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i just heard off a few everton supporters that arteta is leaving,finishing his career early.dont know why or even if it is true..i just hate hearing news like this..has any one else heard anything..i will try to locate a link if there is any.witch i hope there aint

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Arteta leaving!....I can hardly remember what it's like to have him playing :( For all we know his injury could be worse than we thought! even if he gets back, he may not be quite as good as before the injury.

 

Plan for life ( certainly for the next couple of months) without him, were already used to him not being there.....then just HOPE he makes it back, and is as good as before.

 

Watching clips of him on youtube (was he really that good) remind you what were missing.

 

BUT!.....he's not playing at the moment, we have to win without him, we have to replace him, in case the worst happens :(

 

Pienaar's almost as good, without perhaps the free kick majic....oh and the never missed a penalty in the prem thing.

 

PLUS I think Goslings the new Arteta :rolleyes:

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I'd rather sell Pienaar than lose Arteta.

 

 

not gonna happen hes worth three times the amount pienar is

 

Come on fellas, I think this is a bit OTT. Apart from the fact that Arteta wouldn't leave for City in a million, these comments are rather overstating what we all think of our treasured Spaniard. He 'is' good, very good, but so is Pienaar. On balance, over the last two years, I have thought we were a better side with both of them playing. When they are not together, I think we are more penetrative with Pienaar alone, than Arteta alone. This is not to say I think that Pienaar is a superior player as that is absurd. I just think that Pienaar tends to bring in the fullbacks more and creates more movement from the midfield and strikers, where Arteta is more of magician. I also think Pienaar is more consistent, as is his workrate and tracking back. I wouldn't want to lose either and value each to the team equally. Value wise, Arteta 3 times Pienaar, I think not, and if we don't have a contract for Pienaar sewn up before the world cup, we might see some silly offers for Pienaar.

 

Out of curiosity, what would you value Arteta at currently?

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I think if a club wanted to buy him they would expect to pay around £20-25 mil. However i don't think you can put a price on him in terms of what he brings to our squad as a player and as a person, seems a top guy from things he's said. I wouldn't want to say something ridiculous like £60mil but i really wouldn't want to sell him no matter what the offer, can see him staying here for his career. :D

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offer them billy.. and tell them to do one... fook off, i said to babey spice if she doesnt wana be in the band then fook off do one.

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Come on fellas, I think this is a bit OTT.

 

 

I don't think it is. Obviously when we're without both of them we look terrible, but if Pienaar's out and Arteta's playing I don't lose too much confidence in the ability of the team to win. If Pienaar's playing but Arteta's out then I lose a bit of that confidence - for me, while Pienaar works hard he gives the ball away far too much for someone with the amount of talent he has.

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I don't think it is. Obviously when we're without both of them we look terrible, but if Pienaar's out and Arteta's playing I don't lose too much confidence in the ability of the team to win. If Pienaar's playing but Arteta's out then I lose a bit of that confidence - for me, while Pienaar works hard he gives the ball away far too much for someone with the amount of talent he has.

 

this! i'd muh rather lose pienaar than artea

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And let's be honest, Goodison would be a much worse looking place without Lorena Bernal....

 

31_lorena_bernal.jpg

 

 

:lol: Any chance to break out a bit of Mrs. Arteta :P

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And let's be honest, Goodison would be a much worse looking place without Lorena Bernal....

 

31_lorena_bernal.jpg

 

No wonder he's always out with a groin strain. ;)

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Well let's hope Cesc doesn't go back to Barcelona. With that though, as good as Mikel is, would he be a suitable replacement? I'd have thought they might have gone for somebody younger and up and coming...

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but if you lose someone of Cescs calibre, you want to be able to replace him with someone of a similar ability who could just 'slip' into the team, and with Arteta's now valuable experience within the prem, it makes perfect sense having Arteta as his replacement. Aresnal couldnt afford to lose Fabregas, to someone who 'might' have potential, they'd need results nearly instantly. :)

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but if you lose someone of Cescs calibre, you want to be able to replace him with someone of a similar ability who could just 'slip' into the team, and with Arteta's now valuable experience within the prem, it makes perfect sense having Arteta as his replacement. Aresnal couldnt afford to lose Fabregas, to someone who 'might' have potential, they'd need results nearly instantly. :)

 

dunno about that, arteta is quite the downgrade, i would have thought they'd aim higher

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dunno about that, arteta is quite the downgrade, i would have thought they'd aim higher

 

But what i mean is dude, which other premier league player could Arsenal realisticaly look at? Taking into account Arteta's experience and adaptability. I realise he isn't to the same level as Cesc but getting someone from abroad might be a high risk, and Arteta is seen as a safe option?

