If Moyes goes?

[Peter H 1,272]

Dunno if you know much about him but im going to mention a guy called Stuart Baxter. I admire his tactics and the way he gets a team to stand by him.

 

International experiences and used to working without massive funds.

[Guest blueboy122]

im sticking with Holloway, plays very attacking football and if he had had a defence at Blackpool, theyd still be doing well in the EPL.

 

To be honest, cant think who else is out there that Id have!

 

No chance not for me anyway, we would get picked apart every week!

[marcus jones 96]

Karl Robinson with the MK Dons, tactically astute, no nonsense leader with great footballing mentality who never seems to be on the back foot with the ability to inspire. Used to working with sod all.................

[duncanmckenzieismagic 4,446]

Martin O Neill

 

Ok he's maybe been disappointing with Sunderland, but the man has done very well for the most part, and took an unfashionable Leicester City team to cup successes and regular finals in recent years. He's just a name I admire and think he could do a job here. Not saying he could actually be manager any day, but it's something I'd maybe be eager to see.

 

Pardew is another that has done well in the past and made an impression but the general consensus here is it's maybe not a name to even consider, but I have thought about it before.

 

That would be an absolute disaster if he was appointed absolutely awful manager and didnt Oniel walk out on Villa because they wouldnt continue backing him with silly money?

[Hafnia 5,443]

Oneill and pardew? May as well throw Barnes and mike walker into the mix.

 

Would love laudrup here. He's gonna be a class manager.

[GoodisonRoad 333]

I'd want laudrop personally, you saw with Swansea that his knowledge of Spanish football could see us bag a few bargains as well as getting us playing a better brand of football to draw more crowds. I think haf mentioned the name in the other thread but I wouldn't mind Di matteo.

[Zoo 742]

I'd want laudrop personally, you saw with Swansea that his knowledge of Spanish football could see us bag a few bargains as well as getting us playing a better brand of football to draw more crowds. I think had mentioned the name in the other thread but I wouldn't mind Di matteo.

 

I hope Moyes doesn't go but if he did Laudrup would be my first candidate to replace him. I'd have DI Matteo too and I think that Everton are a club that he would manage, I'm sure that he would see it as a good opportunity and I think he would do well.

 

We need to pick a new manager carefully though because it could easily go tits up.

[Hafnia 5,443]

Martinez is a bright manager too

[MikeO 11,045]

Martinez is a bright manager too

 

He's a fairly warm favourite in our "next manager" betting as well (Laudrup not even listed)....

 

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/everton/next-permanent-manager

[Zoo 742]

Martinez is a bright manager too

 

I think he's a good manager but I don't think he would get us into Europe (Laudrup and Di Matteo IMO would).

[GoodisonRoad 333]

I don't understand how people rate Martinez at all. He's involved in a relegation battle every year, how does that make a good manager?

[pete0 1,375]

I don't understand how people rate Martinez at all. He's involved in a relegation battle every year, how does that make a good manager?

The same reason people rate Moyes. No money and sell one of their best players every year (or they walk on a Bosman).

[GoodisonRoad 333]

The same reason people rate Moyes. No money and sell one of their best players every year (or they walk on a Bosman).

 

But Moyes continually finishes in the top half/top 6...not near the relegation zone?

[Zoo 742]

He's good because he always finds a way out of the relegation zone but you could argue that they should never be there in the first place. As I said before I don't think he would be at the top of my list to replace Moyes, he's just not good enough to take on a European aiming club IMO.

[Sideliner 99]

Laudrup , Di Matteo or Martinez or Steve Clark all have the experience to be a great successor if needs be -

my question is how certain is it that Moyes will make a success of managing a really big high flying club where the board and the fans are very demanding - not as forgiving as us Evertonians ?

[Sideliner 99]

the same argument that goes for Moyes goes for Martinez -

he has had even less to work with - players and money -

like any coach he does not come with guarantees as a success or a failure -

with every move there are many new variables - and therefor an upside as well as a downside risk

[pete0 1,375]

But Moyes continually finishes in the top half/top 6...not near the relegation zone?

The difference in wages justifies that. Wigan is a much tougher job than Everton.

