a Derby or Man U game".

 

He is pure and simple a thug, we can do without him.

 

ATB

 

Mac

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yes, but how do you really feel about him. ;)

 

Duncan Ferguson is a f*cking liability, he is only a legend in the eyes of those who have not seen how a real Everton centre forward should conduct himself. Without a doubt he should be kept in a glass case in the foyer of Goodison with a little hammer and sign saying "Break glass in event of a Derby or Man U game".

 

He is pure and simple a thug, we can do without him.

 

ATB

 

Mac

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Duncan Ferguson is a f*cking liability, he is only a legend in the eyes of those who have not seen how a real Everton centre forward should conduct himself. Without a doubt he should be kept in a glass case in the foyer of Goodison with a little hammer and sign saying "Break glass in event of a Derby or Man U game".

 

He is pure and simple a thug, we can do without him.

 

ATB

 

Mac

 

 

Well said mate,i just cant see why he has this following..he's done fuck all for Everton,thinks only of himself

 

Be glad to see the back of him to be honest.

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Duncan Ferguson is a f*cking liability, he is only a legend in the eyes of those who have not seen how a real Everton centre forward should conduct himself. Without a doubt he should be kept in a glass case in the foyer of Goodison with a little hammer and sign saying "Break glass in event of a Derby or Man U game".

 

He is pure and simple a thug, we can do without him.

 

ATB

 

Mac

 

 

CORRECTAMUNO

 

I totally aggree wi you and fozzie.

 

Althougth he has given me a few good memories

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This is where my youth blinds me cos I have not seen the 'greats' all of you lot have so in my eyes from players Ive seen Duncan is right up there. Hes a good guy with a bad temper sort of like myself really. Hes given us hope and spirit, hes a true blue and hes won us some vital points over the years. Yes he is a thug and a liability on the pitch but Hypia will be shittin himself next week if we bring Big Dunc on for the last half hour and thats precisely why we keep him

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The derby is exactly the kind of match we need big Dunc on the bench for. If he comes on with 20 minutes to go he will lift the supporters and intimidate the opposition. With Dunc breathing down his neck Hyppia is always liable for a mistake, and with us now having genuine pace all over the park there is a good chance someone will capitalise on it. (stubbs and weir not included in pace comment)

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As I said, he is a big game player, but his taste for mindless violence is a little worrying. In the Derby we can't afford to go down to 10 men, the RS would rip us to bits. As Bluemonkey and Claire have said - keep him for the last 20 mins and watch the RS defence crap themselves.

 

ATB

 

Mac

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This is where my youth blinds me cos I have not seen the 'greats' all of you lot have so in my eyes from players Ive seen Duncan is right up there.  Hes a good guy with a bad temper sort of like myself really.  Hes given us hope and spirit, hes a true blue and hes won us some vital points over the years.  Yes he is a thug and a liability on the pitch but Hypia will be shittin himself next week if we bring Big Dunc on for the last half hour and thats precisely why we keep him

ahh yes,something good to say about age..(at last) :D

 

bobby latch,inchy,sharpy,lineker varidi :o ,great players

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All you oldies need to remember what we have been through!!

 

Start your mindset in 1990 and picture what we have been through and Duncan Ferguson is and always will be a Legend and David Moyes is the Moysiah!

 

I'm not saying Duncan is better than any who came befor him and i am not saying that Moyes has been a fantastic manager what i am saying is they have brought us some glint of good throughout all the shite we have had to put up with over our short Everton careers!!

 

Bring on the days when we are winning league & european silverware again but until then the big man has a place in my heart :)

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There is no right or wrong here, only opinion. IMO Dunc is not what some people make him out to be, never been what you could call prolific, reliable, a good example or even a decent human being.

 

I was spoiled with Sharpie, Gray, Lineker,Roger Kenyon, Sheedy, Lyons, Ball, Harvey, Kendall, Royle ........ the list is endless.

 

In the years to come I hope young TT'ers can look back with fonder memories than a 3 month stint in Barlinnie and punching some Austrian because he didn't like what he had to say.

 

ATB

 

Mac

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There is no right or wrong here, only opinion. IMO Dunc is not what some people make him out to be, never been what you could call prolific, reliable, a good example or even a decent human being.

