Avinalaff Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 music isn't a contest it's there to be enjoyed and there is no winner or loser at the end of a concert..gettin number 1 means fuck all to a music fan..sure you pay for both to be entertained but also to win with football..winning a game means a shit load to a football fan and if it doesn't then you're following the wrong sport in my opinion Maybe I'm just a bit more laid back. My attitude was different 30 years ago. Now, I'm quite calm about it all. I love football, but hate politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=228426 Blue moon's(if you haven't heard of it; think blue kipper but a lighter shade of blue) view. One or two sensible posts, strangely more comments/distaste for Liverpool than we have, and the language is more colourful than a Beatles video on acid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) even with all that money they're still bitter they can't beat us what a bunch of spoilt, wanky, fuckwit, cuntish dick dogs So now THEY want to sell their arse to terroist/arabs like they like to sing at us since we were took over. Not like Scousers to be hipocrites is it? what an ignorant stupid fuckstain..doesn't even read what's been said and cut out of the main big post and said above him before gettin his little penny's worth in Edited August 5, 2011 by marcopaulo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 not sure how true this is, but apparently, people were having bags searched/being searched for any anti-kenwright stuff on them, and anyone who had a banner up was promptly kicked out of the stadium tonight? is this what we have become, now a dictatorship under Herr Kenwright and his cronies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 if youre not sure how true it is you cant throw round accusations of dictatorship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 if youre not sure how true it is you cant throw round accusations of dictatorship well a lot of people on fb who went to the game are saying it happened, i was'nt there so i don't know, thats all i meant, but its a disgrace if it is true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 I've read that stewards were taking banners down. Sky Sports apparently ran a story on a banner saying "Philip Green is no friend of ours" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 http://twitpic.com/61i42i/full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Saha referring to goodison being empty due to protests on twitter. Clearly the players are aware even though a boycott has not been encouraged. Thx for support. Was great to see Goodison even some may have protest & decided not 2come. Hopefully we'll show vs Spurs we can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 TV said we'd had a stand painted and that's why it wasn't full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 From facebook: I was at the game the fella with kenwright out flag had it up for about 10 15 seconds before it was taken down and he was ejected from the stadium by the looks of things The club have sunk to a new low tonight by taking banners off fans. What we are seeing now at our club is a dictatorship,Kenwright has become virtually untouchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 I've got to be honest, I've never been to a friendly a goodison where every stand was open. Last nite was one of the biggest crowds I've seen at friendly to be honest. I'm getting very annoyed by the way the club acted last nite, if bill wants to hold onto any positive reputation he has then he is not goin the right way about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Desperation setting in. The board have had the luxury of time, and plenty of tolerance. The Walls are caving in around them. No longer being able to hide behind the walls of goodison, banned agms, spin, media created perception that bill is an honest man who would give the shirt off his back for the club. The reality is that they are desperately trying censor the views of many fans. You just can not do that!!! They are making themselves look absolutely pathetic and only adds credence to the belief of many that they are incapable of running a club of our importance. It will come to the stage that such fans will attend other teams high profile matches and display such banners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 I wonder if that would happen haf. Can you imagine a banner on the kop saying kenwright out?! That would get some media attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 I wonder if that would happen haf. Can you imagine a banner on the kop saying kenwright out?! That would get some media attention. The mancs did it, genius idea. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1387688/Manchester-United-fans-cheeky-warning-Liverpool-19-times-banner-inside-Anfield.html In all honesty, quite a few reds who are decent "football" fans support what the likes of people's group and the blue union are doing. They feel that the days of laughing at our lack of direction and board support is now nothing more than a joke. The whole hicks and gillette scenario made them realise this. For as much as I can't stand Newcastle, and I really can't. I find what Ashley and co have done to that club a disgrace, football belongs to the fans, end of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pax Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Have to say, censorship of the clubs supporters is 100% wrong. If there is no foul language, no offensive comments, no racism etc on the banners then the club have absolutely no right to remove them. This will actually have the reverse effect that the club are hoping for. It gives the cretins and conspiracy theorists amongst us more reason to shout their rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Liverpool haven't won the Premiership once. As for the mancs, I beat them to it a long time ago lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted October 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Apparently The Times have had their access to players cut off for this story: Today at Goodison Park the Blue Union will be vociferously supporting our team in the 216th Merseyside derby. For us, the paradox of opposing the club’s business strategy whilst staunchly supporting their team the length and breadth of the country simply doesn’t exist; we fully support the team and our manager, but we vehemently oppose the stagnation which we see as the result of the business policies of the club’s board. In recent