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10 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

I don't know how anyone can drink multiple drinks containing Red Bull. It's far, far too sweet to drink a lot of for me.

Cos it had vodka in it ... just dangerous. What a stupid drink. 

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1 hour ago, hafnia said:

I went on a skiing holiday... started with an 15 hour bender.... drinking lager. Then the next day went on vodka red bulls.... dunno how many I had but after that I was literally in bed having palpitations.... exhaustion, too much alcohol and too much caffeine was just awful.  Couldn't sleep but needed too and my brain was racing and heart was pounding.  Very very scary. 

Since I stopped drinking coffee caffeine does my head right in. When we were out here in May we were sat by the harbour and I thought "sod it" and had a Greek coffee because I used to love it, sent me crazy; head spinning, shakes, had zero idea how we were going to get back to our place because I was in no fit state to drive and wife can't. Must've sat there for an hour and a half before it subsided enough for us to leave.....never again.

Talking of stupid drinks we went to Laganas yesterday, party central of the island, f'king horrible place but late in season so very quiet and a good place to buy presents for the grand-kids strangely enough. One place selling (among the nitrus oxide and shisha pipes) a pint of "headfuck" for €5, didn't specify what it contained. I didn't ask.  

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12 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Since I stopped drinking coffee caffeine does my head right in. When we were out here in May we were sat by the harbour and I thought "sod it" and had a Greek coffee because I used to love it, sent me crazy; head spinning, shakes, had zero idea how we were going to get back to our place because I was in no fit state to drive and wife can't. Must've sat there for an hour and a half before it subsided enough for us to leave.....never again.

Talking of stupid drinks we went to Laganas yesterday, party central of the island, f'king horrible place but late in season so very quiet and a good place to buy presents for the grand-kids strangely enough. One place selling (among the nitrus oxide and shisha pipes) a pint of "headfuck" for €5, didn't specify what it contained. I didn't ask.  

Ah you out in zante Mike. Yeah loved it there .. got engaged. Small place called tregaki... never seem laganas. Way too old for all that now. Happy holidays! 

5 star metaxa is my fav

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14 minutes ago, hafnia said:

Ah you out in zante Mike. Yeah loved it there .. got engaged. Small place called tregaki... never seem laganas. Way too old for all that now. Happy holidays! 

5 star metaxa is my fav

We're about 5/6 miles up the coast from Tregaki, village called Xechoriati, think it's our 11th visit and already booked for next year. I am partial to a Metaxa but not had one yet this time.

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City and Liverpool both 3-0 up at half time, think it'll be very close between the two of them this season, on a different planet; the other "big" guys fighting for 3rd.

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1 hour ago, MikeO said:

City and Liverpool both 3-0 up at half time, think it'll be very close between the two of them this season, on a different planet; the other "big" guys fighting for 3rd.

Four games of this season I’m not looking forward to playing at all. 

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Another 90 minutes w were if you took away his goal you wouldn't have known Harry Kane played... Oh apart from his shit shot straight at the keeper setting Brighton off on the counter. 

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15 hours ago, pete0 said:

Another 90 minutes w were if you took away his goal you wouldn't have known Harry Kane played... Oh apart from his shit shot straight at the keeper setting Brighton off on the counter. 

He might just be a 4 season wonder Pete....

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27 minutes ago, hafnia said:

He might just be a 4 season wonder Pete....

I'd get 10 goals for that spurs team and I'm obese. If they had a proper quality striker like Lukaku they would've won the league the other year. Kane needs far too many chances he's just lucky spurs eriksen in particular create loads. 

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1 hour ago, pete0 said:

I'd get 10 goals for that spurs team and I'm obese. If they had a proper quality striker like Lukaku they would've won the league the other year. Kane needs far too many chances he's just lucky spurs eriksen in particular create loads. 

What drugs you been smoking today Pete? 

I take it you didn't see Man United vs Wolves on the highlights or extended???  Lukaku was 3/10 yesterday. Absolute dogshit.

Cost his team 2 points - simple as that.  Let a ball bounce in the 6 yard box cos he is flat footed and a guaranteed goal was cleared.  Awful performance and many United fans have seen enough.... have a little social media browse. 

Kane looks totally goosed bit I guarantee he will get 25 prem goals cos he's quality and is committed to his craft. I only think there is you and maybe a couple of other people in existence who doesn't rate Kane. 

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2 minutes ago, hafnia said:

What drugs you been smoking today Pete? 

