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Do We Like Moyes, Yes Or No

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Hi

 

 

I have a bit of a struggle guys as my Dad supports the shite, yer i know dont ask how that happened

 

A comment he made about Moyes got me onto posting this question, he said all efc fans hate Moyes, is it a case of "typical redshite chatting shit" or is there any truth in it

 

I personaly doubt it but its starts my first thread, :D

 

 

efcgenius

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You tell your dad "Hate" is a very bad word!

 

He's obviously getting a bit mixed up!.....at the end of last season 2/3 of luckypool fans didn't think too highly of their own manager....results/luck have easde their pain a bit this season.

 

Their feelings towards their owners!.....MMMMmmmmm, That nasty word HATE!!......Seems to spring to mind again!

 

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My opinion on Moyes is the same as Romey's or similer, he's a good manager who can do things on a shoe string budget other's cant my main concern with Moyes is his negative style of play.

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I would gladly offer him my first-born daughter's virginity....if it wasn't too late :unsure: .

 

 

Very funny, going a bit tooo far i think

 

I agree hes done a great job past few years and hopefully if Manshitty and Assnal win gives us a chance to go 5th if we win Mobo

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...hopefully if Manshitty and Assnal win gives us a chance to go 5th...

 

Go along with Arsenal beating Villa but I'd rather stay sixth and have Hull beat City.

 

Hull are doing brilliantly but will run out of steam at some point and City are far more likely to be challenging for a Euro place (hopefully where we'll be :) ).

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Well i am glad nobody has spouted any rubbish about not liking him. Yes everyone is entitled to there own opinion, but Moyes has done a great job. Wouldnt wnt anyone else in charge in place of the Moyesiah

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Love him. If i'd have known about Mike's willingness to supply Moyes his daughter I would have though twice about taking her virginity. Moyes deserves it more than me. ;)

 

In any case, Moyes may not be the best tactician, but his ability to take a razor thin side and shape us into a formidable force in the prem takes more than just ability, it takes faith. Moyes believes in Everton, and I believe in Moyes.

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If i'd have known about Mike's willingness to supply Moyes his daughter I would have though twice about taking her virginity.

 

But you asked so nicely Martyn :) .

 

Btw, she says to ask whether you've managed to get past 30 seconds yet :huh: ?

 

:lol::lol:

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Have to agree he is the best manager for us at the moment and he is getting better and better, His tactics sometimes suprise us but all in all his record with us is very good.

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David Moyes:

 

(+) Turned us from relegation strugglers into a top team

(+) Managed to break into the Top 4

(+) Did excellent in Europe last year

(+) Arteta, Cahill, Lescott signed for minimal fee from small clubs

(+) Staff he employs seem to be doing well

(+) Made Goodison Park a fortress

 

(-) No summer transfers in 2008-2009 season

(-) Poor start to 2008-2009 season

(-) Poor decisions tactic-wise

(-) Slight relegation scare early on

(-) Terrible wrinkles

 

So, no I don't hate the man, I don't hate many people. Steven Gerrard, Gerard Way, those are people I hate. I don't mind Moyes. I woulden't even go to the point where I dislike the man. I mean, after all look at the positive's that I mentioned and I made that post in a few minutes missing out many that are maybe more important. He's turned us round into a great club. Made Goodison into a fortress and is a really nice guy. I like him. A poor start to 2008-2009 looks to be over. Let's hope it continues.

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David Moyes:

 

(+) Turned us from relegation strugglers into a top team

(+) Managed to break into the Top 4

(+) Did excellent in Europe last year

(+) Arteta, Cahill, Lescott signed for minimal fee from small clubs

(+) Staff he employs seem to be doing well

(+) Made Goodison Park a fortress

 

(-) No summer transfers in 2008-2009 season

(-) Poor start to 2008-2009 season

(-) Poor decisions tactic-wise

(-) Slight relegation scare early on

(-) Terrible wrinkles

 

So, no I don't hate the man, I don't hate many people. Steven Gerrard, Gerard Way, those are people I hate. I don't mind Moyes. I woulden't even go to the point where I dislike the man. I mean, after all look at the positive's that I mentioned and I made that post in a few minutes missing out many that are maybe more important. He's turned us round into a great club. Made Goodison into a fortress and is a really nice guy. I like him. A poor start to 2008-2009 looks to be over. Let's hope it continues.

