DangerMouse Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Tim Cahill hasnt been at his best this lately and hasn't really had the impact of previous seasons...do you think this is due to injury or does the team now just perform better playing a different way? Games just seem to pass Cahill by when he plays in that central role and he rarely offers anything except an attacking threat at set pieces. I personally think he should be used on occasion when game tactics permit.... He performs brilliantly in that role just behind the lone forward but that still requires and encourages us to play a more direct long ball game.... Is that really what Everton are now? Osman has performed well recently and has changed games by adding a little composure into the midfield... if only he was more consistent... So should Cahill be dropped as we perform better without him or is he an important part of our starting 11.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 It's been time all season long IMO. If he's being replaced as the supporting midfielder to the striker then I'd go for Bily; I think he'd be brilliant floating around there. But if it's as a central midfielder then I'd put Osman in for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted March 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 It's been time all season long IMO. If he's being replaced as the supporting midfielder to the striker then I'd go for Bily; I think he'd be brilliant floating around there. But if it's as a central midfielder then I'd put Osman in for him. Im guessing Billy may get his chance next season...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I cant see Cahill as a bench warmer, if he's fit he's going to want to play.Have always said he's pretty much a one trick pony....but hey what a trick!With the right striker to play behind and with the rest of the team playing to his strenghts, then he really shines.Unplayable at times, sadly this season we haven't seen too much of that.Maybe injuries are catching up with him. What to do!....This is why Moyes picks up a massive pay cheque. Couple of seasons back he would have been maybe the first name on the team sheet, thoughs days are gone I think. Let's don't write him off yet!.....I hope he can regain his form and continues to piss off every opponent he comes up against. But to answer the queation, should he be dropped....in general midfield, yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Although cahill was mediocre at best in the early part of the season (and the last couple of games) he was really starting to get involved before he got injured. He was probably one of our best players in the couple of games leading up to his injury. I think Cahill's days are becoming numbered but he can still play a big part as long as he remembers what he is therefore and doesnt try doing to much. His job is to bridge the midfield and attack, not to play as a midfielder (like he did against Bolton) and not to play as an out and out striker. No defence will like playing against him as a supporting striker but they will be licking their lips if he plays in midfield, or plays too far forward where he is easier to pick up. I wouldnt write him off yet, he has had a couple of poor displays on the back of an injury before which he was one of our best players. Although I do agree with the OP who says we play more direct with him in the team, which I am not a fan of. My preferred replacement would be Rodwell as I think he has been fantastic at bridging the gap between Yakubu and the midfield in previous games but I wouldnt object to seeing Billy there either, at least for a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 On current form, yes he should be dropped and I voted for Osman to replace him. But Cahill turned 30 only a couple of months ago. By no means is he "done" or are his days numbered in my opinion. He's got at least three more good years in him, during which he will be one of the first names on the team sheet. (unless next year Bily becomes what he was bought for and Rodwell and Fellaini continue to fulfill their potentional, but I imagine that's still at least about two years away). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I've added "Shouldn't be replaced" to the second poll.....otherwise if you vote "no" to the first one you still have to vote for someone to replace him . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 it hurts but yes, his form this season hasnt been all that great. I went for Ossie (no surprises there im sure) because i think its his best position, either in the centre along side Arteta or behind the striker, he is great in either position. Not sure why Johnny or Jack are there, wrong position entirely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 it hurts but yes, his form this season hasnt been all that great. I went for Ossie (no surprises there im sure) because i think its his best position, either in the centre along side Arteta or behind the striker, he is great in either position. Not sure why Johnny or Jack are there, wrong position entirely! I would have to disagree with that slightly. I believe in time to come Jack will be able to play in a more advanced midfield role. He strikes me as a player when fully matured who could play right through the centre of a park whether defence or midfield or attacking midfield. It depends how moyes ends up moulding him. Also i didnt know who to replace him with like Mike... I believe billy as i think romey mentioned to play there to let him float about, he likes getting in dangerous areas, but as someone else said thats not to next season, and mid next season at that. Decisions Decisions!! Who would have thought it at Everton eh! haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 When we talk about who could replace Cahill in the role just behind the striker, I seriously believe that at his best he's irreplaceable.Those mentioned and as yet unmentioned will have to bring something different to the table because they wont be able to do what Cahill at his best could/can do! Who knows a Bily or a Rodwell could be good in that particular role and maybe the team can move on with new tactics. One things for sure Cahill has been like a breath of fresh air at this club in his unique style and I hope he's not finished yet. I'm all for changing tactics to suit opponents, I don't even see why you can't change midway through a game.We've got a good squad and I'd like to think next season when all are fit, teams wont know what the hell to expect.One problem is they are getting used to Cahill in HIS role, as good as he is they are getting better at playing him, that doesn't help his cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 When we talk about who could replace Cahill in the role just behind the striker, I seriously believe that at his best he's irreplaceable.Those mentioned and as yet unmentioned will have to bring something different to the table because they wont be able to do what Cahill at his best could/can do! Who knows a Bily or a Rodwell could be good in that particular role and maybe the team can move on with new tactics. One things for sure Cahill has been like a breath of fresh air at this club in his unique style and I hope he's not finished yet. I'm all for changing tactics to suit opponents, I don't even see why you can't change midway through a game.We've got a good squad and I'd like to think next season when all are fit, teams wont know what the hell to expect.One problem is they are getting