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On 06/05/2019 at 10:31, Romey 1878 said:

As long as we're not after this piece of shite.

that is an awful thing to say,  I can not see how anyone can compare Welbeck to a piece of shit, after all the shit has not destroyed the hopes of many fans 

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4 hours ago, Finn balor said:

Don’t get it 

I was saying in an overcomplicated way that comparing him to shit was an insult to shit.

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Everton are leading the charge to sign Arsenal forward Danny Welbeck on a free transfer, reports claim.

Welbeck, 28, is leaving Arsenal after five injury-plagued seasons with West Ham, Newcastle, Crystal Palace and Wolves all credited with interest.

But the Standard say Marco Silva’s Toffees are front-runners.

It’s claimed the Merseyside outfit are prepared to increase his £100,000-a-week salary should he pass a medical.

 

my main issue is his fitness. Well, it’s one of several main issues but I’m just baffled by this link. No way I’d have thought would be looking at him (if it’s all true)

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2 minutes ago, Matt said:

Everton are leading the charge to sign Arsenal forward Danny Welbeck on a free transfer, reports claim.

Welbeck, 28, is leaving Arsenal after five injury-plagued seasons with West Ham, Newcastle, Crystal Palace and Wolves all credited with interest.

But the Standard say Marco Silva’s Toffees are front-runners.

It’s claimed the Merseyside outfit are prepared to increase his £100,000-a-week salary should he pass a medical.

 

my main issue is his fitness. Well, it’s one of several main issues but I’m just baffled by this link. No way I’d have thought would be looking at him (if it’s all true)

Only in football could a player prove he's shite, with an even worse injury record, and get a pay rise.

Jesus fucking wept.

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Welbeck is hardly shit. He's a good player when he's fit but that seems to be a rare occurence. His injure record is enough to swerve him, there's absolutely no need to be stupid and call him shit.

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9 minutes ago, johnh said:

Not sure about him given his injury record but he's better than what we have.  DCL is a better footballer but he just can't score goals.

to be good and fair though john, Welbeck is never going to get better than he can do now, DCL is only going to continue improving all the tie, for now at least..

 

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6 minutes ago, rubecula said:

to be good and fair though john, Welbeck is never going to get better than he can do now, DCL is only going to continue improving all the tie, for now at least..

 

Well, yes and no rubes.  DCL may continue to improve as a footballer but scoring goals is more a natural gift than something you can train for. When the ball is pinging around the penalty area and suddenly falls to your feet, you have maybe half a second to react.  A Jimmy Greaves will have it in the back of the net.  DCL will look up, look around and wonder why his shot is blocked.  Having said that, I don't see many games and quite often only see the highlights, but he does squander a lot of chances. The most worrying misses are those that go straight at the goalie, headers and shots.  It indicates that he doesn't even know where the goalie is - something every decent striker should be aware of at all times. Even worse, it may indicate that he does know where the goalie is but isn'tt capable of finding the space where the goalie isn'tt.  I really hope the lad makes good but I do have my reservations.

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Welbeck is a good striker, but like others have said, his injury record is scary. If he can stay healthy then he'd be a good striker for us. I just don't think he'll stay healthy, so a no from me.

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Ive always maintained he would be a good striker given a run of games but he's injured all the time. Brilliant athlete, that game he played over 2 legs for man United vs Bayern I think it was - was awesome. 

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On the basis that, when fit, he’s much better than Tosun, Niasse, Sandro and DCL, I’d have him in a heartbeat... fitness is the huge issue though! In my opinion, it’s a risk worth taking if we sell Tosun and Niasse (hopefully Sandro too) but we’d need a 3rd striker too. DCL, Welbeck and a first choice striker would be fine by me.

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2 hours ago, Wiggytop said:

Decent player, but we should only consider a pay as you play deal given his injury record.

Them kind of deals just don’t happen. Even Louis Saha got a proper contract. 

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God no! He's awful. Don't know whether he's a striker who can't score, or a winger who can't cross. DCL is better, I've never watched Henry O before but I'd rather risk him or another kid than bring Welbeck here.

I know Walcott isn'tt popular but I was happy we got him over Welbeck, at least Walcott has clear atrributes (pace* and finishing). I don't even know what Welbeck excels at, he's quick but not the fastest and awful in front of goal. 

*I know pace isn'tt a skill (it's a natura ability) but in the league at the moment it's important. 

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He’s a shit striker. His goal record proves that. If he’s fit, he’s an average forward at best. He’s also not the level we should be aiming for. I don’t think he’s an upgrade on Sandro, let alone the others. 

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7 hours ago, StevO said:

Them kind of deals just don’t happen. Even Louis Saha got a proper contract. 

Eventually. He started off pay as you play and insisted you on that (if I remember correctly)

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7 hours ago, pete0 said:

God no! He's awful. Don't know whether he's a striker who can't score, or a winger who can't cross. DCL is better, I've never watched Henry O before but I'd rather risk him or another kid than bring Welbeck here.

I know Walcott isn'ttt popular but I was happy we got him over Welbeck, at least Walcott has clear atrributes (pace* and finishing). I don't even know what Welbeck excels at, he's quick but not the fastest and awful in front of goal. 

*I know pace isn'ttt a skill (it's a natura ability) but in the league at the moment it's important. 

 

1 hour ago, Matt said:

He’s a shit striker. His goal record proves that. If he’s fit, he’s an average forward at best. He’s also not the level we should be aiming for. I don’t think he’s an upgrade on Sandro, let alone the others. 

Thank god. All these "decent" striker comments were making me feel like my head was going to fall off.

Makis said Welbeck is hardly shit and I'd have to agree with him on reflection. He's actually very shit.

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2 hours ago, Matt said:

Eventually. He started off pay as you play and insisted you on that (if I remember correctly)

Saha offered to join on a pay as you play basis and Everton refused that offer and gave him a regular contract. 

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7 hours ago, StevO said:

Saha offered to join on a pay as you play basis and Everton refused that offer and gave him a regular contract. 

That sound more likely :) 

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15 minutes ago, Finn balor said:

Heard from a mate of a mates dog that personal terms have been agreed

Cat I know said he’s on 200k a week with bonuses for his name beginning with a D of 100k.

Gets his own locker as well.

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GWonder whether he'll still make the England squad now he's no longer sitting on a top 6's bench. 

16 goals in 5 seasons at Arsenal, albeit mostly as a sub. Wouldn't be surprised if he has to drop down a division. 

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