months, Everton has disposed of almost £30m of assets, in the form of players and the sale of their former training ground, yet not a penny of the proceeds has been offered David Moyes, the manager, who operates with the smallest squad in the Premier League, and very little has been re-invested in the club’s infrastructure; the majority of the money has gone to the bank and Goodison Park remains a veritable relic of bygone days in comparison with most modern Premier league club’s stadiums. In a recent controversial meeting with members of The Blue Union, Bill Kenwright, the Everton chairman, admitted the seriousness of the club’s financial position and that, on the recommendation of Keith Harris, the executive chairman of Seymour Pierce, they were on the verge of selling the club to somebody living in a one-bedroom flat in Singapore before the scam was discovered. What we would stress, and what is abundantly clear, is that this isn’t a mindless “sack the board, Kenwright out”, ad hoc campaign conducted by a handful of fans; we are supporters who have a real passion and an understanding of the issues . One element of the Blue Union, Keeping Everton In Our City, formed as a result of a proposal to relocate the club to nearby Kirkby, has been working with The Spirit of Shankly, their Liverpool counterparts, to deliver a prospectus to promote their concept for the establishment of a football quarter that would incorporate both of the city’s great clubs and contain educational, recreational, leisure and community facilities, sharing a sustainable transport infrastructure and paid for through public and private finance initiatives. Of course this amicable alliance will be suspended for ninety minutes this afternoon when the rich diversity of the clubs divided by Stanley Park will be celebrated in the raucous cauldron of a packed Goodison but after the 90 minutes have passed – hopefully with an Everton win – The Blue Union will be finalising our plans for our next spectacular event From what I can make out, the Times allowed someone from the Blue Union to write an article and publish it in their paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 "In recent months, Everton has disposed of almost £30m of assets, in the form of players and the sale of their former training ground..." Didn't think players counted as assets . Is that not what the BU say when they question the amout Bill is asking for? Can't have it both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 "In recent months, Everton has disposed of almost £30m of assets, in the form of players and the sale of their former training ground..." Didn't think players counted as assets . Is that not what the BU say when they question the amout Bill is asking for? Can't have it both ways. Pretty sure the bu haven't tried to value the club, more want to know what the asking price is. I think the point of this is yet more censorship by the club. Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Pretty sure the bu haven't tried to value the club, more want to know what the asking price is. Possibly not officially but speculation is rampant and BU supporters line up endlessly to point out that the players value is not counted as an asset. And presumably an organisation as informed as the BU would be aware of it. Makes a more impressive sound bite if ignored though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Possibly not officially but speculation is rampant and BU supporters line up endlessly to point out that the players value is not counted as an asset. And presumably an organisation as informed as the BU would be aware of it. Makes a more impressive sound bite if ignored though . I believe this was well covered previously, players are intangible assets The costs associated with the acquisition of players' registrations are capitalised as intangible fixed assets in the balance sheet. These are then fully amortised in equal annual instalments over the period of the player's initial contract. The balance sheet shows the cost and amortisation of player's registrations, with a note to the effect that a bosman will mean values being reduced, because a player can now walk away from a club at the end of his contract. Turnover in the accounts excludes transfer fees. Staff costs in the P+L account include signing on fees payable to players representing part of their remuneration, and are charged to P+L evenly over the football seasons covered by the player's contract. In effect players are assets - intangible ones and add very little to the valuation of the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codders78 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 There are different types of assets. They only technically become an asset once put on the transfer market and only then when the money is realised from the sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 In effect players are assets - intangible ones and add very little to the valuation of the club. Exactly, that was my point....so that when the BU say.. "In recent months, Everton has disposed of almost £30m of assets, in the form of players and the sale of their former training ground..." ...they are either misinformed or being misleading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 On saturday the blue union are going to reveal the £24m operating costs, they have Kendall there. In releasing this I expect a club statement very shortly... I wonder where the £24m has been going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Are you going to go to the meeting Haf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Nope, if I am totally honest I support the need to get the ownership of our club sorted ASAP in order to ensure the continued sale of talent isn't required to exist. However not 100% sure what my attendance would achieve, would be interested to gear but I'm sure we will find out. Will be interested to see what new discovery they have made, any guesses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Will be interested to see what new discovery they have made, any guesses? Perhaps they've discovered that players aren't counted as assets so they'll apologise for their misleading Times article . Although that's probably not it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I cant help but think of this vid, when I see anything about BU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Players are counted as assets mike, just not at transfer Market value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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