Bill Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Swansea trying to sign Joe Allen. Gylhi replacement.?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Swansea trying to sign Joe Allen. Gylhi replacement.?? Smart move for them. Probably go for £20m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Agents need running out the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Players should pay the fucking agent fees. Makes me angry. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Go firm. Refuse the agent fees. I'm sure he'd be happy with taking a percentage of his massively inflated wages anyway as id imagine we would be paying him 120k+ per week. Play hard ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Players should pay the fucking agent fees. Makes me angry. I've always thought this too. It's the players agent, representing the player. Why the fuck do clubs pay them? Plus it's usually the agent that turns players heads to other clubs in the first place! It's amazing how much of a transfer fee is actually agent and 'etc' fees. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 Simple. Clubs save a fortune in admin. Time, money and administration. Clubs keep agents in business not the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsaint08 Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) http://www.footballinsider247.com/deal-close-everton-set-complete-50m-move-pl-playmaker-two-transfers-follow-report/ Take with a pinch of salt? But at 50M, seems like a huge gamble ,,,, Edited August 13, 2017 by xsaint08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 I've always thought this too. It's the players agent, representing the player. Why the fuck do clubs pay them? Plus it's usually the agent that turns players heads to other clubs in the first place! It's amazing how much of a transfer fee is actually agent and 'etc' fees. FIFA should ban clubs from paying agents. With transfer fees, money goes from club to club. With agents fees, its money going out of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I reckon we'll have it done by Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 48 hrs then Mark. About the seventh 48 hrs so far. aaron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbeaker Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 There's no denying he's a useful player but the price is crazy. When we sold Lukaku for £75million I thought it wasn't a bad deal on our part, but the market now seems to be crazy. Koeman wants him, so I guess we will be getting him, hopefully he will be the missing piece of the jigsaw, as the money will be for the here and now as he is soon to be 28 there will be little resale value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seve Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) Not sure about the missing piece of the jigsaw we seam to be over run with midfield players, perhaps hes going for total football? But we badly need a 25 goal a season player, im struggling to see anyone who will get double figure prem goals. I still think Benteke would fill the void. Edited August 14, 2017 by seve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbeaker Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Not sure about the missing piece of the jigsaw we seam to be over run with midfield players, perhaps hes going for total football? But we badly need a 25 goal a season player, im struggling to see anyone who will get double prem goals. I still think Benteke would fill the void. we do need a target man, and I am not sure about Gylfi especially shelling out so much money, but I have faith in the manager if he thinks he is needed that badly and worth paying ~£50million. Personally I would rather keep Barkley if he would stay and hopefully around the likes of rooney he may fulfil his potential but that doesn't seem likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Not sure about the missing piece of the jigsaw we seam to be over run with midfield players, perhaps hes going for total football? But we badly need a 25 goal a season player, im struggling to see anyone who will get double figure prem goals. I still think Benteke would fill the void. We wont be signing a 25 a season striker mate- regardless of if we have the money, no striker of that quality would come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 We need a striker, a target man. I agree with Pad that we are't at the stage where we can get a 25 goals a year striker. What we need is one that can get 15 - 20. With Rooney, Sandro, Klaassen, Mirallas, Lookman, DCL, they should each be looking to get into the 8 - 10 goals a season mark which makes up for Lukaku's goals. When we are set we will not be so one dimensional and carry multiple threats. A much better team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 We need a striker, a target man. I agree with Pad that we are't at the stage where we can get a 25 goals a year striker. What we need is one that can get 15 - 20. With Rooney, Sandro, Klaassen, Mirallas, Lookman, DCL, they should each be looking to get into the 8 - 10 goals a season mark which makes up for Lukaku's goals. When we are set we will not be so one dimensional and carry multiple threats. A much better team. To me we don't necessarily need to spend big on a striker - we just need someone who can be a target and be formidable in the air. Problem for me isn't the lack of options or scoring ability but a lack of versatility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Sigurdsson is a good player there's no disputing that, but he's not a world class player, and even in this inflated market he's not worth 50M. That figure was put on him by Swansea as a way of putting suitors of, but we seem prepared to pay it or somewhere close to it, if he was worth that you would expect to hear of other clubs chasing him, but we don't possibly because nobody thinks he's worth anywhere near that. For that sort of money we should be looking to fill the void left by Lukaku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Sigurdsson is a good player there's no disputing that, but he's not a world class player, and even in this inflated market he's not worth 50M. That figure was put on him by Swansea as a way of putting suitors of, but we seem prepared to pay it or somewhere close to it, if he was worth that you would expect to hear of other clubs chasing him, but we don't possibly because nobody thinks he's worth anywhere near that. For that sort of money we should be looking to fill the void left