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I think we should get in Anderson, Jonjo Shelvey and Donavon because we have got that keeper Jan Mucha in and we could get Beckford and we have a chance of getting Senderos on a free.

 

I think we should get rid of Yobo and Hibbert and those two young amrican strikers

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Someone who I think would be a brilliant signing for us would be Hleb. Admittingly his price tag would be fairly steep but he works hard, has fantastic ability and Im fairly sure he would fancy coming back to England. He is at Stuttgart at the mo and was very good against Barca yesterday and I imagine he would probably want CL footy but IMO he fits the bill for the type of player that Everton should be looking at if Donovan isnt signed or Pienaar moves on.

 

Im not sure who I would want out the team. I dont really like Hibbert as a player or Yobo but I do have a soft spot for them I wouldnt like to see them go. Distin is another one who I think we could afford to leave if we got Senderos in.

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I think the squad make-up is pretty sound....certainly wouldn't get rid of Hibbert and Yobo.

 

We may need a bit of like for like replacement if anyone leaves but we've got the keeper so if we can tie down Donovan (or if not get someone similar) I don't think we're in desperate need anywhere. Maybe left-back cover?

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I actually can't think of any single player that I think we'd need to offload. Can't think of one that I would want us to offload.

But since it's been pretty obvious from earlier seasons that we need to sell in order to sign I think that the few players that I can understand if we sell are Distin and Anichebe. Sad thing is that would at best give us maybe 4-5 mil £ and that doesn't buy a lot these days.

 

If we could somehow guarantee that we have the chance to sign us a striker with world class work rate and holding abilities I would advocate selling Yakubu as well to finance this. I know chances are slim to find someone of this quality at a decent price though.

I'd be extremely pleased if we could maintain the squad we have today and sign Donovan permanently for next season. Might be the selling of Distin and Anichebe could fund this but that's about the extent of what I would be willing to sacrifice..

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anderson would cost a fortune in wages, we dont need another AM to warm the bench and Donovan... Well, i would love him to sign but not sure its likely.

 

Never get rid of Hibbert, it would be doing him a disservice after all the years he has put in for us and he is a good squad player. Yobo is a great backup player to have too. The 2 young american lads, dunno what to do with them but dont see them making a huge finacial affect so dont care either way.

 

The most important signing would be Pienaar signing a new 5 year contract and Donovan too. Competition for Baines and another striker if we can, think the midfield is looking pretty full of choice! Id take Senderos on a free if hes going on a free just for the numbers...

 

Just curious Dave, how old are you?

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I feel we have an excellent squad now and with everybody fit i think we just need another forward with pace and a wideman.Obviously we want to keep Donovan and if that means selling somebody i would sell Yobo to pay for Landon and sell The Yak who is probably nearer thirty than we think for about £9 million and go in for Vagner Love. Keep Senderos for cover and we have competion all over the park.

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Reading some news article today it sounds like Lucas Jutkiewicz wants to stay at Motherwell and that they want to keep him.

 

He has scored 10 goals in 23 games for them and is a young 20 year old striker what kind of fee can we expect for him?

 

With Beckford, the new goalie, and hopefully Senderos staying we could sell Distin and maybe someone else and bring in Donovan.

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Reading some news article today it sounds like Lucas Jutkiewicz wants to stay at Motherwell and that they want to keep him.

 

He has scored 10 goals in 23 games for them and is a young 20 year old striker what kind of fee can we expect for him?

 

With Beckford, the new goalie, and hopefully Senderos staying we could sell Distin and maybe someone else and bring in Donovan.

for a scottish club? buttons...

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Lando is the one signing I'm dying to see this summer. Hopefully DM and BK are in constant talks with MLS to get him here for the rest of this season (as we need him out right). Other than him, I would love to see another RB, Maicon perhaps? :D Also a LB and a striker, maybe Philipe Lahm and Jozy Altidore. God, that would be a summer.

 

Leaving I wouldn't mind off-loading Vic, Yobo, Jutkiewicz or even JV for the right sum. I would say Hibbert, but as much as I don't fancy him as a starter, the lad bleeds blue and for that I would hope BK and DM never do him wrong. Also, I'm still waiting for that goal so we can RIOT! :lol:

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anderson would cost a fortune in wages, we dont need another AM to warm the bench and Donovan... Well, i would love him to sign but not sure its likely.