 

 

 

Except for breaking the club record transfer fee for Fellaini, but i think i can see what you mean. ;)

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As much as he looks like Moe from the Simpsons i couldnt ask for a better manager, there isnt anyone who would take the job who could actually do a better job at this moment in time. Certainly such managers as Mourinho etc. would maybe do better but its very highly unlikely someone of that stature would consider us. Im happy with moyes to be here for next 5 years.

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If we look at all the managers in the Premiership at the moment we will see just how good Moyes is to us.

 

-Arsene Wenger

-Martin O'Neill

-Paul Ince

-Gary Megson

-Louis Philip Scolari

-Roy Hodgeson

-Phil Brown

-Rafeal Benitez

-Mark Hughes

-Sir Alex Ferguson

-Gareth Southgate

-Joe Kinnear

-Tony Adams

-Tony Pulis

-Roy Keane

-Harry Redknapp

-Tony Mowbray

-Gianfranco Zola

-Steve Bruce

 

OK, so there is all the managers in the Premiership (except Moyes) out of that list there is not one manager outside the top 4 that I would like to replace David. Ferguson, Wenger, Scolari and dare I say it Benitez could do a better job here, but is that just down to money? Moyes has taken us from rock botton to confident UEFA challengers and that's something special. If we look at the managers outside the money-men I can see only 2 that I would even consider to be in charge of us. Southgate and Keane are doing well at thier clubs, but I would never put them over Moyes. If anything comes of this little experiment it shows that on paper Moyes is the 5th best manager in the league - so why should we hate him?

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Ferguson, Wenger, Scolari and dare I say it Benitez could do a better job here.....Southgate and Keane

 

Just what kind of medication are you on :huh: ?

 

The first statement is hugely open to question and I can maybe at a stretch see where you're coming from with Keane (though I disagree completely), but Southgate ffs :o:o . I'm stunned and speechless.

 

O'Neill's head and shoulders above the rest imo.

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I wasn't saying that they should be managed I was just saying who was mediocre and could even come near Moyes in the Premiership. I should have included O'Neill yes, but Southgate and Keane have done well at thier clubs. I mean Sunderland were like us, worse, but similar and since Keane has come along they've done excellent. I'm just saying that Keane, O'Neill and Southgate have done well for themselves as managers, that's all.

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keanes walked in and went "oh i know i'll just sign as many players as i can and see what happens" he is doing shite this season. O'neil is the best by far, buys young english talent and it works brilliantly for them. Moyes is around level parring with o'neill imo but is by far ahead of everyone else (except top 4 managers)

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i think o'neill is up there, i think keane will be around for a long time, hes still learning. phil brown is another manager i like, i hope he goes a long way in his career. i think it'll be interesting to see how tony adams does, was such a good player hope he can pull it off. i think harry redknapp is a brilliant manager, what he did at pompy was amazing, and look at the turn around at spurs the way he gives players belief. and SAF is just the best there has been imo

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Moysie is top drawer. People have short memories. Before he came we were relegation candidates every year. Now we are the club everybody forgets about when they are talking about who can break into the top four, but ultimately we are there or there abouts every year but one. I agree this years summer transfer business was a fuck up but i dont think that was Moyes fault. Moyes knows to get players in early like he did when we got Lescott, Johnson etc and how much it benefits everybody and he wouldnt have wanted to leave it to the last day. Tactically i think he is very astute and most of the time his substitutions pay off the only minor gripe i would have is he needs to drop Arteta once in a while................

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18 months ago we were all saying what a good manager Aidy Boothroyd was at Watford, now he is on the Dole.

 

Your only as good as your last ten games in Football. :)

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Your only as good as your last ten games in Football. :)

 

Can be deceptive though Bill...

 

How about a run of eleven league games made up of two wins, three draws and six losses...

 

....conceding sixteen goals and scoring only four along the way.

 

That would make a pretty poor top flight manager yes?

 

Relegation form for sure.

 

Sack him? A lot of people wanted to :) .

 

 

 

 

Everton's last eleven league games of 1983 :P .

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I dont hate him but I've come to the same conclusion as some other Evertonians that he's probably taken us as far as he can.

 

I do think he NEEDS a better number 2 than Steve Round though. Someone with a bit of tactical nouse would be nice.

And preferably someone whose experience is in midfield or attacking.

Moyes was a defender and so was Round. PLEASE get someone in who can tell us what to do when going forward and stop this lumping the ball forward.

