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I still think this will happen tbh, it's dragged on too long without either side walking away for it not to- the player wants to move he's missed every friendly and their manager wants new players.

 

Be surprised if it doesn't.

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I trust Koeman and if he wants him pay the poxy 5 million extra and get him in so we can move on to getting a striker and our other targets.

Crazy isn't it when footballs got to the position where we're saying "pay the 5mil extra, it's nothing"

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he's missed every friendly

 

 

We should knock another million off the price because they've deprived him of match fitness for the start of the season. Take the piss and bid 39 million.

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Respectfully, I strongly disagree with your assessment. For one, we have bid 40m+ which is considerably more than Everton have ever bid for any player. This alone should prove we are willing to splash the cash. The idea that because we have significantly more money we should just pay whatever clubs want is a bit misguided in my opinion. If we get a reputation for being a club who is weak in negotiation we would regularly be taken advantage of. It can be frustrating to not get a player because of a few million but those millions we save are going to add up and help improve the club in the long run. Almost everyone agrees that Sig is being priced too high so I don't quite get the criticism when our management agrees and tries to get a better deal.

 

Either you misunderstood my point or I did a terrible job of making it.. I'm very much in favor of us holding the line at 40m. I like Siggy a lot, and I think he'd help solidify what is currently an unproven group of options going forward, but 40m is already a hell of a fee for him.

 

My point about the lack of spending stands though. We haven't splurged any cash whatsoever, and we have three glaring holes that we need filled. Either this saga is about far more than 5m, or we're legitimately dragging this out over 5m. I'm leaning towards the former, but if it's the latter then I don't think it makes mumch of a case for us being big spenders.

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After paying 30 million for Pickford I don't think it'll be us being the awkward ones.

 

We paid 30m for pickford (as well as the fee for klaasen) knowing full well that the Lukaku sale would cover all of it.

 

Koeman took a shot at the money for a reason - I don't think we're ready to splash the cash the way that we've postured.

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Either you misunderstood my point or I did a terrible job of making it.. I'm very much in favor of us holding the line at 40m. I like Siggy a lot, and I think he'd help solidify what is currently an unproven group of options going forward, but 40m is already a hell of a fee for him.

 

My point about the lack of spending stands though. We haven't splurged any cash whatsoever, and we have three glaring holes that we need filled. Either this saga is about far more than 5m, or we're legitimately dragging this out over 5m. I'm leaning towards the former, but if it's the latter then I don't think it makes mumch of a case for us being big spenders.

 

You're right that we've not splashed more cash than we have, but I have no problem with that? Too many teams spend beyond their means. We appear to have spent well. Plus, the real investment, and longer term investment, in the team is a new stadium. That will put us on a much stronger financial foundation, and that will really bolster spending in future years.

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Well fact is we have had bids of 49m + turned down, so we are definitely ready to spend it.

If teams refuse to sell or players don't want to come, it's not really our fault.

not sure on the amount but the point is well made

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Normally we make those bids on deadline day and Bill comes out the next day with a "we almost had him"... a bit like Sissoko!

That was under his tenure when we had absolutly no money whatsoever, under Moshiri we should (in theory) be getting our targets as we have been told the manager has money to spend. If Bill starts coming out with that nonsense again i can see some of the fans not being too happy tbh.

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I think koeman will be fuming this deal is not done. We all know our first six games are killers and we need to fill the goals lost by lukaku. Gilfi will not be fully fit until he plays a few games when he could have been up and running. I just think with the tracks we made at the start knowing the price we should have just paid it as a signal of intent.

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I think koeman will be fuming this deal is not done. We all know our first six games are killers and we need to fill the goals lost by lukaku. Gilfi will not be fully fit until he plays a few games when he could have been up and running. I just think with the tracks we made at the start knowing the price we should have just paid it as a signal of intent.

What intent would that signal though? Our intent to have our pants pulled down by every selling club?

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What intent would that signal though? Our intent to have our pants pulled down by every selling club?

Exactly.

 

It's a tough market at the moment. Prices are daft. You openly pay OTT for one player from a club, you can guarantee the next player you target will be the same.

 

I'm sure Koeman understands this.

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What intent would that signal though? Our intent to have our pants pulled down by every selling club?

 

We paid the asking price for Keane and Pickford without argument. Both are good players with great potential, but Keane was on his last 12 months and Pickford was going to the Championship, if we wanted to drag them on for weeks we probably could have but it was more important (obviously) to get them done early than faffing around.

 

While I don't want us to get dudded, at the same time we are playing 5 games in 15 days, 2 of those being against City and Chelsea away and wedging a trip to Croatia between them. The player hasn't played a minute of pre-season football. If we had wrapped this up weeks ago he could have been up to speed and gelling with the squad. The friendlies and Europa qualifiers showed our attack is probably the weakest area of the squad at the moment.

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Exactly.

 

It's a tough market at the moment. Prices are daft. You openly pay OTT for one player from a club, you can guarantee the next player you target will be the same.

 

I'm sure Koeman understands this.

I think that moment has long gone. We have paid big money for others answer made a big money offer too. We have also received a fair wedge so teams will hold out for more. You have to balance whether a couple of extra mil is Worth the potential disruption to the start of the season.