 

Never get rid of Hibbert, it would be doing him a disservice after all the years he has put in for us and he is a good squad player. Yobo is a great backup player to have too. The 2 young american lads, dunno what to do with them but dont see them making a huge finacial affect so dont care either way.

 

The most important signing would be Pienaar signing a new 5 year contract and Donovan too. Competition for Baines and another striker if we can, think the midfield is looking pretty full of choice! Id take Senderos on a free if hes going on a free just for the numbers...

 

Just curious Dave, how old are you?

 

Just what i thought when i read the opening post. ;)

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It'll definately be interesting to see which teams go down this year,could be a few bargains to be had in the summer. The way things are going it wouldnt suprise me to see Sunderland go down, and despite their utter utter shitness this year, they do have the odd player which could work well in our system ( Bent, Turner etc etc). Same applies with Bolton, it would be worth a punt to try and get gary cahill if they go down....hmmm two cahills in one team, what are the odds?!! Hypothetically aside, I would like to see cover for Baines, and if we can't sign Donovan then at least he's shown us what we've been missing for so long, a pacey natural attack minded right winger.Its a shame Johnson went to City, he would have been an ideal, and not budget busting, summer signing.

 

With regards to players going out, I wouldnt be too upset if Anichebe went ( 4-5m possibly?!). sadly I can see some of our current in-form players attracting alot of attention towards the end of the summer...Pienaar, Baines, Saha, Heitinga. Lets just hope we can keep hold and keep everyone fecking injury free for the start of next season!

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Lando is the one signing I'm dying to see this summer. Hopefully DM and BK are in constant talks with MLS to get him here for the rest of this season (as we need him out right). Other than him, I would love to see another RB, Maicon perhaps? :D Also a LB and a striker, maybe Philipe Lahm and Jozy Altidore. God, that would be a summer.

 

Leaving I wouldn't mind off-loading Vic, Yobo, Jutkiewicz or even JV for the right sum. I would say Hibbert, but as much as I don't fancy him as a starter, the lad bleeds blue and for that I would hope BK and DM never do him wrong. Also, I'm still waiting for that goal so we can RIOT! :lol:

 

 

You think Altidore would be worth a punt, or is that just Yankee bias; because if it is I understand. I do like his upside, he honestly reminds me of what I like about the Yak, yet he's generations younger. While his touch isn't the greatest, he is clever, and damn powerful. The things is, he's best with a target man by his side. Who knows.

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Diving cheating Italians win you games.

dude.... that picture is distracting....

 

Pretty sure there was no automatic yellow for deliberate handball back then

I remember that! was wondering what the hell he was doing. That is the exception that proves my rule that all italian footballers are whining cheating sleazy greasy bastards....

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Got some bad shouts there Dave!

I reckon we could afford to let hibbo go, and sunderland wud prob snap him up, but i still dont want him to leave, neither do i reckon yobo should leave.Maybe osman, we can afford to let him go and definatley the Yak, his work rate is 0 and the fact when we play one striker he goes and stands next to pienaar baffles me.

Bringing in, i reckon that Graham Dorrans from west brom could be a good signing. 13 goals from 22 appearances and hes only 22 shows hes got somethin there. Also i wouldnt mind that pacey lad from sporting, yano their left winger who kept running at neville, i think we need a player like that.

I do think we need another holding midfeilder, maybe Javi Garcia from benefica, i reckon he could do a job, and maybe for 7 million euros

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if we could afford and get him, lee catermole, or jamie o'hara. both great young talents.

leave lucas at motherwell for another year or two on loan, and ruddy. doing them both good, might as well keep them settled and improving.

we need pace, if donovan goes he will need to be replaced by someone fast, very very fast! whos the guy we wanted from inter?

a left back, nicky shorey would do for cover.

if a good striker is available, get one.

vic and vaughan could both do with a loan in the championship if we could get one more senior/proven striker in.

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if we could afford and get him, lee catermole, or jamie o'hara. both great young talents.

leave lucas at motherwell for another year or two on loan, and ruddy. doing them both good, might as well keep them settled and improving.

we need pace, if donovan goes he will need to be replaced by someone fast, very very fast! whos the guy we wanted from inter?

a left back, nicky shorey would do for cover.

if a good striker is available, get one.

vic and vaughan could both do with a loan in the championship if we could get one more senior/proven striker in.