by Lukaku. who can replace lukaku for that money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 We need a striker, a target man. I agree with Pad that we are't at the stage where we can get a 25 goals a year striker. What we need is one that can get 15 - 20. With Rooney, Sandro, Klaassen, Mirallas, Lookman, DCL, they should each be looking to get into the 8 - 10 goals a season mark which makes up for Lukaku's goals. When we are set we will not be so one dimensional and carry multiple threats. A much better team. For this reason, I would spend on Dzeko and not Sigurdsson - and save a boatload of money in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 who can replace lukaku for that money?Not for one minute suggesting we can buy another Lukaku for 50M maybe could have put it better, I just think we are not struggling with options in midfield, and that the money would be better spent looking to fill the position left by Lukaku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 For this reason, I would spend on Dzeko and not Sigurdsson - and save a boatload of money in the process. We need both. Siggy provides creativity, and a goal threat but is not a striker, we need both. Mickeyblue62 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Not for one minute suggesting we can buy another Lukaku for 50M maybe could have put it better, I just think we are not struggling with options in midfield, and that the money would be better spent looking to fill the position left by Lukaku. I think we are struggling for creative midfield options, Barkley is as good as gone, doesn't look like Klassen is quite ready yet and the rest are more defensive minded midfielders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seve Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) I agree with most of the above, we are not going to attract a class A striker But the class B ones Benteke, Vardy, Giroud, Decko, etc surely we can tempt one of these to join I think this is where our priority's should be. But im sure Ron is well aware and doing all he can to get one in. We also have Bollasie to return with his pace. Edited August 15, 2017 by seve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Dzeko plays champions league football with Roma, not coming here. Benteke is shit, Vardy isn't going anywhere, he's Leicesters main man. Giroud? Ain't going anywhere. These target man shouts aren't what i want. Barca don't have a target man, neither do Man City, neither does Liverpool. If you have skilled forwards you don't need a target man. Sandro, Rooney, Mirallas, Klaassen, Bolasie, all have the skills to be interchanging forwards in a front 3. No need to lump the ball. Barca don't. City don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) Dzeko plays champions league football with Roma, not coming here. Benteke is shit, Vardy isn't going anywhere, he's Leicesters main man. Giroud? Ain't going anywhere. These target man shouts aren't what i want. Barca don't have a target man, neither do Man City, neither does Liverpool. If you have skilled forwards you don't need a target man. Sandro, Rooney, Mirallas, Klaassen, Bolasie, all have the skills to be interchanging forwards in a front 3. No need to lump the ball. Barca don't. City don't. Well, I don't mean to be a downer, but we're nowhere near as skilled as either City or Barca, and I don't want to model ourselves after Liverpool because I think they'll fall off quite a bit without coutinho and we frankly don't have a player like him... It's not that we always need a target man. I'm in favor of pinging the ball around when we're able to, but I'm also realistic. I think that we at least need a target man available to us in the event that we need to switch things up. We need versatility. Edited August 15, 2017 by Matt Tiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Well, I don't mean to be a downer, but we're nowhere near as skilled as either City or Barca, and I don't want to model ourselves after Liverpool because I think they'll fall off quite a bit without coutinho and we frankly don't have a player like him... It's not that we always need a target man. I'm in favor of pinging the ball around when we're able to, but I'm also realistic. I think that we at least need a target man available to us in the event that we need to switch things up. We need versatility. no thanks for me. Bournemouth isn't Barca either and they don't lump it. Koeman isn't a Pulis, i don't know why people want Pulis players like Benteke. Koeman is of the Barca Dutch style, no need for big lump strikers. Rooney Sandro Gylfi is what i expect to all interchange and feed each other. Klaassen as well in a more advanced role. Subs of mirallas bolasie lookman DCL to do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Dzeko plays champions league football with Roma, not coming here. Benteke is shit, Vardy isn't going anywhere, he's Leicesters main man. Giroud? Ain't going anywhere. These target man shouts aren't what i want. Barca don't have a target man, neither do Man City, neither does Liverpool. If you have skilled forwards you don't need a target man. Sandro, Rooney, Mirallas, Klaassen, Bolasie, all have the skills to be interchanging forwards in a front 3. No need to lump the ball. Barca don't. City don't. Those teams mentioned play a different way to what Koeman plays, all comes down to the managers tactics, Koeman loves a target man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seve Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 I don't recall anyone saying we need to lump it like pulis at WBA Just because we have a target man, we did not lump it to lukaku we played it through midfield to him. We just need someone who will score regularly and I don't see anyone there at the moment to do that. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Dzeko plays champions league football with Roma, not coming here. Benteke is shit, Vardy isn't going anywhere, he's Leicesters main man. Giroud? Ain't going anywhere. These target man shouts aren't what i want. Barca don't have a target man, neither do Man City, neither does Liverpool. If you have skilled forwards you don't need a target man. Sandro, Rooney, Mirallas, Klaassen, Bolasie, all have the skills to be interchanging forwards in a front 3. No need to lump the ball. Barca don't. City don't. It's quite revealing to see just how long it's been since we scored more than one goal in a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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