[pete0 1,375]

Conor McAleny ‏@CMcAleny

Just watched Swansea train at our place before. 2 things i learned.. Laudrup does NOT give the ball away and Leon Britton is a borrower

[GoodisonRoad 333]

 

The difference in wages justifies that. Wigan is a much tougher job than Everton.

 

So if we get Martinez in and put him on 75k a week or w/e Moyes is on.. Martinez would do the same job? Don't make me laugh!

 

Moyes had a lot less to work with when he first joined and gradually built us into what we are today. Martinez has been at Wigan for what? 5 years? And they are still scrapping at the bottom. I think what money he has got in from the sales of Moses and N'zogbia he hasn't reinvested very well at all.

[Bailey 3,644]

I don't understand how people rate Martinez at all. He's involved in a relegation battle every year, how does that make a good manager?

 

Sometimes when assessing how good a manager is you have to look beyond just the results. Tactically astute, done well in the transfer market and he gets the most out of his players. Any manager that can make Gary Caldwell almost look like a Premiership defender is worth his weight in gold if you ask me!

 

Quite simply, he strikes me as a manager that would excel with a talented group of players. He doesnt have the resources at Wigan, and while he wont get that here, he will at least be able to attract players because of the stature of the club, because no-one wants to go to Wigan unless they really have to!

 

I personally dont really rate Di Matteo that highly. Tactically he is a bit wishy washy and whilst he wouldnt relegate us I dont think we would be any better. He also seems to give the players too much power!

[Bailey 3,644]

So if we get Martinez in and put him on 75k a week or w/e Moyes is on.. Martinez would do the same job? Don't make me laugh!

 

Moyes had a lot less to work with when he first joined and gradually built us into what we are today. Martinez has been at Wigan for what? 5 years? And they are still scrapping at the bottom. I think what money he has got in from the sales of Moses and N'zogbia he hasn't reinvested very well at all.

 

I dont think he has seen much of that money and as I mentioned in my previous post it will be very hard to attract players to Wigan without offering ludicrous wages.

[Quinn31 808]

So if we get Martinez in and put him on 75k a week or w/e Moyes is on.. Martinez would do the same job? Don't make me laugh!

 

Moyes had a lot less to work with when he first joined and gradually built us into what we are today. Martinez has been at Wigan for what? 5 years? And they are still scrapping at the bottom. I think what money he has got in from the sales of Moses and N'zogbia he hasn't reinvested very well at all.

Wigan are a small club with little resources. Keeping them in the Premier League every year is an accomplishment in of itself. Martinez is a tactically intelligent manager who does a lot with less resources, and lesser players. Knows the transfer market well too. Besides, I DOUBT we'd put him on 75k a week.

[Dalziel Kane 257]

Why do people want Laudrup ? Because he took them to a League Cup Final ?

 

What about the Bradford City manager who did an even better job with the same feat ? Shall we throw his name into the ring too ?

 

Laudrup was a great player with Denmark and I saw him play, but surely this is just a one season wonder. Not a name I'd even consider for the Everton job. Once again we need a manager who has years of experience and is well recognized, such as Curbishley, O Neill, Redknapp etc. I stand by those names, as they have done well, and they're men I respect in the game.

[pete0 1,375]

So if we get Martinez in and put him on 75k a week or w/e Moyes is on.. Martinez would do the same job? Don't make me laugh!

 

Moyes had a lot less to work with when he first joined and gradually built us into what we are today. Martinez has been at Wigan for what? 5 years? And they are still scrapping at the bottom. I think what money he has got in from the sales of Moses and N'zogbia he hasn't reinvested very well at all.

I meant the players wages, we pay double what Wigan do. I don't rate Martinez very highly, but he's done well to keep Wigan up. I doubt Moyes would be able to do any better.

[Sideliner 99]

i do not think any other manager will give Phill Neville one more game for Everton -

the fact that Moyes can't see that, is a very serious blemish on his judgement -

we are not playing our best 11 picked on merit - and we only have Mr Moyes to thank for that -

we are strugling to beat almost any team - especially against weak sides - it is the manager's job to sort that out -

beating weak opposition is certainly not one of Mr Moyes's strong points

[GoodisonRoad 333]

Why do people want Laudrup ? Because he took them to a League Cup Final ?