 

Great shout on both of them Steve, I was gutterd we didnt try and get Cattermole when he went from Wigan (he left for under 5 mil didnt he!! :blink:,)

 

I think the right back position is a must, Neville can do half a job but we need a highier quality in that position in order for us to progress as a club.

 

I would loan Vaughny out and sell Vic, hes strong but I don't see him cutting the mustard at us to be honest.

 

Definatly need pace on the wing, a permanent move for Jason would be great but if not I think we need to look elsewhere; its certainly made a difference having a bit of speed to get us going this season.

 

Possibly a new striker, it looks to me that the Yak's days might be numbered, and even if they arn't, a striker that isnt lazy would be nice (Take note Saha).

 

Oh...

 

 

and sell Neville

 

:D

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Great shout on both of them Steve, I was gutterd we didnt try and get Cattermole when he went from Wigan (he left for under 5 mil didnt he!! :blink:,)

 

£6m they paid, bargain! his wiki page shows a lot about his character too.

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we need pace, if donovan goes he will need to be replaced by someone fast, very very fast! whos the guy we wanted from inter?

Just have a small feeling that Davey would think long and hard before buying a replacement for Landon (right sided forward/winger) from Inter :unsure: .

 

Speaking of which http://www.psv.nl/News/News-page/PSV-sign-free-agent-Andy-van-der-Meyde.htm

 

Good luck to him I say ;) .

 

(Just noticed that that's been posted in the shoutbox already :( )

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this summer could see big changes.

A few regulars are starting to drop down the pecking order.

Players like yobo nev hibbert and the yak may want to move on and i don't think any one would stop them.

If we don't get european ffotball Pienaar may leave and Rodwell may have a big decision to make in the summer.

Obviously ins will be affected by outs but for me the squad needs pace and a back-up lb

 

I would look at pederson as a squad player on a free then possibly try and get swp always looks good and we are his level.

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I would like us to sign Cairney from Hull. He is only young but looks a very clever player, similar style to arteta.

 

Out goings I dont think there would be any except YT's. I have to admit I wouldnt be sad to see Distin go as Iv never rated him and I think the Yak has struggled of late too.

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I would like us to sign Cairney from Hull. He is only young but looks a very clever player, similar style to arteta.

 

Out goings I dont think there would be any except YT's. I have to admit I wouldnt be sad to see Distin go as Iv never rated him and I think the Yak has struggled of late too.

tom cairney was the best player for hull today and scored a great goal today and get that sporting striker in look relly good player plays a bit like nani

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tom cairney was the best player for hull today and scored a great goal today and get that sporting striker in look relly good player plays a bit like nani

 

Cairney is a quality shout, looked very good today plus as you stay, still young!

 

Anichebe has got to be an out for me...

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I'm not particularly bothered if we don't sign anyone as long as we keep the team together. I'd possibly let Vaughan go but aside from that keep everyone and if we have a fully fit team I honestly think we can get into the top 4, to be honest I think we could even possibly go for the title - having seen Utd and Chelsea this season. We must have the best midfield in the league, Arteta yesterday showed just how brilliant he is, now his fitness is coming back so is his touch and speed of play, he could be the best midfielder in the league next season, I honestly think he is that good. Pienaar is brilliant, Rodwell looks like he could be the real deal in the attacking midfield position (needs to get involved a little more but he loves getting into the box, has two great feet etc, I now think he would be wasted in defence and he should take over from Cahill) Fellaini or Heitinga could be fantastic DMs and then the only slight weakness is RW. We also have great strength in depth with Osman, Cahill and Bily etc slotting in somewhere when needed. Defence is solid, we also have a lot of cover except at LB. Up front we have the Yak (who is looking like much more like it recently, he could be our long term answer if he keeps this up, he is far more mobile than Saha and his link up play can be sublime) Anichebe (who I think will come through big time) and Saha, we could possibly do with one real quality striker just in case Yak decides to go back to being lazy but hopefully we have enough.

 

I think we have an awesome squad with some brilliant players as well as some potentially brilliant players coming through. Next season should be the real deal for us, we just need to keep players fit and have a decent start, if we do that I can see us being in the top 3/4 all season. Not only that but I cannot wait to see some of the football, with Arteta, Pienaar, Rodwell, Fellaini, Yakubu in our team some of our football will be electric.