I take it you didn't see Man United vs Wolves on the highlights or extended???  Lukaku was 3/10 yesterday. Absolute dogshit.

Cost his team 2 points - simple as that.  Let a ball bounce in the 6 yard box cos he is flat footed and a guaranteed goal was cleared.  Awful performance and many United fans have seen enough.... have a little social media browse. 

Kane looks totally goosed bit I guarantee he will get 25 prem goals cos he's quality and is committed to his craft. I only think there is you and maybe a couple of other people in existence who doesn't rate Kane. 

Pretty sure Lukaku at his worst has been better than any performance Kane has put in this season. Kane would be lucky to hit 10 at united. Completely different set up playing under Mourinho and if Kane was good enough they would have bought him.

You know a sign of a god striker is when you can make every miss, and that chance wasn't even one of them. Boly done well and cleared it had bounced between about 3 other players.

Kane misses clear chances every game. Don't think you can use the tired excuse when you've said Lukaku is a pro and has no excuse to be tired when he was at us. 

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38 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Pretty sure Lukaku at his worst has been better than any performance Kane has put in this season. Kane would be lucky to hit 10 at united. Completely different set up playing under Mourinho and if Kane was good enough they would have bought him.

You know a sign of a god striker is when you can make every miss, and that chance wasn't even one of them. Boly done well and cleared it had bounced between about 3 other players.

Kane misses clear chances every game. Don't think you can use the tired excuse when you've said Lukaku is a pro and has no excuse to be tired when he was at us. 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/man-utd-player-ratings-pogba-15186661.amp

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/731646/Man-Utd-news-Jose-Mourinho-slammed-Romelu-Lukaku-Wolves-video/amp

Pretty sure he gets 2/10 here....

Lukaku could play twice as many games as Kane and never be tired cos he does fuck all! Second season.... they've already spotted it in him.

But yeah... I think you are just gonna have to let your snap judgement of Kane from 4 years ago just go.  You wouldn't be the only one who didn't rate him back then. But you sure are trying to justify it in the face of a lot of strong opposing stats now.  The lads a good player. 

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The amount of United fans I know that can't bare him is frightening tbh 

Similar groans to when he was here, lazy poor touch can only finish if it's played right Infront of him etc 

We did well out of it all tbh 

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23 minutes ago, hafnia said:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/man-utd-player-ratings-pogba-15186661.amp

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/731646/Man-Utd-news-Jose-Mourinho-slammed-Romelu-Lukaku-Wolves-video/amp

Pretty sure he gets 2/10 here....

Lukaku could play twice as many games as Kane and never be tired cos he does fuck all! Second season.... they've already spotted it in him.

But yeah... I think you are just gonna have to let your snap judgement of Kane from 4 years ago just go.  You wouldn't be the only one who didn't rate him back then. But you sure are trying to justify it in the face of a lot of strong opposing stats now.  The lads a good player. 

Them same united fans who want Rashford to play, those same fans who made it Welbeck I'd a worldie and shouldn't have been sold. 

Snap judgement? I've watched enough spurs games and I'm yet to see him be a stand out. He's a poacher who needs countless chances, he's a slower less clinical version of Sturridge. 

I'm pretty sure must people just look at his stats because as a footballer he's miles down the pecking order. What is he actually good at? 

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27 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Them same united fans who want Rashford to play, those same fans who made it Welbeck I'd a worldie and shouldn't have been sold. 

Snap judgement? I've watched enough spurs games and I'm yet to see him be a stand out. He's a poacher who needs countless chances, he's a slower less clinical version of Sturridge. 

I'm pretty sure must people just look at his stats because as a footballer he's miles down the pecking order. What is he actually good at? 

I'm pretty sure I've answered this line of questioning a fair few times.

But ill give a brief update he's since won the world cup golden boot and premier league golden boot.... whilst in your opinion being shite.

That's a good point...  you say anyone could score goals in that spurs team? How so? I mean they don't win cups or leagues do they??? They can't be that good. 

Same as England.... we aren't that good but he scores loads of goals....

Lukaku played for the most talented side in the world cup but shit out against France...needz viagra.... struggles with semis.

 

Listen... I don't even think Kane is the best striker in the league, for me Aguero is.  Kane is a level below him and lukaku is a level or 2 lower than Kane. Simple as that imo. 

What is Kane good at?

Finishing with either foot from any range

Heading.

Movement- top quality

Decision making

He can look after the ball and hold it up. 

