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I dont know the in's & out's of everything as im not an Everton supporter..but i would like to ask why it seems that David Moyes is disliked by alot of Evertonians?

I read alot of the comments on here about him and most of them seem very negative against him

The man gave your club its best season in goodness knows how long in 2004/05.

Ok last season may not have been what you would have expected afterwards, but i cant help but feel that the man deserves more admiration and respect off Everton fans than what he seemingly gets.

I'm only going by the impression i get from reading around here & if anyone wants to put me in my place or explain why properley then feel free :)

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I like him, but i can still criticise him aswell. Some of his tactical changes during matches are totally baffling, and it usually takes him 10mins to decide what to do anyway by which time the match is more often than not gone. He has a problem with playing youth, and buying poo left backs ;) I dont think anyone else could have done as good a job as he has with what he has been given so i wouldnt change him, i just think he could be a bit more fast thinking and open minded when it comes to youngsters, but on the whole im happy with him being our manager

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his transfer market business isn't great, lookign better though

and his tactics sometimes are shocking

he has us play bollocks footy a lot of the time, and has a tendancy to play players out of position, although since we've signed a few its been happening les

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Pat    2

Wouldnt say he is not lked.

 

Though far to say some ( if many) still have a few football related concerns.

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Love the guy! Wouldn't swap him for the world.

The thing about subbing and doing it at the right time is tricky-sometimes there's a few factors to think about before just getting on with it i.e. are there other plyrs carrying slight injuries, anyone on a yellow and starting to lose the plot, anyone getting tired etc etc.

I even thing he's done well in the transfer mkt and not just this yr. I only see Kroldrup as a mistake which he was big enuf to admit and make sure we get a fair bit of £ back.

For the money paid, I still reckon Jimmy Mac and VDM will prove good buys.

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Moyes is disliked by alot of Evertonians?

 

theres always a few moaners who can't understand that it takes time to develop a top quality premiership team. especially these days and more so if you are working on a tight budget.

 

they also dont understand that mistakes are unavoidable. every manager screws up from the top down. but some clubs can afford the ballsups more than others.

 

he's been criticised because some of his transfer decisions havent worked out. but that happens to all clubs.

 

look at ferguson. the idiot sold beckham to real madrid because fergie is a dinosaur who didnt grasp what his commercial potential was worth to the club. real madrid claimed to have recovered the transfer fee in a matter of weeks thru sponsorship deals. :lol:

 

arsene wenger has made a few ballsups and he is truly a management genius.

 

also moysey has been on a learning curve. this is his first premiership club. he's now got to grips with it a lot better and i believe he has the potential to be a top manager. B)

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Moyes is disliked by alot of Evertonians?

 

theres always a few moaners who can't understand that it takes time to develop a top quality premiership team. especially these days and more so if you are working  on a tight budget.

 

they also dont understand that mistakes are unavoidable. every manager screws up from the top down. but some clubs can afford the ballsups more than others.

 

he's been criticised because some of his transfer decisions havent worked out. but that happens to all clubs.

 

look at ferguson. the idiot sold beckham to real madrid because fergie is a dinosaur who didnt grasp what his commercial potential was worth to the club. real madrid claimed to have recovered the transfer fee in a matter of weeks thru sponsorship deals.  :lol:

 

arsene wenger has made a few ballsups and he is truly a management genius.

 

also moysey has been on a learning curve. this is his first premiership club. he's now got to grips with it a lot better and i believe he has the potential to be a top manager.  B)

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ye look how long it took benitez johl murhinio jewel(beat us twice) lets be fair to moysey,he only had 4 years!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ye look how long it took benitez johl  murhinio jewel(beat us twice) lets be fair to moysey,he only had 4 years!!!!!!!!!!!!

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so why do you have him in your name???

:lol:

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ye look how long it took benitez johl murhinio jewel

 

yeah. sure and look at the money they had. in fact jewel hasnt done anything yet. one season hardly counts for anything.