used to Cahill in HIS role, as good as he is they are getting better at playing him, that doesn't help his cause. Totally agree I would have voted not to drop him if that had been an option! Bily has been awful this season so why anybody would put him in ahead of Cahill is beyond me. There is a school of thought that Bily will come good next season with a full preseason behind him and I hope that is what happens, but until it does how can people consider him getting anywhere near the starting XI? I also think Cahill will benefit from a full preseason and being able to play in his preffered position next season instead of playing half fit and being expected to fill in, in a variety of roles Personally I am hoping that next season Moyes will be able to pick and choose when and where he decides to deploy Cahill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I would have voted not to drop him if that had been an option! Bily has been awful this season so why anybody would put him in ahead of Cahill is beyond me. There is a school of thought that Bily will come good next season with a full preseason behind him and I hope that is what happens, but until it does how can people consider him getting anywhere near the starting XI? It is an option . Seventeen people have chosen it. And I agree completely with the second para. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 It is an option . Seventeen people have chosen it. And I agree completely with the second para. Lol my apologies didnt realise it had been sorted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 as mark said, it's been time all season...if he's not scoring he's not doing much at all...time to give bily a run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlmc25 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 And I agree completely with the second para. Me too, Cahill hasn't been at his best but his campaign has been disrupted due to injury and the service from the wings has been pretty dire. He's better in the air than Bily, more aggressive and quicker - hopefully Bily will come good next season but at the moment he doesn't deserve to play ahead of Cahill in any position. Personally I'd pick Rodwell, I haven't always been his biggest fan in midfield (DM he looks too naive and out of his depth) but in his games as an attacking midfielder he has looked like possibly our (slower) version of Steven Gerrard. He gets forward, he can pass, he can shoot and he is physically strong and mobile enough. I've been slightly miffed that he hasn't played more recently as Cahill hasn't really been on his game. That being said, Osman is excellent in CM so I don't really mind who plays out of him and Rodwell, both should be picked over Cahill now until he's totally match sharp at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 as mark said, it's been time all season...if he's not scoring he's not doing much at all...time to give bily a run Yeah Bily looks 5 yards too slow, cant tackle, cant pass and cant keep up with the pace of the game so definitely desrves a run in the side ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 ^^^ I agree ^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 neither cahill...at least bily is a goal threat...and yes i realise im saying this after a good cahill performance, he was actually brilliant tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evertonblue Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Timmy will be at Arsenal next year anyhow. Not sure what everyone is talking about. He hasn't had his best season, but hes still been in our top 5 players. At least Moyes knows how good he is. Unlike the rest of you, who don't know how good he is. Hes quality, and our best player. Arsenal awaits. (Wink, notice Bentdner going to Bayern), wink wink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 neither cahill...at least bily is a goal threat...and yes i realise im saying this after a good cahill performance, he was actually brilliant tonight God I wish Bily had played instead of Cahill tonight! Couldnt find a smug as fuck emoticon or I would have used it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Timmy will be at Arsenal next year anyhow. Not sure what everyone is talking about. He hasn't had his best season, but hes still been in our top 5 players. At least Moyes knows how good he is. Unlike the rest of you, who don't know how good he is. Hes quality, and our best player. Arsenal awaits. (Wink, notice Bentdner going to Bayern), wink wink. Long time no see ET...been spending time on Galatasaray forums I guess. Dillusional as ever though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evertonblue Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Funny how a lot of you call cahill crap. Yet he starts every game hes fit. The coach knows more than all you. Cahill is quality. if he didn't get man of the match tonight, than maybe you didn't even watch the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Funny how a lot of you call cahill crap. (Can't believe I'm wasting my time with this but here we go) Can you just, because I must have missed it, point out who has called him crap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 He's probably had 5 or 6 good games this season and that's just not good enough IMO, he's just not as effective as he once was (even in his best position). He should be being phased out of the starting line-up and other players given a go, it's a natural progression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 we haven't really had that chance to phase him out to be fair though..i think he most likely will be next year maybe used more as a sub as rodwell and gosling both mature and bily comes into it more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drs08 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) drop him now eh!?!?? CANNOT believe how short sighted you guys are sometimes, honestly!!! Tiny Tiny Tim RUUUULES!!!! Edited March 25, 2010 by drs08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohen Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 (edited) drop him now eh!?!?? CANNOT believe how short sighted you guys are sometimes, honestly!!! Tiny Tiny Tim RUUUULES!!!! No, 'short-sighted' would be you coming here with no other contribution to the thread other than after he's had a decent game. (I don't agree he should be dropped though.) Edited March 25, 2010 by Kohen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drs08 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 i THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT is A CONTRIBUTION!!!!! here's another one (enjoy!): He wears 17 You know what i mean and the way he plays is way beyond compare. We wouldn't want stevie gerrard (he's shit) when cahill's standin there...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohen Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Which is why I said 'no other' indicating that was your only one! I just don't think short-sighted was the right word, they've taken his seasons performance and thought maybe it's time to see what new blood can produce - for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drs08 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 fair enough and as I said: He wears 17 You know what i mean and the way he plays is way beyond compare. We wouldn't want stevie gerrard (he's shit) when cahill's standin there...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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