Pretty much covers it. 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, EFC-Paul said:

The amount of United fans I know that can't bare him is frightening tbh 

Similar groans to when he was here, lazy poor touch can only finish if it's played right Infront of him etc 

We did well out of it all tbh 

Oh yeah.... that juggernaut is gathering pace.  Most are saying they would sooner see rashford developing rather wasting game time on lukaku. He's got too comfortable and the laziness is starting to creep in. 

£75m is great business. He will be sold or benched before long. 

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8 minutes ago, hafnia said:

What is Kane good at?

Finishing with either foot from any range

MikeO already proved that Lukaku wins that race. 

Heading.

No competition. I've never heard anyone mention Kane for his headers mostly because he's poor at positioning himself and then not helped by having a 10 Bob head. 

Movement- top quality

Only if you think running aimlessly is a skill. Much like Gana he's not got a football brain. 

Decision making

Shoot on sight and not much else. 

He can look after the ball and hold it up. 

He holds it up no better than any striker in the prem.. but he doesn't look after it he just turns and shoots every time. A striker in that team should have twice as many assists. 

Pretty much covers it. 

Pretty much covers it. 

 

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15 minutes ago, pete0 said:

 

Pete.... I really can't be arsed getting into this again it's like arguing with a child. 

Neither player wears our shirt. One has and one hasn't. I'm pretty sure most on here have a better opinion of lukaku than me and I'm fine with that. It's not like he's a shit striker - as much as I'm not his fan I can't deny he has ability that warrants inclusion in many squads.

You on the other hand don't just try and deny Kane is one of the best strikers in the league... you actually argue that he's SHIT and wouldn't get in the Everton side.

 

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15 minutes ago, hafnia said:

Pete.... I really can't be arsed getting into this again it's like arguing with a child. 

Neither player wears our shirt. One has and one hasn't. I'm pretty sure most on here have a better opinion of lukaku than me and I'm fine with that. It's not like he's a shit striker - as much as I'm not his fan I can't deny he has ability that warrants inclusion in many squads.

You on the other hand don't just try and deny Kane is one of the best strikers in the league... you actually argue that he's SHIT and wouldn't get in the Everton side.

 

He couldn't get in the Leicester team when they were in the Championship nevermind ours.

Failed at Norwich. Failed at Leyton Orient. Failed at Leicester. Failed at Millwall. Failed for England. And if you look at the chances he missed he's the biggest reason Spurs never won the league. He's not clinical enough. He's simply not good enough. 

 

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50 minutes ago, pete0 said:

He couldn't get in the Leicester team when they were in the Championship nevermind ours.

Failed at Norwich. Failed at Leyton Orient. Failed at Leicester. Failed at Millwall. Failed for England. And if you look at the chances he missed he's the biggest reason Spurs never won the league. He's not clinical enough. He's simply not good enough. 

 

Get off the drugs mate. Beyond stupid and frankly I'm not going to dignify that complete and utter disaster of a post with anything more than that. 

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1 hour ago, hafnia said:

Get off the drugs mate. Beyond stupid and frankly I'm not going to dignify that complete and utter disaster of a post with anything more than that. 

When your history of striker suggestions includes the likes of Bony, Benteke, Welbeck, Rashford, and Santa Cruz, I'm happy not to stay on the drugs and form my own opinions rather than go off the commentators and man United fan forums. 

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1 hour ago, pete0 said:

When your history of striker suggestions includes the likes of Bony, Benteke, Welbeck, Rashford, and Santa Cruz, I'm happy not to stay on the drugs and form my own opinions rather than go off the commentators and man United fan forums. 

I could honestly add Brett Angel to that list and it still wouldn't get anywhere near the levels you are currently at.

Was Gana shit today?

Would Harry Kane get in our side? 

 

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48 minutes ago, hafnia said:

I could honestly add Brett Angel to that list and it still wouldn't get anywhere near the levels you are currently at.

Was Gana shit today?

Would Harry Kane get in our side? 

 

You argued we should have spunked £50m on Rashford. Yet say we mugged united in the Lukaku deal. 

My levels. Gana Gueye is literally the worst player I've ever seen in a blue shirt. 

He never had much to do, yet we got beat two nil and he nearly gave a pen away... And that's him at his best! Davies done a better job of carrying him than Schneiderlin. 

Without Eriksen I'd not have Kane in a championship side like the Leicester never. 

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10 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Gana Gueye is literally the worst player I've ever seen in a blue shirt. 