 

I was spoiled with Sharpie, Gray, Lineker,Roger Kenyon, Sheedy, Lyons, Ball, Harvey, Kendall, Royle ........ the list is endless.

 

In the years to come I hope young TT'ers can look back with fonder memories than a 3 month stint in Barlinnie and punching some Austrian because he didn't like what he had to say.

 

ATB

 

Mac

True,the sad thing about him is the fact he has skill and could have been a hell of a player if he'd wanted to be.

 

But he couldnt be arsed with it,he to me sums up all that is wrong with the modern game.

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There is no right or wrong here, only opinion. IMO Dunc is not what some people make him out to be, never been what you could call prolific, reliable, a good example or even a decent human being.

 

I was spoiled with Sharpie, Gray, Lineker,Roger Kenyon, Sheedy, Lyons, Ball, Harvey, Kendall, Royle ........ the list is endless.

 

In the years to come I hope young TT'ers can look back with fonder memories than a 3 month stint in Barlinnie and punching some Austrian because he didn't like what he had to say.

 

ATB

 

Mac

 

Your correct Mac!

 

Ferguson

Barlow

Ridout

Cottee

Branch

Amo

Jeffers

Max Moore

Madar

Stewart

Cadermarteri

Jevons

Rooney

McFadden

Beattie

 

I cant think of anymore but there will be some, so apart from the current front men (who are by no means the sort of players we can relate to, BT possibly in the future), Shrek (who broke our hearts) and Ridout, Stewart & Cottee (until he shit it against wimbldon). Who have we had to idolise?

 

No one, a sorry state of affairs but realisticaly he has been the only striker to bring any excitement to the club and that is why we feel like this about Duncan. We tried with many others but no one has had an affect quite like Dunc over the years!! The mans a liability but he has given us some magic moments and it honestly broke my heart to see his goal disallowed against villarreal because i knew it ment as much if not more to him than it did me and that is why we love him. He feels the highs and lows like the rest of us and in my book will always be welcome at Goodison park as a true evertonian.

 

Que all the true evertonian wouldnt hurt the club the way he has blah blah blah comments. Tell that to all the ex hooligans of the terace days who now run supporters clubs all over liverpool and country and never miss a game. They all hurt the club with their tempers and liking of violence but are some of the most faithful and passionate evertonians you will ever meet.

 

Like you said Mac its all opinions and there is no rite or worng but for the reccord although i call him a stupid scottish c*nt everytime he gets sent off and hate him for it i do and always will love Duncan Ferguson.

 

Another thing which built the legend of duncan is the amount of debutants and young academy lads who have made their début and been pushed around and bullied by older pro's who was always there? Duncan! Protecting the young vunerable lads in the team, its not just mindless violence he overreacts to provocation if someone had given him the help Joey Barton was given last year at the start of his career then he could have become a true Goodison legend! Instead i will remember Duncan for the good not the bad and all the spine tingling moments he has brought me personaly :D

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Strange but true that Goldfish.

 

I remember Cottee and he scored a lot of goals for us, hat trick on his debue and almost 200 in total (pretty good by anyones standards) also was a british tranfer record when we signed him, but cant really remember idolising him :( . Why is that?

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Strange but true  that Goldfish.

 

I remember Cottee and he scored a lot of goals for us, hat trick on his debue and almost 200 in total (pretty good by anyones standards) also was a british tranfer record when we signed him, but cant really remember idolising him :( . Why is that?

 

No spirit!

 

Duncans a thug but at heart so are we! What happens when a naughty tackle goes in at Goodison?

 

and its not just the Gwladys, the paddock goes fookin mental then we all sing Run run....... with venom.

 

Thats the spirit of the blues! Play, sing, fight & die for the cause!

 

Again IMO :P

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Fair points there Fishman, he is an Evertonian, no doubt. I think I will now put away my axe and grindstone.

 

ATB

 

Mac

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I think the fish's list of villians has pointed to the gross mismangement at Everton over the last 20 years or so.

 

But i still cant see why the thug is fawned over so much,look at the likes of dave watson..mr dependable..hell mr Everton gave blood for the club now ok he wasnt the best in the world,but he had spirit,soul and a love of the club that took him way above anything ferg the thug will ever do.

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I think the fish's list of villians has pointed to the gross mismangement at Everton over the last 20 years or so.

