MC11 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Breath of fresh air in the middle. He should be in next to McCarthy. Proper footballer with a proper footballing brain. The difference having someone who lifts his head up in the middle. McCarthy is the workhorse, Gibson makes the game tick over and can play forward passes. A proper central midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethinO Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 He looked good tonight. Best cameo I've seen from him since his injury. He should get a bit more playing time now, and a good chance to give Barry a rest once in a while. Think we have 4 very good centre midfielders. Elston Gunnn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 unless it's because of injury you can't leave Barry out Some people don't see the work he gets through he's awesome. But he had a good cameo, Patto. Who cares how reliable and impressive Barry has been for us? Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) But he had a good cameo, Patto. Who cares how reliable and impressive Barry has been for us? Gibson is a better footballer than both McCarthy & Barry he sees things much better. He showed that last night and before you start talking bollocks about judging on one game. I've seen Gibson play over and over and he's always been brilliant. Just look at this thread. I rate him highly. On that point though....Maybe we should get Traore back in. He's absolutely ripping the French league up? Edited November 7, 2014 by MC11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Gibson is a better footballer than both McCarthy & Barry he sees things much better. He showed that last night and before you start talking bollocks about judging on one game. I've seen Gibson play over and over and he's always been brilliant. Just look at this thread. I rate him highly. On that point though....Maybe we should get Traore back in. He's absolutely ripping the French league up? Who's talking bollocks now. Over and over, he's forever injured! Gibson Years Team Apps† (Gls)† 2005–2012 Manchester United 31 (3) 2006–2007 → Royal Antwerp (loan) 31 (1) 2007–2008 → Wolverhampton Wanderers (loan) 21 (1) 2012– Everton 37 (2 So in the 10 years he has been playing he has managed 68 appearances in the top flight. Barry has managed 354 games in the same period. Barry Years Team Apps† (Gls)† 1998–2009 Aston Villa 365 (41) 2009–2014 Manchester City 132 (6) 2013–2014 → Everton (loan) 32 (3) 2014– Everton 10 (0) I also rate him, but to say he should waltz back after a cameo and replace a consistent player is just daft. He, like any other player, has to earn their place. Last night was a good start. Edited November 7, 2014 by Matt GoodisonRoad, Toffee_in_LA and Hafnia 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Who's talking bollocks now. Over and over, he's forever injured! Gibson Years Team Apps† (Gls)† 2005–2012 Manchester United 31 (3) 2006–2007 → Royal Antwerp (loan) 31 (1) 2007–2008 → Wolverhampton Wanderers (loan) 21 (1) 2012– Everton 37 (2 So in the 10 years he has been playing he has managed 68 appearances in the top flight. Barry has managed 354 games in the same period. Barry Years Team Apps† (Gls)† 1998–2009 Aston Villa 365 (41) 2009–2014 Manchester City 132 (6) 2013–2014 → Everton (loan) 32 (3) 2014– Everton 10 (0) I also rate him, but to say he should waltz back after a cameo and replace a consistent player is just daft. He, like any other player, has to earn their place. Last night was a good start. I'm judging it on what he does when he's fit & he's now fit. The guy does a lot more with the ball than both McCarthy & Barry combined. He stuck out like a sore thumb when he came on. He was looking to make things happen. His head was actually lifted. It's right he'll have to earn his stripes. But I think he should be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 The point we're all missing on Gibson though is he wont stay fit and it's such a shame because he's such a good footballer. He showed in the one prolonged spell he had with us that he could be a pivotal and imense player for us. Alashe's made of glass so none of this debate matters. Toffee_in_LA, Matt and GoodisonRoad 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Sell him in the January window while he's looking good and healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Sell him in the January window while he's looking good and healthy. Disagree Steve. When he is fit he is a very good player to have in the squad. Maybe he needs to just play cup/Europe games so that he can rest in between and build up stamina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 No one would touch him with his injuries and salary demands - then again Newcastle.... Good player, but a risk after his cruciate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 As said by me and many before me...good useful player. Fans always welcome him back. But there's the issue...always welcome him back...injury prone. So you can never rely on him as your out and out first choice midfielder. You'll always have to have another option with him. And that's why he actually becomes that 'other option' for others instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 I fail to see how he could deserve a chance ahead of McCarthy or Barry as they have both been excellent most of this season, especially recently. It also worth noting that McCarthy is leading the pass before the assist stats according to Executionersbong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethinO Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Gibson won't and in my opinion doesn't deserve to start ahead of McCarthy and Barry. However, that doesn't mean I don't want him playing well. A fit and healthy Gibson is an excellent player and will seriously improve our squad. I must admit his performance yesterday was impressive after he came on. I would have no fears in putting him in if Barry was injured. Doubtful for the weekend isn't he, interesting to see if he's missing if Martinez will go with Besic or Gibson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 I fail to see how he could deserve a chance ahead of McCarthy or Barry as they have both been excellent most of this season, especially recently. It also worth noting that McCarthy is leading the pass before the assist stats according to Executionersbong. He can't be. He can only pass 5 yards sideways!