That's just plain insane, get that you don't rate the guy Pete but you're just making yourself look daft with statements like that.

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9 minutes ago, MikeO said:

That's just plain insane, get that you don't rate the guy Pete but you're just making yourself look daft with statements like that.

Watching him week in week out is a pain. Genuinely gutted to see him on the team sheet, other than being a good runnee I don't see what he has talent wise to be a footballer. 

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14 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Watching him week in week out is a pain. Genuinely gutted to see him on the team sheet, other than being a good runnee I don't see what he has talent wise to be a footballer. 

But as it stands he's winning MOTM today, somebody is missing something or lots of others are. Even Bailey who is almost as dubious as you and Palfy had him a close second to Davies.

Worse than the likes of Nyarko/Gosling/Krøldrup/Linderoth/Angell/Bakayoko? Seriously? Blinkered.

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1 minute ago, MikeO said:

But as it stands he's winning MOTM today, somebody is missing something or lots of others are. Even Bailey who is almost as dubious as you and Palfy had him a close second to Davies.

Worse than the likes of Nyarko/Gosling/Krøldrup/Linderoth/Angell/Bakayoko? Seriously? Blinkered.

What did he do that was good? 

His positioning is terrible. DCL was making good runs today that went unnoticed by most fans, Gana is the opposite constantly does the wrong thing but it also goes unnoticed. For me his positioning is unforgivable. No other team in the league get done through the middle as easily as us and it all falls down to one man. 

Linderoth was better than people give him credit for. Nyarko was talented. In Kroldrup's last match for us he looked decent, he just needed time. Gosling is doing okay for himself even after a terrible injury. Can't remember the other two properly. But the rest all had decent enough careers. Gana played a massive role in Villa going down, and currently he's a major problem for us. Defensively for every table or interceptions there's a cock up, foul or just completely in the wrong position to counter. Then on the ball he's detrimental to our forward play, slowing it to the point all the runners are marked and who ever he passes too only has the option of passing it back. Most annoying thing is this happens every week and hasn't been addressed properly if at all. 

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4 minutes ago, pete0 said:

What did he do that was good? 

His positioning is terrible. DCL was making good runs today that went unnoticed by most fans, Gana is the opposite constantly does the wrong thing but it also goes unnoticed. For me his positioning is unforgivable. No other team in the league get done through the middle as easily as us and it all falls down to one man. 

Linderoth was better than people give him credit for. Nyarko was talented. In Kroldrup's last match for us he looked decent, he just needed time. Gosling is doing okay for himself even after a terrible injury. Can't remember the other two properly. But the rest all had decent enough careers. Gana played a massive role in Villa going down, and currently he's a major problem for us. Defensively for every table or interceptions there's a cock up, foul or just completely in the wrong position to counter. Then on the ball he's detrimental to our forward play, slowing it to the point all the runners are marked and who ever he passes too only has the option of passing it back. Most annoying thing is this happens every week and hasn't been addressed properly if at all. 

Why do you think four managers have kept picking him? Why does he win MOTM fairly regularly?

I give up. In the words of Dragons' Den, I'm out.

 

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59 minutes ago, MikeO said:

That's just plain insane, get that you don't rate the guy Pete but you're just making yourself look daft with statements like that.

That is why I asked the question about Gana and Kane.... I could have thrown in Steven Gerrard... he thinks he was shit too.  

It's beyond Pete to say "kane is a good finisher and gets himself amongst the goals and has worked hard to get where he is but I just don't rate him as high as others"  or "gana has attributes that are good for certain games but he's not my cup of tea" ... it has to be a ridiculous extreme that just doesn't even stand up. 

It's a pity really cos it makes all his posts almost invalid and not all of them are.... 

 

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4 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

This place is one of the weirdest places going at times. I often wonder if I’ve entered the Twilight Zone :lol: 

Gana the worst player to ever wear the blue shirt??? Absolute joke.

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8 hours ago, EFC-Paul said:

The amount of United fans I know that can't bare him is frightening tbh 

Similar groans to when he was here, lazy poor touch can only finish if it's played right Infront of him etc 

We did well out of it all tbh 

I have heard the same from United fans although I am not sure we have done that well when you consider the problems we have had putting the ball in the back of the net since he left. 

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1 hour ago, MikeO said:

Why do you think four managers have kept picking him? Why does he win MOTM fairly regularly?

I give up. In the words of Dragons' Den, I'm out.

