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Sigurdsson has been left out of the Swansea team to face Sampdoria amid speculation of a move away.

 

- has he even played a singed friendly? He's going to be bloody rusty when he comes and nowhere near match fit

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Clemment said after the game that there is nothing to report, no developments, no bid accepted no nothing.

 

So it's as you were.

What he's saying is whoever offers the right fee can have him.

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I want us to walk away now and sign someone younger and possibly better.

I wish Barkley was staying the fact he's leaving is down to Koeman he's handled it all wrong.

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I want us to walk away now and sign someone younger and possibly better.

I wish Barkley was staying the fact he's leaving is down to Koeman he's handled it all wrong.

Koeman tried to give him the kick up the arse he needs, if Ross can't handle that we are better off without him

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Nice to see his list of needs and that he is confident in getting all three by the end of the month.

I don't really see Gylfi fitting any of those "needs" that he described... I know he can play out wider, but he's hardly a "winger". Still don't see him being dynamic enough for what we need up front.

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Even with Rooney, gylphi, and Klaasen, the shites midfield is way better than ours, if we were going to spend money we should have bought big.

Liverpools front line is arguable the best in the league Bill.

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I would say that our attacking options are good, we just need a striker to be the focal point, and a winger to finish them off. Once our players have settled in they will be very potent.

 

Its hard to judge our team when we don't have a striker to be a focal point.

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I would say that our attacking options are good, we just need a striker to be the focal point, and a winger to finish them off. Once our players have settled in they will be very potent.

 

Its hard to judge our team when we don't have a striker to be a focal point.

Not really. We have a striker on thread decline, a high potential but unproven in the league striker playing wide and DCL. Sigurdsson will be solid but nothing more.

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Not really. We have a striker on thread decline, a high potential but unproven in the league striker playing wide and DCL. Sigurdsson will be solid but nothing more.

Lookman, Mirallas, Bolasie all have pace, trickery and can beat a man.

 

Klassan, Rooney and Siggy can thread passes at pace and create chances.

 

Sandro will be a real threat once he adjusts to the team and the league.

 

DCL has the attributes to be a very good striker, but needs experience.

 

What we lack is a true striker to replace Lukaku, and a winger to cover / challenge Lookman / Mirallas and Bolasie.

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Hadn't noticed this article from a few days ago (sorry if already posted)...

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/who-scored-blog/2017/jul/26/gylfi-sigurdsson-everton-swansea-transfer-window

 

Asks a lot of the questions many of us are asking... is he really what we need? Why are we about to pay £50m for a 27 year old (28 next month) when there's young, cheaper, 'better' around?

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Been saying it all along and it's shown recently.

We're missing Barkley more than we need Sigurdson.

 

We need someone who can create opportunities during open play. No point throwing loads of crosses into the box if our forwards don't want to challenge for headers.

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Lookman, Mirallas, Bolasie all have pace, trickery and can beat a man.

 

Klassan, Rooney and Siggy can thread passes at pace and create chances.

 

Sandro will be a real threat once he adjusts to the team and the league.

 

DCL has the attributes to be a very good striker, but needs experience.

 

What we lack is a true striker to replace Lukaku, and a winger to cover / challenge Lookman / Mirallas and Bolasie.

There first 3 are unproven, proven not good enough and injured for most of the season.

 

Siggy is the exception, Klaasen is likely to play in central midfield ano I've covered Rooney.

 

Other two unproven but with potential.

 

I'd argue that our attackers aren't as good as last season.

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I'd argue that our attackers aren't as good as last season.

 

Seems obvious since we've sold our best attacker for 75m and haven't yet replaced him...

 

I think we have lots of potential but also a good deal of risk in our attack right now.. We need proven class in the event that our riskier options don't pan out. This is why Siggy and Giroud are necessary additions imo

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There first 3 are unproven, proven not good enough and injured for most of the season.

 

Siggy is the exception, Klaasen is likely to play in central midfield ano I've covered Rooney.

 

Other two unproven but with potential.

 

I'd argue that our attackers aren't as good as last season.

Lookman has potential there is no doubt about that, he has looked good in the games he has played for us and I believe this will be his breakthrough season. Mirallas is good enough he is just inconsistent. Bolasie will be back before Christmas. Which is why we need a winger or wide attacking midfielder.

 

Klassen wherever he plays, and I think it will be in midfield, we will not need to play 2 holding midfielders against most sides, is creative and will make chances. The same apply's to Siggy, although I think he will play in the front 3.

