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I think its a good idea... Not happy about an "Everton" group teaming up with them lot next door and unfortunately I dont think its viable.

 

They talk about securing public / private funding when there is a recession on and both government parties have outlined party proposals for public funding cuts....

 

I am sorry to say I believe KEIOC should just keep their noses out now.... seems like there tyring to hard to prove they were not just out to sabotage the move to Kirkby...

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I think its a good idea... Not happy about an "Everton" group teaming up with them lot next door and unfortunately I dont think its viable.

 

They talk about securing public / private funding when there is a recession on and both government parties have outlined party proposals for public funding cuts....

 

I am sorry to say I believe KEIOC should just keep their noses out now.... seems like there tyring to hard to prove they were not just out to sabotage the move to Kirkby...

 

I completely disagree. The board have had years to come up with realistic plans for developing Goodison or moving to a new ground and have sadly failed time after time. If we leave it to them to come up with a new proposal, it could be 10 years down the line and be as shit as the Kirkby proposal or as undeliverable as Kings Dock.

 

Someone has to try and do something to get this going and I think its a brilliant idea that could also bring about a much better cohesion of the 2 clubs. Yes the details definately need to be ironed out but I really do believe that these guys have the best interest of the club and surrounding areas at heart.

 

Should be interesting to see what they come up with and to what both clubs say. Although Im not a big fan of the name!

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It is an idea I have had myself a long time ago. Not sure it is a good idea though.

 

However, I really don't know what to make of the fact it has come up now, in respect of finances required to make it happen when the whole country (indeed most of the world) is in a recession and cash is tight.

 

I don't know what will happen now though I can only look forward and hope that whatever happens it is for the best.

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im just being picky now, but everyone keeps saying we are in recession. the government confirmed a couple of weeks back that we are out of recession now. just making a note of that.

 

in regard to the story, sounds a great idea. im still pissed off that the everton collection has no plans to display in a museum. the biggest collection of items about the history of all of footbal, let alone just everton and little bits get put on display piece by piece, when many smaller clubs have museums!

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Looks like it's been dismissed by EFC:

 

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2010/03/02/liverpool-fc-and-everton-fc-talks-fail-to-deliver-sports-city-concept-92534-25939734/

 

I don't quite understand how a cost can be attributed to something which hasn't been looked into i.e. they haven't decided what could be put there. It seems someone has picked a random number (or the cost of two stadiums together).

 

Liverpool Uni, EFC Shareholders Association and the Council were pushing for a feasibility report to be commissioned so I don't know why EFC and or LFC decided not to.

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Looks like it's been dismissed by EFC:

 

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2010/03/02/liverpool-fc-and-everton-fc-talks-fail-to-deliver-sports-city-concept-92534-25939734/

 

I don't quite understand how a cost can be attributed to something which hasn't been looked into i.e. they haven't decided what could be put there. It seems someone has picked a random number (or the cost of two stadiums together).

 

Liverpool Uni, EFC Shareholders Association and the Council were pushing for a feasibility report to be commissioned so I don't know why EFC and or LFC decided not to.

 

 

 

It was laughed off at the shareholders meeting as well, everybody had dismissed it and walked out within half an hour.

Unfortunately it does seem to be nothing more than a fanciful dream and there is more chance of Milky coming up with a good point than there is of anyone coming up withthe money for it

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It was laughed off at the shareholders meeting as well, everybody had dismissed it and walked out within half an hour.

Unfortunately it does seem to be nothing more than a fanciful dream and there is more chance of Milky coming up with a good point than there is of anyone coming up withthe money for it

you've upset me know

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It was laughed off at the shareholders meeting as well, everybody had dismissed it and walked out within half an hour.

Unfortunately it does seem to be nothing more than a fanciful dream and there is more chance of Milky coming up with a good point than there is of anyone coming up withthe money for it

 

Where did you hear that? The Chairman of the Shareholders Association says it went down well and was worth pursuing.

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Where did you hear that? The Chairman of the Shareholders Association says it went down well and was worth pursuing.

 

never listen to duncan he thinks moyes has made a profit from transfers :lol:

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Where did you hear that? The Chairman of the Shareholders Association says it went down well and was worth pursuing.

 

 

I cant remember where I read it but there was a bit in the Echo saying pretty much the same thing

 

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2010/02/23/everton-fc-shareholders-urged-to-question-board-by-keioc-100252-25892565/

 

"He called on the minority shareholders present at Monday night’s meeting to talk to members of the board and try to make their voices heard.

 

“Maybe they’re not listening. I say make them.”

 

By 9.30pm a third of attendees had left and the rest disagreed on the wording of a plea to the board for a new feasibility study.

 

One shareholder asked who would stay in a hotel in Walton while another said the plans were unaffordable."

 

 

 

 

Oh and Milky ok I was wrong Moyse has no longer made a profit I admit I was wrong it turns out he has spent in the region of £14M but that still means he has worked wonders in the transfer market to any sane minded person

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I read that, apparently untrue..