 

Probably the same people who voted for Pienaar whenever there was no obvious stand out. Just pick the guy who runs a lot. 

Little choice,and tbf two never had a summer transfer window and Silva has brought a replacement in as soon as we did, Alladyce tried to get someone in in January and Unsworth in his limited time brought in Beni in to the squad. 

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49 minutes ago, hafnia said:

That is why I asked the question about Gana and Kane.... I could have thrown in Steven Gerrard... he thinks he was shit too.  

It's beyond Pete to say "kane is a good finisher and gets himself amongst the goals and has worked hard to get where he is but I just don't rate him as high as others"  or "gana has attributes that are good for certain games but he's not my cup of tea" ... it has to be a ridiculous extreme that just doesn't even stand up. 

It's a pity really cos it makes all his posts almost invalid and not all of them are.... 

 

Not shit, just an above average player. He was a jack of all trades master on none. Whereas in the prem everyone has players for specific positions. It's laughable he gets mentioned as one of the best when just looking at his teammates, Lucas was a better DM, Alonso CM, Firminio AM. 

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13 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Probably the same people who voted for Pienaar whenever there was no obvious stand out. Just pick the guy who runs a lot. 

Little choice,and tbf two never had a summer transfer window and Silva has brought a replacement in as soon as we did, Alladyce tried to get someone in in January and Unsworth in his limited time brought in Beni in to the squad. 

Pienaar??? First time round he was brilliant for us. What the fuck do you tell yourself when you are watching some of these players?  Pienaar was a few years ahead of the prem the way he played the wide AM role. 

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18 minutes ago, hafnia said:

Pienaar??? First time round he was brilliant for us. What the fuck do you tell yourself when you are watching some of these players?  Pienaar was a few years ahead of the prem the way he played the wide AM role. 

Constantly played his teammates into danger and that fecking back heel. The one twos with Baines look good in motd but over 90 minutes he was very frustrating. His shooting was consistently bad like no other, high and wide of the far post probably hit the same guy in row z of the Gladys every week. 

He had ability no doubt but his application was disappointing. Probs be a class 5 a side player. 

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33 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Not shit, just an above average player. He was a jack of all trades master on none. Whereas in the prem everyone has players for specific positions. It's laughable he gets mentioned as one of the best when just looking at his teammates, Lucas was a better DM, Alonso CM, Firminio AM. 

Steven Gerrard just "above average"?

And part of your argument is that lucas was a better DM, firminho a better AM... blah blah blah. That's a shite argument.  

Bryan Robson was a better DM than Gazza, Hoddle a better AM than Gazza....  ask me who I would say is the better midfielder and go straight into my side.? Yes - Gazza by a country mile. Matchwinner. 

You try and make a case using ridiculous criteria that aren't even relevant.

Gerrard single handedly won cups for Liverpool (UEFA, fa cup, league cup, champions league) won derbies....  the lad was a brilliant player. Not for any one particular reason but for many - all wrapped up in one player. 

Above average... have a word. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, pete0 said:

Constantly played his teammates into danger and that fecking back heel. The one twos with Baines look good in motd but over 90 minutes he was very frustrating. His shooting was consistently bad like no other, high and wide of the far post probably hit the same guy in row z of the Gladys every week. 

He had ability no doubt but his application was disappointing. Probs be a class 5 a side player. 

Let me guess.... kilbane was a better player?  Or no.... maybe Simon Davies????

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1 minute ago, hafnia said:

Steven Gerrard just "above average"?

And part of your argument is that lucas was a better DM, firminho a better AM... blah blah blah. That's a shite argument.  

Bryan Robson was a better DM than Gazza, Hoddle a better AM than Gazza....  ask me who I would say is the better midfielder and go straight into my side.? Yes - Gazza by a country mile. Matchwinner. 

You try and make a case using ridiculous criteria that aren't even relevant.

Gerrard single handedly won cups for Liverpool (UEFA, fa cup, league cup, champions league) won derbies....  the lad was a brilliant player. Not for any one particular reason but for many - all wrapped up in one player. 

Above average... have a word. 

 

 

He single handedly lost them the league. 

Blah blah I'm completely wrong and can't argue back I know I'll call it shite. 

What's his best position? Because I don't know which one it's meant to be but I've just named three players all better than him in a specific position or you saying he is better than one of them in that position?

Rediculous criteria? I've alnamed the three central midfield positions and three players I think are better. Hardly rocket science or some warped bias to be right. Just simply where does he play and is he the best in the position? 