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I'm not particularly bothered if we don't sign anyone as long as we keep the team together. I'd possibly let Vaughan go but aside from that keep everyone and if we have a fully fit team I honestly think we can get into the top 4, to be honest I think we could even possibly go for the title - having seen Utd and Chelsea this season. We must have the best midfield in the league, Arteta yesterday showed just how brilliant he is, now his fitness is coming back so is his touch and speed of play, he could be the best midfielder in the league next season, I honestly think he is that good. Pienaar is brilliant, Rodwell looks like he could be the real deal in the attacking midfield position (needs to get involved a little more but he loves getting into the box, has two great feet etc, I now think he would be wasted in defence and he should take over from Cahill) Fellaini or Heitinga could be fantastic DMs and then the only slight weakness is RW. We also have great strength in depth with Osman, Cahill and Bily etc slotting in somewhere when needed. Defence is solid, we also have a lot of cover except at LB. Up front we have the Yak (who is looking like much more like it recently, he could be our long term answer if he keeps this up, he is far more mobile than Saha and his link up play can be sublime) Anichebe (who I think will come through big time) and Saha, we could possibly do with one real quality striker just in case Yak decides to go back to being lazy but hopefully we have enough.

 

I think we have an awesome squad with some brilliant players as well as some potentially brilliant players coming through. Next season should be the real deal for us, we just need to keep players fit and have a decent start, if we do that I can see us being in the top 3/4 all season. Not only that but I cannot wait to see some of the football, with Arteta, Pienaar, Rodwell, Fellaini, Yakubu in our team some of our football will be electric.

 

 

I agree with most of that but I would rather sell Anichebe and keep Vaughan myself. I just really dont rate Anichebe he doesnt do anywhere near enough for me and besides we already have a fat arsed lazy Nigerian forward anyway

Vaughany gives us something different and if he can steer clear of injuries I would play him ahead of Vic any day

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I agree with most of that but I would rather sell Anichebe and keep Vaughan myself. I just really dont rate Anichebe he doesnt do anywhere near enough for me and besides we already have a fat arsed lazy Nigerian forward anyway

Vaughany gives us something different and if he can steer clear of injuries I would play him ahead of Vic any day

What you're saying will probably be pretty popular but whenever I watch Vaughan the only thing I think he has going for him is energy, his control is poor, his finishing isn't great, he's not overly strong and only ok in the air. Anichebe is a beast, physically VERY strong, he's direct, he goes towards goal, his control is pretty decent, he has some vision and not a bad shot on him, excellent in the air and his energy and workrate is improving all the time, he just needs to stay injury free. Anichebe has everything needed to be a fantastic striker, he just needs to keep the right mentality, I think he's done a pretty decent job on the wing and his goal should have stood yesterday. Moyes always picks Anichebe over Vaughan, even when Anichebe has hardly trained so you have to assume Moyes rates him higher than Vaughan. Vaughan's control just isn't good enough at the moment. I like Anichebe, he puts himself about and on his day he will be virtually unplayable. He just needs to stay clear of injuries now and get a run up front, he's obviously not going to be a world class winger (although he does a job) but I think he could become a VERY good striker. I certainly would see no sense in selling someone with his raw attributes. Only time will tell though, I certainly think that Saha's playing time should be limited now - I know he's had a good season but we look so much better with the Yak up front when he is on his game, his energy and pace give us so many more options.

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Keep Vaughan and Anichebe, both have potential and youth on their side.I can't imagine were paying big bucks in wages for either of them yet.They offer completely different styles, and on their day and fully fit could offer massive problems to opponents if played as strike partners.

 

Next season we could really fly, if we keep all of our players, add a couple more and be lucky with injuries, I'd say we have as good a chance at top 4 as most.

 

It's easy to be upbeat after a 5-1 thrashing......not so easy after the Sporting Lisbon game and first half Tottenham.

 

Bigger picture at the moment is, we do have what looks like a very good squad when all are fit.

 

I wouldn't want to sell Yobo either, he can still play a big part at Everton.