 

One person and their mother disagreed with wording and nobody left until the football quarter/sports city presentation was made. Not sure why the press have reported that :|

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I read that, apparently untrue..

 

One person and their mother disagreed with wording and nobody left until the football quarter/sports city presentation was made. Not sure why the press have reported that :|

 

Obviously it makes a better story.

 

(Or am I just a cynical old Rube?)

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I cant remember where I read it but there was a bit in the Echo saying pretty much the same thing

 

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2010/02/23/everton-fc-shareholders-urged-to-question-board-by-keioc-100252-25892565/

 

"He called on the minority shareholders present at Monday night’s meeting to talk to members of the board and try to make their voices heard.

 

“Maybe they’re not listening. I say make them.”

 

By 9.30pm a third of attendees had left and the rest disagreed on the wording of a plea to the board for a new feasibility study.

 

One shareholder asked who would stay in a hotel in Walton while another said the plans were unaffordable."

 

 

 

 

Oh and Milky ok I was wrong Moyse has no longer made a profit I admit I was wrong it turns out he has spent in the region of £14M but that still means he has worked wonders in the transfer market to any sane minded person

 

all is forgiven.

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As much as I would love to re-develop Goodison its surrounding area will not help generate the funds require to do so - it is true that no-one will want to stay in Walton other than on matchdays. A shiny new hotel will not change that. The perfect opportunity was Kings Dock, which we fluffed up massively. If there is another waterfront plot free somewhere, we need to look into it.

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Cheers for the link Louis

 

I feel the same Mike, slightly more substance then usual in this one & I like the idea of a football quarter would be a big coup for the City.

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for a football quarter to fully realise it's potential we would need a rail link sorting out. Has this been considered or planned? Is there any reading for this?

Any idea what area would be able to accommodate a project of this scale?

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walton and anfield, its based around stanley park

Thanks, thought Stanley park would have been a bit small to fit it all. Should be no transport problems if the kopites already got permission for their plans

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i think the basic idea is to regen goodison and anfield but also regen as much of the surrounding area as possible. would be great, if it could be done, for the whole city.

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The plot thickens.

 

I refuse to get excited...but it's tempting.

exactly what i think tbh, although the thought of it sounds amazing, not just for both clubs, but for the city as a whole

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I've been trying to say this for a long while on here... corporate facilities!!!

"Crucially it also envisages Goodison becoming an economically-viable SMART stadium that could be used 365 days a year to generate money instead of only for nine months."

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Merseyside has two fantastic clubs, within spitting distance of each other, and great open parkland between - but the council (and possibly the people) fail to harness that.

The park remains 'so so' and not particular appealing in the grand scheme, and the two stadiums are very much just for football really. No great 'play' is made of either let along both combined.

 

Basically they are wasted opportunities.

 

 

It would take a huge transformation in the council's, clubs' and people's mindset, but the whole area should be an attraction for families, visitors and anybody looking for entertainment, sporting or otherwise.

 

Sort of like a Central Park feel. Coffee shops, concerts, events etc. The club's stadiums need to be more open - utilised every day of the week more or less (on a much larger scale than currently). Fountains in the park, picnic areas, everton and liverpool histories - just a very 'European / cosmopolitan' feel.

 

If the vandals and other morons can be sorted out, it's the ONLY way forward to really turn things around.

 

If you get shipped out to some industrial wasteland, you'll end up like Bolton with a retail park next door, or City with nothing nearby of any note.

 

IF both clubs want to keep much of their heritage - then this is the only real way forwards. Yes it will cost money, and yes, the council shouldn't be subsidising either of the clubs, BUT it's a win/win/win situation for all to combine for the greater good of Liverpool.

 

The rivalry is to be kept and celebrated, but it's a selling point too. Maybe market it as 'The most watched footballing square mile in the world' (or similar).

 

 

But instead, Stanley Park will remain a nice bit of land that's really going to waste in grand scheme of things, and two clubs trying to compete in a much more commercial world than ever. One with Americans trying to make a quick buck, and one bloody skint.

 

3 mediocre propositions in truths - when it could be ONE superb proposition that celebrates all 3 aspects.

 

Can you imagine the job created? the pride created in Liverpool folks building that place? making it together - red and blue - where nobody in London could do it, nobody in Manchester could do it. You have TWO stadiums so close... BLOODY use it to your advantage!!!

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should be interesting, but im not exactly sure what could be in it without the backing of the clubs. unless the council really get behind it.

maybe we could get the Blue Union to demonstrate for something positive and back this?

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does anybody know if the Jain Group are here to invest/build the football quarter and not invest in the club, would that allow us to then borrow from the banks again against future earnings? as the cost of the stadium will be in someone elses hands?

 

im slightly concerned that Bill may see it as a chance to appease the fans with some quick transfer cash

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http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/sport/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2012/04/05/special-business-zone-status-considered-for-liverpool-fc-and-everton-fc-football-quarter-proposals-99623-30695083/

 

City bosses are musing over testing the popularity of the proposal by erecting big screens in Stanley Park for a high-profile match next season, where food and drink could be on sale, encouraging supporters to gather outside.

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