 

But i still cant see why the thug is fawned over so much,look at the likes of dave watson..mr dependable..hell mr Everton gave blood for the club now ok he wasnt the best in the world,but he had spirit,soul and a love of the club that took him way above anything ferg the thug will ever do.

 

Duncan is not a speck on Dave Watson he was Everton for many years through the gloom and personaly i hold no player in higher regard than Waggy. His problem was he was a defender and defenders dont do spine tingling things like strikers do but the man is a true Legend among the greats of yesteryear.

 

:D

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I have to step back on this one and look closely at Goldfish's argument, probably with the exception of Dixie, i have had over the years the opportunity to see most of the Everton Legends, where as we havent had that many legends to gloat about in the last 20 years.

 

So to Goldfish, and the other fans who are of the younger generation, Duncan is as near a legend as anybody they have seen, so on that basis alone, i respectfully understand the reason why he is looked upon as a legend, and hope in the coming years, they will have some players who they will adore, and will go on to become Real True Blue Legends.

 

Licker. ( arl arse ). :)

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I have to step back on this one and look closely at Goldfish's argument, probably with the exception of Dixie, i have had over the years the opportunity to see most of the Everton Legends, where as we havent had that many legends to gloat about in the last 20 years.

 

So to Goldfish, and the other fans who are of the younger generation, Duncan is as near a legend as anybody they have seen, so on that basis alone, i respectfully understand the reason why he is looked upon as a legend, and hope in the coming years, they will have some players who they will adore, and will go on to become Real True Blue Legends.

 

Licker.  ( arl arse ). :)

Oh i agree..just think the youth of today should look for someone with higher standards.

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You don´t know what are you talking. You are NOT the real Evertonians because you hate Dunc. Dunc is great.

 

 

And thats your opinion. But other peoples differ and this is the place to discuss

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Just a quick one for kolon - as Zed has said it is all about opinions and as we all know opinions are like ars*holes - everyone has one and think everyone else's stinks.

 

Having said that take into account various ages and experiences, for the older amongst us Duncan doesn't cut it as a hero figure. Thats not to say we don't appreciate what he has done in the past, especially last season, but to tell people they don't know what they're talking about on a forum such as this, is a tad on the presumptious side.

 

Only an opinion. :D

 

Also got to agree with Fozz, I forgot about Watson, stoopid, I know but the man had blue blood.

 

ATB

 

Mac

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There is no right or wrong here, only opinion. IMO Dunc is not what some people make him out to be, never been what you could call prolific, reliable, a good example or even a decent human being.

 

I was spoiled with Sharpie, Gray, Lineker,Roger Kenyon, Sheedy, Lyons, Ball, Harvey, Kendall, Royle ........ the list is endless.

 

In the years to come I hope young TT'ers can look back with fonder memories than a 3 month stint in Barlinnie and punching some Austrian because he didn't like what he had to say.

 

ATB

 

Mac

 

the decent human being was a bit harsh!

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I agree that it depends on age etc who you view as a legend my dad certainly doesnt see dunc as a legend his favourite line is 'cant we shoot him and put him out of his misery!'

 

I think in my short lifetime ive seen 4 Everton greats play and you may agree/disagree about playing ability but their commitment to Everton was 110% and they are Southall, Watson, Unsworth and Ferguson.

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I agree that it depends on age etc who you view as a legend my dad certainly doesnt see dunc as a legend his favourite line is 'cant we shoot him and put him out of his misery!'

 

I think in my short lifetime ive seen 4 Everton greats play and you may agree/disagree about playing ability but their commitment to Everton was 110% and they are Southall, Watson, Unsworth and Ferguson.

 

Unsworth is a debatable one but i know exatly what your talking about as far as committment to the cause goes and a true love for the club.

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Actually..believe it or not im inbetween coz half my family are blue and half are red, which is difficult to cope with you know :(

 

So i guess im in the unique position of being able to support & critisize both clubs :lol:

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Then your a nothing, a nobody, have some bottle mate and be one or the other.

 

I too am from a mixed family, but some of my most boistress arguments have been with my family members.

 

Who do you want to win at the w/end, you cant sit on the fence.

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Actually..believe it or not im inbetween coz half my family are blue and half are red, which is difficult to cope with you know  :(  

 

So i guess im in the unique position of being able to support & critisize both clubs  :lol:

 

As i just said in my PM its not possible, if you say your betwwen then you support no one and your a neutral football fan!