Match winner? He banged in a few long ranges but they'd have won more had he passed and I don't mean those shitty Hollywood long balls. 

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10 minutes ago, hafnia said:

Let me guess.... kilbane was a better player?  Or no.... maybe Simon Davies????

Kilbane was more productive, pienaar had more ability but I pick kilbane on application. Davies played RB and was scapegoated here, better player than our fans give him credit for. 

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10 minutes ago, pete0 said:

He single handedly lost them the league. 

Blah blah I'm completely wrong and can't argue back I know I'll call it shite. 

What's his best position? Because I don't know which one it's meant to be but I've just named three players all better than him in a specific position or you saying he is better than one of them in that position?

Rediculous criteria? I've alnamed the three central midfield positions and three players I think are better. Hardly rocket science or some warped bias to be right. Just simply where does he play and is he the best in the position? 

Match winner? He banged in a few long ranges but they'd have won more had he passed and I don't mean those shitty Hollywood long balls. 

Arteta is a player who would get into most Evertonians best sides of the last 20 years....  But but but he's shite cos carsley was a better DM, Cahill a better AM, Barry a better CM....

Fooking nonsense.  He was a top player cos he could do a lot of everything and was we worth one of 2 spots in midfield for that reason. 

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1 hour ago, hafnia said:

Arteta is a player who would get into most Evertonians best sides of the last 20 years....  But but but he's shite cos carsley was a better DM, Cahill a better AM, Barry a better CM....

Fooking nonsense.  He was a top player cos he could do a lot of everything and was we worth one of 2 spots in midfield for that reason. 

Could you imagine a peak Arteta in this side? Orgasmic. 

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7 hours ago, hafnia said:

Arteta is a player who would get into most Evertonians best sides of the last 20 years....  But but but he's shite cos carsley was a better DM, Cahill a better AM, Barry a better CM....

Fooking nonsense.  He was a top player cos he could do a lot of everything and was we worth one of 2 spots in midfield for that reason. 

Easy. Arteta is a better cm than Barry. Barry was a DM and a better one than Carsley. 

Your reasoning if you can call it that is fooking nonsense. Why is it so hard for you to admit Gerrard wasn't as good as any of the others? 

 

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12 hours ago, hafnia said:

Gana the worst player to ever wear the blue shirt??? Absolute joke.

John Spencer

Tony Thomas

Mark Hottiger

LI Wei Feng

Mark Pembridge

Bakayoko 

 

 

 

 

Albert Juliussen, late 1940's, beats them all by a mile.  I always thought he was a foreign player but it turns out he was born in Northumberland or somewhere up that way!

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7 hours ago, pete0 said:

Easy. Arteta is a better cm than Barry. Barry was a DM and a better one than Carsley. 

Your reasoning if you can call it that is fooking nonsense. Why is it so hard for you to admit Gerrard wasn't as good as any of the others? 

 

Pete this is the mindnumbing and absolutely ridiculous state we are in with your posts now...

You are "all in" on your idiosyncratic connosuier view of footballers.  You would sooner say that Gerrard and Kane are poor footballers in the face of stats and opinions that say otherwise.

Yes Kane is not a natural goalscorer in the vein of Ronaldo from Brazil or Gerrard may not be a "regista" like Pirlo... so fuckin what.  It's as clear as day that you are trying so bloody hard to have the alternative "I know my shit so much that I'm prepared to say black is white" and explain why. 

Not one Evertonian enjoyed seeing Gerrard line up for Liverpool against us.... if you say your heart didn't skip a beat when the ball fell to him 18 yards out you are full of shit.  Likewise.... it falls to Kane and you half expect the net to burst.

All very well laughing and saying Gerrard cost Liverpool the league.... he won them more trophies on his own than we have won in the last 30.  Sad but true. 

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1 hour ago, hafnia said:

Pete this is the mindnumbing and absolutely ridiculous state we are in with your posts now...

You are "all in" on your idiosyncratic connosuier view of footballers.  You would sooner say that Gerrard and Kane are poor footballers in the face of stats and opinions that say otherwise.

Yes Kane is not a natural goalscorer in the vein of Ronaldo from Brazil or Gerrard may not be a "regista" like Pirlo... so fuckin what.  It's as clear as day that you are trying so bloody hard to have the alternative "I know my shit so much that I'm prepared to say black is white" and explain why. 