 

Plus we have Rooney, who although not a striker will link up play well.

 

We will be a better attacking unit than we were last season when we have a striker, at the moment we have creative players but no focal point, like an orchestra without a conductor.

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I haven't seen it with Lookman yet. Not anything that says he is Prem quality but he is young and hasn't had much of a chance.

 

Mirallas isn't good enough, people should stop trying to convince themselves that he is.

 

I haven't seen anything from Klaasen to say he is creative. Imo his movement creates chances not his ability on the ball if that makes sense.

 

I think there is more potential in the group of players we have now but as it stands I would have Rom and Ross ahead of all of them.

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I haven't seen it with Lookman yet. Not anything that says he is Prem quality but he is young and hasn't had much of a chance.

 

Mirallas isn't good enough, people should stop trying to convince themselves that he is.

 

I haven't seen anything from Klaasen to say he is creative. Imo his movement creates chances not his ability on the ball if that makes sense.

 

I think there is more potential in the group of players we have now but as it stands I would have Rom and Ross ahead of all of them.

Time will tell.

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Ordeal is an understatement.

 

I was really excited when we were first linked, then this ridiculous money discussion and the protracted media bullshit has removed any anticipation or positivity from the whole thing

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Agreed, understatement.

 

That said, if this article is accurate, and Swansea gives in to the 40m offer, was the ordeal worth it? We get our guy, and can use the 10m to up our offer on a striker or to continue to bolster the youth squad.

 

The thing that gets at me is the way this has been drawn out signals that we aren't ready to spend nearly as large as was previous indicated. If we were, we'd have gotten him in and training with the squad sooner rather than later.

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if this article is accurate, and Swansea gives in to the 40m offer

 

Sorry, didn't mean that's what the article says.. I was inferring that if Swansea is feeling pressure to move him they may give in to the lower offer.

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I'm actually glad that we aren't just handing over the money.... absolutely rudiculous fee.

 

Swansea surely must be just trying to keep face now. It Will be an undisclosed fee.

 

i'm with you Haf, everyone knew Lukaku was leaving for a ransom and wants to hold us to ransom. No thanks. I like this. They are skint so we drag it out until TDD and they are fucked on transfers. Or accept the lesser fee and get your guys in pronto.

 

Either way we control it, Swansea has no other assets of value.

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Agreed, understatement.

 

That said, if this article is accurate, and Swansea gives in to the 40m offer, was the ordeal worth it? We get our guy, and can use the 10m to up our offer on a striker or to continue to bolster the youth squad.

 

The thing that gets at me is the way this has been drawn out signals that we aren't ready to spend nearly as large as was previous indicated. If we were, we'd have gotten him in and training with the squad sooner rather than later.

Respectfully, I strongly disagree with your assessment. For one, we have bid 40m+ which is considerably more than Everton have ever bid for any player. This alone should prove we are willing to splash the cash. The idea that because we have significantly more money we should just pay whatever clubs want is a bit misguided in my opinion. If we get a reputation for being a club who is weak in negotiation we would regularly be taken advantage of. It can be frustrating to not get a player because of a few million but those millions we save are going to add up and help improve the club in the long run. Almost everyone agrees that Sig is being priced too high so I don't quite get the criticism when our management agrees and tries to get a better deal.

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I'm actually glad that we aren't just handing over the money.... absolutely rudiculous fee.

 

Swansea surely must be just trying to keep face now. It Will be an undisclosed fee.

Yep.

 

Not just that though...if we give in, every club will do the same every time we come calling.

 

We cannot meet their demands.

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It is understood talks have broken down between Everton and Swansea over a deal for Gylfi Sigurdsson.

 

We understand a deal is now in jeopardy after more than five weeks of negotiations.

 

One source has suggested a verbal agreement was reached between the two clubs, only for Everton to withdraw the offer 48 hours later and refer back to a previous offer, understood to be around £40m.

 

Theres now a fear at Goodison Park that soured relations may scupper the process completely, seriously hampering Ronald Koemans and Paul Clements planned transfer dealings over the next three weeks.

 

Sky Sports News understands that the two clubs are less than £5m apart on a fee, with Sigurdssons wages not expected to be a problem.

 

-SSN

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As mentioned earlier this evening, Sky sources understand talks have broken down between Everton and Swansea over a deal for Gylfi Sigurdsson.

 

But another source has since told us the two clubs are still trying to find a resolution and any suggestion the deal is off is nonsense.

 

-SSN

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