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i think o'neill is up there, i think keane will be around for a long time, hes still learning. phil brown is another manager i like, i hope he goes a long way in his career. i think it'll be interesting to see how tony adams does, was such a good player hope he can pull it off. i think harry redknapp is a brilliant manager, what he did at pompy was amazing, and look at the turn around at spurs the way he gives players belief. and SAF is just the best there has been imo

 

Good call, I like Phil Brown too. He is doing a great job with Hull and sounds like a top bloke too (and not a wrinkle in sight at the moment!) :-)

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I'd be unsure what to expect of Hull. They're doing a great job now but could easily become the new Wigan Athletic.

 

Make a fantastic start to thier season and keep it up, coming to the final in the league cup and doing a superb job, finishing in the top half of the table and then have 3-4 unsuccessful seasons fighting relegation and getting little support. I will be hoping that this dosen't happen to Hull but it could easily happen. Wish them all the best, undecided on how good Brown is at the moment.

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I dont hate him but I've come to the same conclusion as some other Evertonians that he's probably taken us as far as he can.

 

I do think he NEEDS a better number 2 than Steve Round though. Someone with a bit of tactical nouse would be nice.

And preferably someone whose experience is in midfield or attacking.

Moyes was a defender and so was Round. PLEASE get someone in who can tell us what to do when going forward and stop this lumping the ball forward.

i disagree with the "as far as he can take us" bit more money moyes would break the top 4. Its going to happen again soon, just if it will stay broken, arsenal are now the weak link into the top 4 where as it has been liverpool for a few seasons, they have improved alot. Arsenal as some of their results have show are beatable even with a fully fit squad. With the right money, the right signings moyes can do it, done it with little money and i think he can do it with abit of money. just if we actually get the moolar.

As for steve round, i can see what your saying but im more than happy giving the man a chance, it does seem that since he came to the club we havent been the same everton like last season where we had irvine then a few coachs helping out. But having said that since ive got my everton tattoo we havent been the same. could be round, tattoo could be cursed, either way give us a chance to improve and we will be back to where we belong.

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When I was a litte kid, and never had a season ticket I would get a hot dog after a game if we won. The weird thing was, I went to about 30 games in 4 years seeing as our next door neighbour did have a ticket, but seeing as he lived away I would go. And for four years I never saw Everton lose. Whenever I went with my mum and dad we would win. Always. And whenever I went with the fella' next door I would see them either win or draw. I saw my first ever defeat in 2005, aged 12. When Matt Holland scored past Richard Wright in the 44th minute. This was the only goal of the game and was a game which I was especially gutted about seeing as my record was broken.

 

I didn't get a hot dog after that because we got a season ticket around the other side in the Main Stand. I would instead get a Burger from the green van that's parked in front of the huge Everton sign. I used to have one of them before the match, every match and have a sausage roll inside.

 

Nowadays, since we've moved the the white seats in the Upper Bullins I just have some chips outside the ground at the Goodison Supper Bar, terrible queue's last week against Middlesbrough..

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David Moyes has spoken to the media after the defeat at Wigan, and has again backed his strikers Yakubu and Saha to get goals, despite not getting any service...

 

“There were a couple of opportunities tonight, Yak had a chance early on and there was some good play from them in the early part of the game I thought,” Moyes told the waiting reporters at full time. The longer it went on it dwindled away a little bit, but I think there’s goals there and I think they’re both very good players. It was quite tight but I knew it would be a tough game. Wigan’s not an easy place to come and they’re a strong side, so you have to give them some credit. Hopefully we can pick up. We’ve played well recently prior to coming here and had been on a decent run, so hopefully we can pick up again.”

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David Moyes has spoken to the media after the defeat at Wigan, and has again backed his strikers Yakubu and Saha to get goals, despite not getting any service...

 

“There were a couple of opportunities tonight, Yak had a chance early on and there was some good play from them in the early part of the game I thought,” Moyes told the waiting reporters at full time. The longer it went on it dwindled away a little bit, but I think there’s goals there and I think they’re both very good players. It was quite tight but I knew it would be a tough game. Wigan’s not an easy place to come and they’re a strong side, so you have to give them some credit. Hopefully we can pick up. We’ve played well recently prior to coming here and had been on a decent run, so hopefully we can pick up again.”

 

 

 

:o:huh::mellow: I must have gone to put the kettle on and missed that bit. :angry: DM .. idiot.

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Sometimes you've got to admit when the team play shite to give players a kick up the arse, Moyes doesn't seem to have the ball to do it.

 

You've gotta hope he's doing it behind closed doors.

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