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Keep everyone at the squad at the moment. If we sign donovan then i think we need a maximum three players. We definately need a back up left back because if Baines gets injured then we no comfortable cover for him. Possibly need another striker thats clinical, maybe asking a bit too much there though. Dont think moyes will sign senderos so dont know if he would like an extra centre half as emergency cover. So hopefully in the summer we will sign:

 

Donovan

Left back cover

Striker?

Extra centre half?

 

If we get these in the summer then we have one hell of a squad i must say. Definately should target top with that squad. Personally feel we can do it as well.

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Donovan If possible i would love us to keep hold of him

Left back cover Joe Mattock would be a good addition also Danny Fox from Burnely would be decent cover/competition for Baines

Striker? I would take a punt on Steven Fletcher from Burnley he's only 22 looks fairly decent infront of goal and can make himself a handfull would be a good foil for Saha

Extra centre half? Dependant on whether we keep hold of both Distin and Senderos and we also have Yobo spare if Moyes goes with Johnny and Jags in the middle

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You're not the first person to mention Ossie.

 

How anyone can consider letting him go after his performance against ManU is totally beyond me. Shows what he's capable of....you can say he doesn't do it often enough but he's not the sort of player who's going to excel when we're playing badly. As part of an Everton on form (which will hopefully be most of the time now) he's a huge asset....not an automatic choice like Arteta & Pienaar but a great squad member. Plus he's one of ours, which counts for something imo.

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we haven't got a big enough squad to let players leave...not sure about danny fox didnt we let him leave a few years back cos he wasn't good enough for us? i like mattock he would be good competition for baines i reckon! maybe get a striker in on loan to keep the funds for a right winger(donovan or otherwise) and also we have anichebe and vaughan who i still think will both come good!

 

right winger and left back for competition and to give baines a rest at times and maybe a striker on loan!

i'd be happy enough with that!

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Out

 

Neville

Yobo

Ossie

Gosling

Baxter

 

In

New Right back

New Striker

Right winger

 

Jesus christ get rid of

neville, when he dooesn't play we lack his leadership, never play as well when he isnt in the team. Coincidence, i think not

yobo, I think he has been a good player for us and although he has the odd lapse in concentration, he is a very good back up

ossie, no way, he has been here since the start of his career and although was a red, he now bleeds blue, on his day possibly our best technician

gosling, he is young and seems to have a knack for being in the correct place at the correct time, starting to look a little stronger

baxter, i think we need to give jose a few more years, he is a young lad and has the potential to be a good player.

 

If it was up to me, i would sell nobody. IMO we need a right winger, cover at left back and a striker (maybe). Although Moyes knows more than all of us. In moyes we trust

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in

landon donovan

raid wigan for figueroa, n'zogbia and rodallega

 

out

nash

jukebox

cahill if we got a good offer

distin(only if we brought in senderos)

vaughan/anichebe(loan)

 

howard

neville jags heitinga figueroa

pienaar arteta fellaini n'zogbia

saha yakubu

 

coleman, baines, yobo, rodwell, bily, donovan, rodallega

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Jesus christ get rid of

neville, when he dooesn't play we lack his leadership, never play as well when he isnt in the team. Coincidence, i think not

yobo, I think he has been a good player for us and although he has the odd lapse in concentration, he is a very good back up

ossie, no way, he has been here since the start of his career and although was a red, he now bleeds blue, on his day possibly our best technician

gosling, he is young and seems to have a knack for being in the correct place at the correct time, starting to look a little stronger

baxter, i think we need to give jose a few more years, he is a young lad and has the potential to be a good player.

 

If it was up to me, i would sell nobody. IMO we need a right winger, cover at left back and a striker (maybe). Although Moyes knows more than all of us. In moyes we trust

 

 

I couldnt agree more, Neville is a superb club captain and it wouldnt surprise me to see him offered a caoching role at the club when he does retire

 

I think Ossie is the most underated player at the club if we had paid £10M for him and he had a few more vowels in his name people would probably love him. I have never understood the stick he gets even if he doesnt make peoples starting XI surely people can see the benefit of haveing a player like him on the bench

 

As for Yobo fair enough he has always got a mistake in him but he is still light years ahead of Distin and Senderos for me and I would be sad to see him go

 

 

I dont think Danny Fox or Joe Mattock are anywhere near good enough I would say they are both decent Championship players at best and I cant beleive pete0 wnats to drop Bainsey and replace him with Figueroa...... well no actually I can

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You're not the first person to mention Ossie.

