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I take small comfort in the way that the title "race" has gone the way it has. I don't think I could handle them sneaking it at the end by a point or two, at least this way we've known for months that they were going to do it. 

I said when they hired Klopp that he would be the one to do it, took Dortmund from mid-table to the Champions League final, knocking Bayern off their perch domestically in doing so. Little surprise that he has achieved what he has - I just hope that City come back stronger, Chelsea's additions help them challenge and United sort themselves out. Hopefully 2021 sees a new champion. 

Above all, I've always said that I'm an Everton supporter, so the fact that we have Carlo and what seems to be a good plan for the future gives me hope. Gutted to see them do it, but let's focus on the positives around our own club. 

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All we can do is be magnanimous and say well done, through gritted teeth of course, and hope that all the players and coaches feel the same disappointment as the fans, at the gulf between the teams and try harder next season to close the gap, and we will support their efforts for doing so. 

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How nice of our lovely neighbours to set fire to the Liver Building by shooting fireworks at it. Not to mention I’m hearing there’s been a stabbing too...
 

Fully expecting the media to blame us for having it lit up blue or that it was an accident. Or maybe it was Chelsea fans again...

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8 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

How nice o&for our lovely neighbours to set fire to the Liver Building by shooting fireworks at it. Not to mention I’m hearing there’s been a stabbing too...
 

Fully expecting the media to blame us for having it lit up blue or that it was an accident. Or maybe it was Chelsea fans again...

 

5 hours ago, pete0 said:

They're absolute dickheads, 1000s of them went to anfield to celebrate. 

Shaming the City and dragging everyone down. Feel sorry for Joe Anderson, he graciously congratulated them on winning and it being good for the city and then this shit happens. Wouldn’t be surprised if we see a spike in Covid locally after the last two nights.

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25 minutes ago, Bailey said:

Is it just me or are these Leeds players individually quite average. Lots of credit should go to Bielsa for making them look half decent!

The players are borderline bad.  It’s that collective huff and puff he has them playing way better than their level.  You’d think the owners would spend some money and get him a proper striker

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33 minutes ago, Bailey said:

Is it just me or are these Leeds players individually quite average. Lots of credit should go to Bielsa for making them look half decent!

No it’s not. They remind me of Wimbledon aggression work hard and the long ball, having said that they just scored keep the ball on the ground, but even Wimbledon done that occasionally😉

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Norwich giving Utd some big problems, but for poor finishing and last ditch blocks they should be 1 or 2 up by now. 
If anyone’s watching this should make you feel better about our performance against them. 

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6 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Great goal from Cantwell. 

Surprised United brought Matic on straight after that goal. Think Cantwell and Buendia will have the better of him.

Both of Norwich's full backs have been decent this game might be worth sending Brands to have a look. 

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3 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Surprised United brought Matic on straight after that goal. Think Cantwell and Buendia will have the better of him.

Both of Norwich's full backs have been decent this game might be worth sending Brands to have a look. 

There left back is quality he’s a massive threat going forward something we lack from Digne, I like Cantwell he’s doing what £45millon Gylfi was meant to be able to do but can’t. 
I can see Norwich being raided the end of this season. 

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37 minutes ago, Palfy said:

There left back is quality he’s a massive threat going forward something we lack from Digne, I like Cantwell he’s doing what £45millon Gylfi was meant to be able to do but can’t. 
I can see Norwich being raided the end of this season. 

Digne has been dissapointing this year. Hopefully we'll see the best of him next year but wouldn't mind some propper competition now it looks as if Baines is going. 

Shame they've got no chance of staying up as all them players could probably do with an extra year to develop before moving on.  

 

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3 hours ago, Palfy said:

Norwich giving Utd some big problems, but for poor finishing and last ditch blocks they should be 1 or 2 up by now. 
If anyone’s watching this should make you feel better about our performance against them. 

No it doesn't. Norwich had their best side out today (minus Hernandez) and they turned up like they did at the end of our game.

2 hours ago, pete0 said:

Surprised United brought Matic on straight after that goal. Think Cantwell and Buendia will have the better of him.

Both of Norwich's full backs have been decent this game might be worth sending Brands to have a look. 

I'd have a good long look at Aarons, Cantwell, Buendia and Hernandez. 

Cantwell is the obvious one and he improved loads when he played centrally. When he was wide he was only any good when he could play quick 1 2's. He would suit the Barkley role under Martinez but I'm not sure where he would fit in the current system because he would be stuck out wide and doesn't have the athleticism to get up and down the pitch. I don't doubt he would do alright but you wouldn't see the best of him.

2 hours ago, Palfy said:

There left back is quality he’s a massive threat going forward something we lack from Digne, I like Cantwell he’s doing what £45millon Gylfi was meant to be able to do but can’t. 
I can see Norwich being raided the end of this season. 

I much prefer Aarons. I think he is a better defender. I'm not completely convinced about him going forward and I would have to see more but he beat Shaw down the line and got a decent cross in when the defender was favourite. 

I found Lewis wasteful when he got forward and he made poor decisions. He didn't have the same commitment to getting back like Aarons. The number of times Aarons got forward and then you see him haring back with the attackers run took my eye.

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29 minutes ago, Bailey said:
3 hours ago, pete0 said:

 

I'd have a good long look at Aarons, Cantwell, Buendia and Hernandez. 

Buendia looked good on the eye, but when he got round the box his final pass wasn’t good and his shooting was poor. 
Hernandez looked physically strong and full of running but lacked the ability to make anything of it. 
 