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Arsenal worry me least. They simply can't afford to buy Arteta. If this were shity or chel$ki coming in I'd be much more worried.

 

They can if they sell cesc first, that's the whole point of the link to arteta, as a replacement, so whatever fabregas goes for arteta will be worth about 2/3rd's of that so arsenal could afford him.

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Arteta is not a like for like replacement for Fabregas and Wenger of all people would understand that. Arteta plays a MUCH deeper game. He simply wouldn't give Wenger the goals from midfield that he'd need.

 

Wenger would be more likely to look at someone like Pjanic tbh.

 

That said it's not completely beyond the realms of possibility that he'd sign both Arteta and one of the many highly rated young midfielders about. But still very unlikely.

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I think Arteta will stay this summer as he fully recovers form his injury. However if has another brilliant season and we don't make 4th I think he will leave, and I wouldn't blame him. He deserves to play at the highest level.

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Im not that worried to be honest. Knowing professional players they tell me how agents & clubs use SSN for their advantage. For example if a player is not getting the deal he wants what better way to advertise him than make a call to SSN & let them know there is a problem in contract talks. Other clubs hear this then make enquiries about the player making his current club come up with something to avoid him going somewhere else.

 

Its all a game in a way.

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Arsenal worry me least. They simply can't afford to buy Arteta. If this were shity or chel$ki coming in I'd be much more worried.

 

Arsenal can afford him, they are one of not many clubs who actually make money. They have had the money to spend on players for years, they just dont spend it. Besides, they would get a lot of money for Cesc, enought to buy Arteta.

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Arsenal can afford him, they are one of not many clubs who actually make money. They have had the money to spend on players for years, they just dont spend it. Besides, they would get a lot of money for Cesc, enought to buy Arteta.

 

How much do you reckon we'd get for him? £15m?

 

That would go a long way towards buying Moutinho!

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Mout or Defour would make good replacements but I'd rather keep Arteta, he runs games for us and either one of those two would take time to start doing that for us and I don't think we can afford to wait atm.

 

Would rather sell Pienaar and get either of those two in...imo... :mellow:

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right, from this moment forth if anyone mentioned moutinho, may you die a painful death...that'll be all, if there's one thing that pisses me off...i'd shoot the little cunt myself

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right, from this moment forth if anyone mentioned moutinho, may you die a painful death...that'll be all, if there's one thing that pisses me off...i'd shoot the little cunt myself

 

Moutin-who?

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right, from this moment forth if anyone mentioned moutinho, may you die a painful death...that'll be all, if there's one thing that pisses me off...i'd shoot the little cunt myself

thank god im not the only one who gets seriously wound up when that name is mentioned. If Arteta does go (which im sure he wont, but hoping at the same time to be safe!) there are 2 aspects we need to replace; quality footballer and a team morale booster, which would take a huge blow at the loss....

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reports are that barcelona are close to signing villa and have started negotiations with fabregas and he wants to go...i fear we might actually lose mikel now :(

its not going to happen Marco, not this season at least....

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no way i am counting on us keeping him...as said before they will want an instant replacement and on his day mikel can be as good as fabregas for me..and in a team that plays like arsenal he will fit in..perfect replacement and we all know how wenger likes him

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no way i am counting on us keeping him...as said before they will want an instant replacement and on his day mikel can be as good as fabregas for me..and in a team that plays like arsenal he will fit in..perfect replacement and we all know how wenger likes him

no way Arsenal will stump up the money that Everton would demand (we are talking 25m+), its that simple.

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i think they would to be honest..he's a very well admired footballer as he should be and wenger will have spend big to replace fabregas principles or not! i really do hope you are right i just get the feeling he will go

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There's no way Moyes would sanction any move for Mikky, no matter how much was thrown at it he'd dig his heels right in. (Clingon Forehead Lescott!)

 

If the deal was done without Mikky coming out & tellin us he wanted to go I'm sure Moyes would be following him.

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http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news//tm_headline=everton-fc-latest-manchester-city-set-their-sights-on-mikel-arteta%26method=full%26objectid=26482085%26siteid=92534-name_page.html

 

 

It'd actually hurt if Arteta went there, whereas it just pissed me off with Lescott.

 

They play a clever game City don't they? Make themselves a better side while weakening their main competitors. Wankers.

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