Not one Evertonian enjoyed seeing Gerrard line up for Liverpool against us.... if you say your heart didn't skip a beat when the ball fell to him 18 yards out you are full of shit.  Likewise.... it falls to Kane and you half expect the net to burst.

All very well laughing and saying Gerrard cost Liverpool the league.... he won them more trophies on his own than we have won in the last 30.  Sad but true. 

You standing to be a local mp? Yet to get a straight answer, not even been able to say what positions he's best at? Sorry but he's better because I say so and it's laughable otherwise doesn't quite cut the mustard once you're off the play yard. 

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35 minutes ago, pete0 said:

You standing to be a local mp? Yet to get a straight answer, not even been able to say what positions he's best at? Sorry but he's better because I say so and it's laughable otherwise doesn't quite cut the mustard once you're off the play yard. 

Gerrard best position?  CENTRE MID.  The type we are absolutely crying out for..... can do the lot, tackle, dictate play, run with the ball, shoot, tackle....

Unless you think that he couldnt do those things...

Best player in the world at one stage according to Zidane. 

Best player he had played with by far according to torres.

One of the best players he's seen in his life - thierry Henry

Best player in the world- pele

Best player played with in an England shirt - Wayne Rooney.

 

 

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1 hour ago, hafnia said:

Gerrard best position?  CENTRE MID.  The type we are absolutely crying out for..... can do the lot, tackle, dictate play, run with the ball, shoot, tackle....

Unless you think that he couldnt do those things...

Best player in the world at one stage according to Zidane. 

Best player he had played with by far according to torres.

One of the best players he's seen in his life - thierry Henry

Best player in the world- pele

Best player played with in an England shirt - Wayne Rooney.

 

 

So you're basing 'your opinion' on what others have said. Prefer to watch players myself and make my own judgement, why I can say Alonso is a better CM on his passing and reading of the game. If tidbits, fist pumps and bad tackles are what impress you, each to their own I guess. 

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8 minutes ago, pete0 said:

So you're basing 'your opinion' on what others have said. Prefer to watch players myself and make my own judgement, why I can say Alonso is a better CM on his passing and reading of the game. If tidbits, fist pumps and bad tackles are what impress you, each to their own I guess. 

Giving quite an insight into your psyche there Pete.... I don't seek reassurance in my views on players.  Refer to 1000 posts on lukaku for that. It doesn't mean I have to be ridiculous to prove I'm an individual. 

I base my opinion on Gerrard according to what I witnessed in the years of watching him.

Alonso was a very good player indeed- an excellent player.  In  ways better than Gerrard and in many ways not as good as Gerrard.  Gerrard was an all round midfielder - Alonso as specialist role midfielder.

Ask any Everton fan to pick which player out of Gerrard or Alonso they would have had for the past 15 years..... who do you think they will pick?  

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1 hour ago, hafnia said:

Giving quite an insight into your psyche there Pete.... I don't seek reassurance in my views on players.  Refer to 1000 posts on lukaku for that. It doesn't mean I have to be ridiculous to prove I'm an individual. 

I base my opinion on Gerrard according to what I witnessed in the years of watching him.

Alonso was a very good player indeed- an excellent player.  In  ways better than Gerrard and in many ways not as good as Gerrard.  Gerrard was an all round midfielder - Alonso as specialist role midfielder.

Ask any Everton fan to pick which player out of Gerrard or Alonso they would have had for the past 15 years..... who do you think they will pick?  

Well I'm an Everton fan and I'd pick Alonso. As would most people around the world. 

Exactly he's an all rounder in a league of specialist. So he's not as good as the specialist. 

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10 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Well I'm an Everton fan and I'd pick Alonso. As would most people around the world. 

Exactly he's an all rounder in a league of specialist. So he's not as good as the specialist. 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.empireofthekop.com/2017/03/24/xabi-alonso-make-no-mistake-steven-gerrard-was-better-than-me/amp/

Most people around the world... But not the player himself eh... looks like a world class player seems to think an above average player was better than him.  

 

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1 hour ago, hafnia said:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.empireofthekop.com/2017/03/24/xabi-alonso-make-no-mistake-steven-gerrard-was-better-than-me/amp/

Most people around the world... But not the player himself eh... looks like a world class player seems to think an above average player was better than him.  

 

Fuckin'ell a loaded question from the Anfield Extra. Well shoot me he never said a player at another club. What a surprise. You got anymore straws to clutch? 

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40 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Fuckin'ell a loaded question from the Anfield Extra. Well shoot me he never said a player at another club. What a surprise. You got anymore straws to clutch? 