Lewis, Cantwell and Aarons standout players for Norwich, and I agree with pundits Lewis was excellent. 

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16 hours ago, MikeO said:

Arsenal, Chelsea and the two Manchester sides in the semis of the FA Cup.

Can anyone else come up with a more boring scenario?

To be fair, at least this way that extra European slot is likely to be available. Slim chance of us getting it but there is at least more hope than an outsider winning it.

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I watched Kyle Walker-Peters for the first time at the weekend. Other than Ings for obvious reasons, I thought he was the standout player on the pitch. Defended really well, very composed and when he was on the ball he played smartly showing quick feet.

I don't know if he just had the game of his career but considering he isn't the biggest and Watford are one of the heftiest teams in the league he came through the game really well.

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I know football is tribal but Klopp’s interview after the game shows he really is a ‘people’s person’!I know football is tribal but how anyone can defend his utter rudeness and arrogance is beyond me. Throw in the fact they’d just won the league shows his and Liverpool’s complete lack of class. 

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5 minutes ago, barryj said:

I know football is tribal but Klopp’s interview after the game shows he really is a ‘people’s person’!I know football is tribal but how anyone can defend his utter rudeness and arrogance is beyond me. Throw in the fact they’d just won the league shows his and Liverpool’s complete lack of class. 

I didn’t see it what did he do/say?

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Incredible stat on the BBC, not checked it but they wouldn't put it up if not accurate.

"If Premier League matches this season ended at half time, Wolves would be bottom of the table."

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I'm very surprised Arsenal beat Wolves. They are getting better under Arteta even when you consider their team is actually very poor. 

Utd getting better and better as well. I gave OGS a fair amount of shit early on when the media were loving him after that early run but he is sorting that side out piece by piece. They have given all the big sides a run for their money this season and with Fernández and that front 3 they are much more equipped to see off the sides that sit deep and try to frustrate them. 

I feel like next season is going to be very competitive!

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Just watching the second half of the city game. Some top class football from City but Soton hanging on and could have even doubles the lead had Adams not shit the bed and pulled out of a 50/50. 

The Americans are in for a treat next session with David Silva going over whilst he's still got it. Could even inspire the young footballers and coaches over there to be more intelligent with there play rather than athletic. 

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6 hours ago, pete0 said:

Just watching the second half of the city game. Some top class football from City but Soton hanging on and could have even doubles the lead had Adams not shit the bed and pulled out of a 50/50. 

The Americans are in for a treat next session with David Silva going over whilst he's still got it. Could even inspire the young footballers and coaches over there to be more intelligent with there play rather than athletic. 

has he announced the move yet?  i thought he wanted to go to Las Palmas and play for his childhood club

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2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

has he announced the move yet?  i thought he wanted to go to Las Palmas and play for his childhood club

My mistake. Thought I'd seen he was going to Inter Miami. 

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2 hours ago, chicagoblue said:

Fair play to Sheffield United.  Kept hammering wolves and snuck a 93rd minute winner.  Probably my vote for team of the season. 

I thought the break had caught them out a bit but they are as awkward as ever again now.

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This Sheffield Utd lot are a curious bunch. I don't think any of their players are actually genuine Premier League quality as individuals but as a unit they are formidable. 

Their success if built on being extremely hard to break down and that requires a lot of hard work and bottle. I thought it might be interesting to compare them to us, not least because there have been glimpses of a 532 from Carlo in recent games.

The biggest similarly is up front. They have two hard working centre forwards who can link really well with each other, they can both stretch the game or be physical if required. They also do a lot of defensive work but interestingly they tend not to defend too wide. They stop anything going through the middle.

Behind that they have a 3 man midfield. Typically two smaller nimbler types and the other is more of a bruiser. The key man is the guy in the centre. The two wider in the 3 cover both the centre and the wide channels. They stop any easy ball coming through the middle from the full backs or a deeper wide man. The guy in the middle orchestrates it all and has to not only be able to read the game well and organise the others, but he needs to be able to get himself around the pitch to shut down spaces created by the other two covering the wider channels. In attack the central man sits and the other two play like genuine box to box midfielders. They are encouraged to break forward where possible and support the front two. They both also therefore need to be athletic enough to get break forward from their defensive shape. We don't have anyone who fits either profile.

The back 5 from a defensive point of view is fairly straight forward. 3 big centre backs that can play a bit. The centre of the three is the organiser who sits, just like the midfielder. The full backs press quite high but also sit into their shape when it isn't on. They don't really seem to fly forward. They seem to tuck in a bit more and this is where it gets interesting because those wider centre backs are then encouraged to overlap the full back. When you think about it, if you have the players it makes a bit of sense. If the centre back gets caught upfield you still have 4 at the back plus a sitting midfielder. If it works out, you have created an easy overlap or 2 v 1 situation. Mina / Keane could play as the central man, but only Holgate would fit the wider centre back role, albeit I think it is one he could thrive in.

This means they can both sit in and defend with almost all 11 players behind the ball but also play out or counter attack really well as they have players getting forward and overlapping situations. Its simple football really. If you give them an inch they will take it.

Their success is all about getting the right players in. Wilder's task in the future, and it will be a tough task, is trying to bring in players that can replicate what these current crop are doing. 

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Those three at the back for Arsenal are woefully bad. Mustafi sliding in as Kane leisurely strolled past him was perhaps the most embarassing bit of defending I've seen in some time (didn't result in a goal).

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45 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Nice one Nostradamus!😂

I have done that a few times today! 

I didnt watch the second half (bloody typical) and couldn't believe the final result. Incredible!

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