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 What I will say about Gibson last night was that I liked the way he spread the play quickly. He went for one too many Hollywood passes but it helped us control the game and see the game out without a fuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee_in_LA Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 I still remember the time period when we first signed him and that long stretch when we didn't lose a game that he played. I was pleasantly surprised that he played so well, but it is just a shame that he is injury prone. I would have him as a Cup player and use him/Besic when Barry begins to slow down later on in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 I fail to see how he could deserve a chance ahead of McCarthy or Barry as they have both been excellent most of this season, especially recently. It also worth noting that McCarthy is leading the pass before the assist stats according to Executionersbong. This has to go down as one of the most ridiculous statements ever. The pass before the assist lol. What's next he was closest to the scorer. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee_in_LA Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 This has to go down as one of the most ridiculous statements ever. The pass before the assist lol. What's next he was closest to the scorer. Unbelievable. It's what we call a "hockey assist" here in the states. There are cases (like an assist) where they obviously aren't all created equal and aren't all valued the same but it's also unfair to disqualify it entirely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 It's what we call a "hockey assist" here in the states. There are cases (like an assist) where they obviously aren't all created equal and aren't all valued the same but it's also unfair to disqualify it entirely He's bound to be he's a central midfielder. If you look at other clubs it will probably be the same - a central midfielder. He links defence to attack. I've never heard of anyone getting credentials for being the 2nd to an assist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 Sell him in the January window while he's looking good and healthy. Agreed...he is our fourth/sixth choice central midfielder, behind Barry, McCarthy, Besic, Osman, and Barkley. Martinez brought him on early against Lille only because we were 3-0 up. Martinez praises all of his players in public, but I doubt that Gibson has much of a future at Everton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 Gibson is a better footballer than both McCarthy & Barry he sees things much better. He showed that last night and before you start talking bollocks about judging on one game. I've seen Gibson play over and over and he's always been brilliant. Just look at this thread. I rate him highly. On that point though....Maybe we should get Traore back in. He's absolutely ripping the French league up? That blip against Lille hardly proves anything. We were already 3-0 up against a team that had pretty much given up the chase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 This has to go down as one of the most ridiculous statements ever. The pass before the assist lol. What's next he was closest to the scorer. Unbelievable. Not ridiculous at all. It's good that sone recognise that it's not only the final pass that creates a goal. Barkley's assists count Is a good testament to this. Another example is Lukaku's involvement in goals against Lille. He didn't get the assist but is recognised as having a major involvement in the goals. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Was poor today unfortunately. Lacking real match fitness. Does look for the defence splitting pass but it's 50/50 whether it comes off. Started off ok, but faded alarmingly. If Barry's out for a bit, will be more likely to be Besic to start. Matt and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Was poor today unfortunately. Lacking real match fitness. Does look for the defence splitting pass but it's 50/50 whether it comes off. Started off ok, but faded alarmingly. If Barry's out for a bit, will be more likely to be Besic to start. i hope so! yikes he looked rough. was fine for maybe 25 minutes and then disappeared for the rest of the game. he makes osman look like a marathoner! i would like to see besic as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Not good enough at the moment and im not sure that he will ever get back to his best. Injury prone too. Id be ok if he was sold in Jan. Unsure now tho.f both Barry and McCarthy are going to be side lined due to injuries. Gibson and Besic might be our only natural players in those positions. Scary thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Not good enough at the moment and im not sure that he will ever get back to his best. Injury prone too. Id be ok if he was sold in Jan. Unsure now tho.f both Barry and McCarthy are going to be side lined due to injuries. Gibson and Besic might be our only natural players in those positions. Scary thought Oviedo can play central midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Oviedo can play central midfield. i'd rather see barkley drop back if need be, he can defend and move the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Useless today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Oviedo can play central midfield. And Lukaku can play LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 And Lukaku can play LB Doubtful. But about Oviedo's versatility there is little doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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