Clutching straws???  Ffs only you could put me in a position where I have to present you with proof that world class footballers consider kopite Gerrard a top class footballer and why???

To try and make you realise how fookin ridiculous you are with your views.  You make statements without thinking about them like:-

"Gana is the worst player to pull on an Everton shirt".... now in face of some seriously shit footballers thrown at you to make you realise how stupid that comment was you instead make cases for them actually being good?? In the process of that you actually managed to state that Kevin Kilbane was more productive than Pienaar.... another absolute whopper.

Kane by all accounts should not be playing premier league football and should be in the championship or league 1. 

Honestly man... 

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11 minutes ago, hafnia said:

Clutching straws???  Ffs only you could put me in a position where I have to present you with proof that world class footballers consider kopite Gerrard a top class footballer and why???

To try and make you realise how fookin ridiculous you are with your views.  You make statements without thinking about them like:-

"Gana is the worst player to pull on an Everton shirt".... now in face of some seriously shit footballers thrown at you to make you realise how stupid that comment was you instead make cases for them actually being good?? In the process of that you actually managed to state that Kevin Kilbane was more productive than Pienaar.... another absolute whopper.

Kane by all accounts should not be playing premier league football and should be in the championship or league 1. 

Honestly man... 

When your sources now stretch to a fan rag to prove your point its clutching at best. 

All you do is straw man. What has my thoughts on kilbane (who helped get us to fourth) got to do with you being wrong and taking an eternity to even decide what position Gerrard plays. Seriously your argument is boring at best. No substance just deflection after deflection rather than hold your hand up. Being wrong helps you grow as a person but only when you can admit it. Carry on in your bubble where you're always right. 

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1 hour ago, pete0 said:

When your sources now stretch to a fan rag to prove your point its clutching at best. 

All you do is straw man. What has my thoughts on kilbane (who helped get us to fourth) got to do with you being wrong and taking an eternity to even decide what position Gerrard plays. Seriously your argument is boring at best. No substance just deflection after deflection rather than hold your hand up. Being wrong helps you grow as a person but only when you can admit it. Carry on in your bubble where you're always right. 

You still don't know what a straw man is.... But  you've got more chance of knowing a straw man argument than you would a footballer that's for sure.

Kilbane helped us get to 4th eh.... like Harry Kane helped England get to a world cup semi.... like steven gerrard won Liverpool a champions league and fa cup ..... 

Last question.... let me know what you thought of Ganas performance yesterday?  Was it the performance of a player who is the worst to have ever worn a blue shirt?  Any good parts of it?

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5 minutes ago, hafnia said:

You still don't know what a straw man is.... But  you've got more chance of knowing a straw man argument than you would a footballer that's for sure.

Kilbane helped us get to 4th eh.... like Harry Kane helped England get to a world cup semi.... like steven gerrard won Liverpool a champions league and fa cup ..... 

Last question.... let me know what you thought of Ganas performance yesterday?  Was it the performance of a player who is the worst to have ever worn a blue shirt?  Any good parts of it?

He prevented them from winning the league. 

All the other blurt is strawmanning including last question them followed by two more. Go read all your shit you've posted. Barely on topic at all constantly beating around the bush like a career politician trying to deflect and derail off topic and off you being wrong. It's embarrassing and I'm not gonna bother 'engaging' as that's something you seem incapable of doing. 

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21 minutes ago, pete0 said:

He prevented them from winning the league. 

All the other blurt is strawmanning including last question them followed by two more. Go read all your shit you've posted. Barely on topic at all constantly beating around the bush like a career politician trying to deflect and derail off topic and off you being wrong. It's embarrassing and I'm not gonna bother 'engaging' as that's something you seem incapable of doing. 

I'll be honest Pete.... not sure what I've said wrong. I'll break it down for you.

1. You said gana is the worst player to ever wear an Everton shirt and I'm still waiting to hear if his performance yesterday was that of a worst Everton player ever.

3. Harry Kane isn'tt good enough for the prem and you would score 10 goals for spurs... he should be playing league one was it? 

4. Gerrard was average and "lost" Liverpool the league.

5. Kevin Kilbane was better than Pienaar....

Some beauties there. And please please please try and understand what a straw man is. 

 

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13 minutes ago, hafnia said:

Currently watching United vs derby.  Mourinho will be gone soon and so will lukaku if he carries on playing like he is. 

Maybe we could buy him to solve our striking woes.

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