 

How anyone can consider letting him go after his performance against ManU is totally beyond me. Shows what he's capable of....you can say he doesn't do it often enough but he's not the sort of player who's going to excel when we're playing badly. As part of an Everton on form (which will hopefully be most of the time now) he's a huge asset....not an automatic choice like Arteta & Pienaar but a great squad member. Plus he's one of ours, which counts for something imo.

 

Starting with the last bit 1st, he isnt. He is a redsh*te.

 

The man united game was a one off and he has done it in the past, playing well in 1 game and Evertonians suddenly think he is good when he quite clearly is never going to cut it on a regular basis. He is 28 now, when is he ever going to cut it? Sell him to a lower league side and let him shine

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Jesus christ get rid of

neville, when he dooesn't play we lack his leadership, never play as well when he isnt in the team. Coincidence, i think not

yobo, I think he has been a good player for us and although he has the odd lapse in concentration, he is a very good back up

ossie, no way, he has been here since the start of his career and although was a red, he now bleeds blue, on his day possibly our best technician

gosling, he is young and seems to have a knack for being in the correct place at the correct time, starting to look a little stronger

baxter, i think we need to give jose a few more years, he is a young lad and has the potential to be a good player.

 

If it was up to me, i would sell nobody. IMO we need a right winger, cover at left back and a striker (maybe). Although Moyes knows more than all of us. In moyes we trust

 

Oh dear, another victim of the con job that his Neville's fabled leadership. We struggled when Pienaar was out and not Neville, we started playing well again (after the derby) when Pienaar came back and players started playing in there proper position again.

This nonsense that it was Neville is a disgrace to players who are worthy of the shirt, not this nobody who has the skill factor of a newt, he isnt good enough and never will be.

Agree on Yobo to an extent, but he has lost it and doesnt look like ever coming to back to the Yobo we know he can play like.

Ossie our best technician? Not worthy of a comment, its just plain wrong

Gosling, No skill, no pace. Dont be distracted by 1 deflected goal and 1 goal from 6 yards out with a open goal.

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Starting with the last bit 1st, he isnt. He is a redsh*te.

And Carragher's a Blue :blink: .

 

Ancient history. Peter Reid was Red, I'd like to see someone tell him that that means he still is.

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And Carragher's a Blue :blink: .

 

Ancient history. Peter Reid was Red, I'd like to see someone tell him that that means he still is.

 

Dont disagree, it was you who said he was 1 of us. He isnt, he still is a red and he openly admits it

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Out

Neville

Yobo

Ossie

Gosling

Baxter

 

In

New Right back

New Striker

Right winger

 

they would be very bad moves.

 

i'd be tempted to sell either distin or yobo to raise some funds if we get senderos on a free. other than that though i wouldn't really let anyone go, maybe the yak if we could get what we paid (unlikely unless spurs are in) and a decent replacement.

 

work the free transfer market, back-up left back, and maybe beckford so we could send jv or vic out on loan for a season.

 

right winger is the one area i think that we really need to make a deal, would like donovan back ideally but hleb would be nice ;)

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Dont disagree, it was you who said he was 1 of us.

I said he's one of ours (by which I mean he's been with us since he was fifteen/sixteen) which he is.

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landon donovan

raid wigan for figueroa, n'zogbia and rodallega

 

out

nash

jukebox

cahill if we got a good offer

distin(only if we brought in senderos)

vaughan/anichebe(loan)

 

howard

neville jags heitinga figueroa

pienaar arteta fellaini n'zogbia

saha yakubu

 

coleman, baines, yobo, rodwell, bily, donovan, rodallega

 

figueroa over baines? put the pipe down!

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I said he's one of ours (by which I mean he's been with us since he was fifteen/sixteen) which he is.

 

Fair enough, either way he is had enough time to cement a place and it isnt going to happen. We all know it isnt

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Fair enough, either way he is had enough time to cement a place and it isnt going to happen. We all know it isnt

He's played 185 games in six seasons, that's thirty plus a year during our most successful period for twenty years.

 

Came seventh in our player of the season last year behind Pienaar, Jagielka, Fellaini, Baines, Arteta and Cahill and won four man of the matches.