 

I think your red and your telling porkies!

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I think hes a mong just for saying what hes said.

 

I blame the parents.

 

I too am from a mixed bunch, I also used to have a lot of RS mates (who went the match) and we've had many a ding dong. Big deal

 

Your one or the other. You can't be both idiot

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TBH, I think most families have the recessive red gene there somewhere, but the bright and resourceful see throught the spin and propoganda and see it for what it is - A whole load of big fat hairy ball bag sweat.

 

My Dad - Blue

 

My Mam - Red

 

My 3 Brothers - blue

 

Genetics, my arse. It's about pride, passion, history and not being a total c*nt

 

ATB

 

Mac

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TBH, I think most families have the recessive red gene there somewhere, but the bright and resourceful see throught the spin and propoganda and see it for what it is - A whole load of big fat hairy ball bag sweat.

 

My Dad - Blue

 

My Mam  - Red

 

My 3 Brothers - blue

 

Genetics, my arse. It's about pride, passion, history and not being a total c*nt

 

ATB

 

Mac

 

Either your mother really is a total c*nt or that's the funniest thing I've ever seen on a football forum.

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Maybe I could have made myself a little clearer, My Mam was a diamond who lived in a house full of Blues, and still managed to give out the sh*t when we lost to RS (especially when it came to Emlyn Hughes, who she fancied).

 

There were times I thought she displayed elements of c*ntishness, but I would never outright say it.

 

ATB

 

Mac

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Unsy was YES a Great Blue...Still is...However, not a Great Player.

 

Thats exactly what I meant not players who were great in terms of skill but passion for the club which some would argue can make up for a lack of skill. I live on Bramall Lane which if you dont know is the same road that sheff uniteds grounds on where Unsy now plays, ive been to see him play a few times hes still half decent! But once when i was out in my Everton shirt I heard a scouse guy shout excuse me and it was Unsy he'd seen my Everton shirt and we had a great chat hes brill!!!!!

 

And as for mixed famillies both sides of my family are all blue pity the boyfriends a tranmere fan but at least thats not as bad as a kopite

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Thats exactly what I meant not players who were great in terms of skill but passion for the club which some would argue can make up for a lack of skill.  I live on Bramall Lane which if you dont know is the same road that sheff uniteds grounds on where Unsy now plays, ive been to see him play a few times hes still half decent!  But once when i was out in my Everton shirt I heard a scouse guy shout excuse me and it was Unsy he'd seen my Everton shirt and we had a great chat hes brill!!!!!

 

And as for mixed famillies both sides of my family are all blue pity the boyfriends a tranmere fan but at least thats not as bad as a kopite

 

Booooooooo send him packing :P

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theres been some comments about dunc.

 

dunc is, or was, a great asset. its a pity he never learned to control his temper, he would have been a greater player.

 

having said that i think we all know that last season he won us a lotta points. often coming on for the last ten or fifteen minutes he could make a goal and salvage a match.

 

his career is now over, and i think he must know it.

 

he's been his own worst enemy. and he's not the only one in the game. look at george best!

 

i think he deserves our thanks for the great performances he's turned in, and perhaps a little sympathy for his tempremental weaknesses. <_<

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I agree f*cked up what could have been a fantastic career but i still love him and all of the memories he has given me still make the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end :D

 

Edit: Oooops Claire jumped inbetween :huh:

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Duncan Ferguson Legend!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes he's had his moments but hey he doesn't mess about, if you p*ss him off he gonna get you and it wont be a little trip or a pull of your hair, no not Duncan when he hits you the next thing you will see is the physio. Don't forget the big game goals that have had us all singing his name. So if he plays on Saturday watch for those nostrils to flair and the red mist to descend as Duncan hits his last Knock out blow, will it be a Goal or Carrager. Who knows we'll have to wait and see!!!!

But never forget the Magic Moments and the hair on your neck standing on end as all around him fear him!!!!!!!!!!!

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If Duncan played for anyone else and done the same would we still be sitting here and calling him a legend for the team he played for.

 

Did he do the same at Newcastle???? scored some important goals got injured. Not sure if he was sent off??? do Newcastle fans call him a legend, or great or even a good bye????

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