 

and mourinho! anyone could win the league with his budget! :P

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Thats not the point though, he didnt win it with the players he bought, it took Mourinho setting them up right to do it, You can buy who you like but if you dont play them right or motivate them in the right way it wont make a difference how much theyve cost or how good they are.

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Thats my point, you can buy whoever you like with the money you have but if you dont coach them right then it wont make much of a difference

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a la Real Madrid

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Ola    0
i poersonally think moyes is a great manager but he is still in-experienced. he is only young and has been thrown in at the deep end.

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:D how true, hes perking up now :D glad to say ;)

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with moyes at times it can be a love hate relationship, but we are going in the right direction and moyes has always been a good coach and now he seems to be getting better as a manager. - in moyes we trust.

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DM could do for Everton what SIR Wrigleys Gum did for manure. since moyes has been at Everton we have experienced CL for the first time. Signed England international (AJ, PN) started plans for a new training ground/academy and could soon be moving to a new ground. Anyone who questions moyes stay at Everton does not no the meaning of a proper manager. a proper manager sets out long term plans and goals and i belivev moyes is living up to his golas.

 

CMON Everton !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It's a pleasure to read some of the comments about Moyes but rest assured the fish will be quoting this thread if any of you turn during the season!

 

I got a bit of twitchy arse syndrome myself in December but i'v always believed that Moyes was playing the "long game" and hopefully the board can make sure there is money there every opportunity. One slip up or one summer without a decent level of spending and the managers work can all be undone as players see that as a lack of ambition.

 

I Just hope we can qualify for Europe this year, keep our current crop of players and add another couple of good signings and we may have finaly turned one of the corners that face us on the road ahead.

COYB B)

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Mac    0
DM could do for Everton what SIR Wrigleys Gum did for manure. since moyes has been at Everton we have experienced CL for the first  time. Signed England international (AJ, PN) started plans for a new training ground/academy and could soon be moving to a new ground. Anyone who questions moyes stay at Everton does not no the meaning of a proper manager.  a proper manager sets out long term plans and goals and i belivev moyes is living up to his golas.

 

CMON Everton !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I liked this one, it gave me a perspective (other than my own), which made me think "Moyes aint so bad".

 

Said before that I like the boy, but there are times he doesn't fill me with confidence. He seems to me, an able enough lad but did he come to Everton a year or so too early?.

 

Prove me wrong Ginge.

 

ATB

 

Mac

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his tactics sometimes are shocking

he has us play bollocks footy a lot of the time, and has a tendancy to play players out of position

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sounds lyk sven :lol:

 

Ranieri didnt  <_<

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arsenal were unstopable in that season so you cant blame him for not winning the league then

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if anyone can post the players who were at the club when Moyes arrived I'm sure it will prove how far we have come in a short period... I know it is 4 years but we have seen more good times than bad.... I thought walter smith did an reasonable job with his resources he had but I believed he could not take us to the next level. I think Moyes has done that even with limited resources to start with. He has made mistakes in the transfer market but i believe he has made bad signing's but has also been very srewd in the transfer market.. cahill, kilbane, yobo, arteta, bent, stubbs, neville. Im also happy to be hearing youth players being mentioned regulary with the club. the club has also come a long way off the field and i feel we are going in the right direction... although there is still alot of improvements to be made.. I feel if we can progress in the next 4 years like we have done in the last 4 years (on and off the pitch) the club will be in a very healthy position...

COME ON THE BLUES!!!!

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GOALKEEPERS 

 

Paul Gerrard 

Steve Simonsen

Andrew Pettinger

  

DEFENDERS 

 

Steve Watson

Alessandro Pistone 

Alan Stubbs

David Weir

David Unsworth 

Gary Naysmith 

Peter Clarke 

Tony Hibbert

Paul Gascoigne

David Ginola

 

  

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Niclas Alexandersson

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Idan Tal

Thomas Gravesen 

Scott Gemmill

Tobias Linderoth 

Lee Carsely 

Kevin McLeod 

Leon Osman

  

 FORWARDS 

 

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