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We paid the asking price for Keane and Pickford without argument. Both are good players with great potential, but Keane was on his last 12 months and Pickford was going to the Championship, if we wanted to drag them on for weeks we probably could have but it was more important (obviously) to get them done early than faffing around.

 

While I don't want us to get dudded, at the same time we are playing 5 games in 15 days, 2 of those being against City and Chelsea away and wedging a trip to Croatia between them. The player hasn't played a minute of pre-season football. If we had wrapped this up weeks ago he could have been up to speed and gelling with the squad. The friendlies and Europa qualifiers showed our attack is probably the weakest area of the squad at the moment.

He has played a preseason game but that's by the by.

 

We may well have paid slightly over the odds for Keane and Pickford but they are both young England internationals who we could get another 10 years out of

Sigurdsson is a quality player but we would be lucky to get 4 seasons out of him and we have already offered way over the odds for him

For what it's worth I think we will still get him and I think Swansea will get close to their asking price , but it will come at a cost to them because it will be too late in the window for them to reinvest

For every Evertonian saying just pay the extra £5m I bet there is a Swansea fan saying just accept the £45m so that they can bring their own players in

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That's exactly what they are saying on their forums.

 

Yes because it's important for everyone to get players training and into the squad.

 

Everyone thinks that overpaying once means teams will force us to overpay forever. The market is the market. Strike a hard bargain in January. We have an incredibly tough stretch coming now. Get your players in, get your squad ready, and don't ruin European football in the first three weeks of the season,

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Yes because it's important for everyone to get players training and into the squad.

 

Everyone thinks that overpaying once means teams will force us to overpay forever. The market is the market. Strike a hard bargain in January. We have an incredibly tough stretch coming now. Get your players in, get your squad ready, and don't ruin European football in the first three weeks of the season,

You tend to pay even more in January.

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Yup.

 

As nice as it would be to add his class to the squad, its time to crap or get off the pot. Understand the message the board is sending but either sign him or move on to the next target.

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without him Swansea will struggle to stay in the league, so I see why they want as much as they can, but he will have little resale value so our board is right to set a maximum limit and I'm sure there are other players as good out there for the same or less money, just may not have the same premier league experience. Another striker definitely should be the priority

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I'm firmly in the camp of - if the manager wants him then go and get him. If we really are 5 million off agreeing and it's his No1 taget then fuck it- just get him.

 

Yup. Still unclear to me why everyone is in favor of haggling over 5m when the season starts now.

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Yup. Still unclear to me why everyone is in favor of haggling over 5m when the season starts now.

 

because it will snowball if we prove to be pushovers. do you just take on extra work responsibilities without being compensated? it's helping your employer right? i don't. you want more than my job description, pay up.

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because it will snowball if we prove to be pushovers. do you just take on extra work responsibilities without being compensated? it's helping your employer right? i don't. you want more than my job description, pay up.

 

I still maintain that the market is the market. A team will take what a team can get. There are better times to make a statement and strike a bargain than 2 days before the start of the season.

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Ha! No ones trying to strike a bargain. We're talking the £40 - £50 millom price bracket here. There's no bargain going to be mentioned by anyone!

 

He's going to come to us. No doubt. It's just behind the scenes muscle flexing to sort out.

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Clement has called for a compromise to be sorted now.

He's been cool and realistic throughout.

 

From his point of view, he knows Sigurdsson wants to leave. He wants him out so he can get new players in. It's an unwanted distraction for him and his players.

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He's been cool and realistic throughout.

 

From his point of view, he knows Sigurdsson wants to leave. He wants him out so he can get new players in. It's an unwanted distraction for him and his players.

 

he needs to tell his board just accept the offer now. they'll be bottom table regardless he's hoping to hit the lottery on signing replacements.

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Getting left out of the squad for the season opener.

 

No surprise really as he's had little game time.

Coutinho left out of the Liverpool squad.

 

I hope I'm not putting 2 + 2 together and getting Sigurdsson to Liverpool ?

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Only thing better than watching this drag on is the Coutinho drama.

 

According to FM, squad list for Europa qualifying rounds closes 2 days before the first leg, so we would need him in by Tuesday to get him on the list for the 2 Split games. Hopefully he's here by then.

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Only thing better than watching this drag on is the Coutinho drama.

 

According to FM, squad list for Europa qualifying rounds closes 2 days before the first leg, so we would need him in by Tuesday to get him on the list for the 2 Split games. Hopefully he's here by then.

According to football manager I can get Burnley to the semi finals of the CL

within two seasons.

 

To be fair it must be reaslstic then ;)

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Don't think we should be buying a player that isn't training.

Just because he isn't in the squads should t mean he isn't training hard to get ready.

If he isn't, then he isn't professional enough for our team.

 

Likelihood is that he is fit but not bit match fit. That shouldn't take too long to get into shape. Most of our team have only had 90 minutes total.

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Don't think we should be buying a player that isn't training.

Just because he isn't in the squads should t mean he isn't training hard to get ready.

If he isn't, then he isn't professional enough for our team.

 

Likelihood is that he is fit but not bit match fit. That shouldn't take too long to get into shape. Most of our team have only had 90 minutes total.

You've just answered your own question. Of course he'll be training and fit but fit and match fit are completely different things.

 

He wont be picked over players who are match fit for such an important game.

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But haven't we a few matches before?

I mean if we can get him in very soon, he might be able to get a few appearances under his belt.

But we need to wrap this up urgently.

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