If you're suggesting we should only keep players who are cemented into a first team place we'd have a squad of eleven.

We need depth and he's a very decent player.

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He's played 185 games in six seasons, that's thirty plus a year during our most successful period for twenty years.

 

Came seventh in our player of the season last year behind Pienaar, Jagielka, Fellaini, Baines, Arteta and Cahill and won four man of the matches.

If you're suggesting we should only keep players who are cemented into a first team place we'd have a squad of eleven.

We need depth and he's a very decent player.

 

We dont need squad players, we need 1st teamers to take us on thus leaving the 1st teamers who arent good enough to become the squad player. The term flogging a dead horse is an accurate description of Ossie

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I'm all for the Jose Mourinho 2 quality players for each position so...

 

...........................Howard/Mucha....................

Neville/Hibbert...Heitinga/Yobo..Jags/Distin...Baines/???

........................Fellaini/??? ....................

..................Arteta/Osman.....Cahill/Rodwell..........

Anichebe/Gosling...............................Pienaar/Bily

..........................Yak/Saha/(Vaughan)................

 

Based on this...

- we need back-up for baines

- we need another (defensive)central midfielder

- we need a right winger (we look poor optionwise on the right without dovovan)

- we could do with another striker

- maybe it's time for coleman to challenge nev for rb over hibbo

 

I'm not going to start naming replacements but some players (kind of realistic) who I would have are...

- lee/ muamba (bolton)

- behrami/faubert (west ham)

- rodellega/ n'zogbia/ mccarthy (wigan)

- dorrans (west brom)

- fletcher (burnley)

- cattermole/ bent (sunderland)

- cairney (hull)

- o'hara/jenas/bentley/naughton (spurs)

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I'm all for the Jose Mourinho 2 quality players for each position so...

 

...........................Howard/Mucha....................

Neville/Hibbert...Heitinga/Yobo..Jags/Distin...Baines/???

........................Fellaini/??? ....................

..................Arteta/Osman.....Cahill/Rodwell..........

Anichebe/Gosling...............................Pienaar/Bily

..........................Yak/Saha/(Vaughan)................

 

Based on this...

- we need back-up for baines

- we need another (defensive)central midfielder

- we need a right winger (we look poor optionwise on the right without dovovan)

- we could do with another striker

- maybe it's time for coleman to challenge nev for rb over hibbo

 

I'm not going to start naming replacements but some players (kind of realistic) who I would have are...

- lee/ muamba (bolton)

- behrami/faubert (west ham)

- rodellega/ n'zogbia/ mccarthy (wigan)

- dorrans (west brom)

- fletcher (burnley)

- cattermole/ bent (sunderland)

- cairney (hull)

- o'hara/jenas/bentley/naughton (spurs)

 

quite a nice in depth assessment although, i'd say gosling shouldn't be considered for the right, but in the middle. rodwell to the ? next to fellaini or maybe neville with coleman being another option at rb? and also bily i don't think should be considered for the left either, again in the middle.

 

so with that said, i think...

back-up left back as you said.

right winger is a necessity

back-up left winger

 

depending on who's available as you said maybe another striker, beckford?

from you're list of potential targets, wouldn't go near jenas or naughton, fletcher, behrami, fabuert but the others could work well although i don't see any of them being too cheap and i don't think many of them would slot into a fully fit 11. i think you could make the squad stronger with the sale of the yak and distin/yobo...but i'd only accept that if the money got put back into the team and in that case we'd certainly need to invest up top as as well as other areas so it might not be worth it (depending on the budget we'll get anyway).

 

has martin petrov signed a new deal yet? might be a cheap short-term fix on the wing...don't like him massively as a person, but with our budget...

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We deemed Jags and Baines as not good enough as well, they're not doing too badly these days are they?

 

true but i think fox got more time than these two and also hasn't been away as long as they have either...not done enough in my opinion and won't ever get better than he is...which isn't good enough for our back up

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We dont need squad players, we need 1st teamers to take us on thus leaving the 1st teamers who arent good enough to become the squad player. The term flogging a dead horse is an accurate description of Ossie

 

I think you're the red. Not Ossie. It's clear the man loves the club, and while he might not be a world beater he is good enough to be a squad player in the great majority of teams.

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