 

What about the Bradford City manager who did an even better job with the same feat ? Shall we throw his name into the ring too ?

 

Laudrup was a great player with Denmark and I saw him play, but surely this is just a one season wonder. Not a name I'd even consider for the Everton job. Once again we need a manager who has years of experience and is well recognized, such as Curbishley, O Neill, Redknapp etc. I stand by those names, as they have done well, and they're men I respect in the game.

 

No. Because he has them playing a great brand of football and has shown with Chico and Michu that he has an eye for a bargain which lets face it, he is going to need if he were to manage us. All of the names you have suggested show how little you know about football other than who won the f.a cup in 1820. Curbishley? I'm not taking that consideration seriously. Redknapp? Never done anything when he's not had a £20m transfer budget swindled from an offshore account. O'neil similar to redknapp needs money to work with and he's a man who paid actual money for emile Heskey and John Carew...

[GoodisonRoad 333]

 

I meant the players wages, we pay double what Wigan do. I don't rate Martinez very highly, but he's done well to keep Wigan up. I doubt Moyes would be able to do any better.

 

Because Moyes has built us up to be able to pay players those wages? I don't see your point there? I'm pretty sure Steve Watson and Co were on similar to what Wigan players are on now? How could Moyes not do better when he already has? Do you remember where we were when he took over?

 

This is making me sound like I think the sun shines out of Moyes' arse here, I don't I think now would actually be the best time for both the club and him to move on, but to compare Moyes to Martinez is laughable.

[Matt 6,384]

Why do people want Laudrup ? Because he took them to a League Cup Final ?

 

What about the Bradford City manager who did an even better job with the same feat ? Shall we throw his name into the ring too ?

 

Laudrup was a great player with Denmark and I saw him play, but surely this is just a one season wonder. Not a name I'd even consider for the Everton job. Once again we need a manager who has years of experience and is well recognized, such as Curbishley, O Neill, Redknapp etc. I stand by those names, as they have done well, and they're men I respect in the game.

In order: Relegated how many times, spends loads of money that lead to nothing, dodgy thieving git.

 

Not one of those 3 should be even considered! I stick by Holloway and the more I think about it, Martinez makes sense.

[Romey 1878 10,765]

I'll be honest; the thought of Martinez as our manager fills me with dread and a sense of panic.

[GoodisonRoad 333]

In order: Relegated how many times, spends loads of money that lead to nothing, dodgy thieving git.

 

Not one of those 3 should be even considered! I stick by Holloway and the more I think about it, Martinez makes sense.

 

Was just going to agree that the more I think about holloway would be great for us. I feel like I'm living in an alternate universe when it comes to Martinez though, what has he done really? He beat a few big guns last year when fighting relegation for the 104783936th time and plays a decent brand of football. Yeah, sign him up...

[GoodisonRoad 333]

I'll be honest; the thought of Martinez as our manager fills me with dread and a sense of panic.

 

Thank you mark! You've restored some of my sanity!

[Matt 6,384]

I'll be honest; the thought of Martinez as our manager fills me with dread and a sense of panic.

was my initial reaction too but, as has already been pointed out, hes used to working under tight restraints and plays attacking football. If he had a decent defence / staff he could be very good. There was talk somewhere of him taking over from Benitez at Chelski

[Matt 6,384]

Was just going to agree that the more I think about holloway would be great for us. I feel like I'm living in an alternate universe when it comes to Martinez though, what has he done really? He beat a few big guns last year when fighting relegation for the 104783936th time and plays a decent brand of football. Yeah, sign him up...

Holloway is still my first choice. Just saying I can see the logic for Martinez.

 

Still hoping Moyes will sign though. It will be weird without him.

[Romey 1878 10,765]

was my initial reaction too but, as has already been pointed out, hes used to working under tight restraints and plays attacking football. If he had a decent defence / staff he could be very good. There was talk somewhere of him taking over from Benitez at Chelski

 

 

Put it this way, I was rubbing my hands with glee when it looked like he was going to take over the shite!

[Steve_E 899]

Why do people want Laudrup ? Because he took them to a League Cup Final ?

 

What about the Bradford City manager who did an even better job with the same feat ? Shall we throw his name into the ring too ?

 

Laudrup was a great player with Denmark and I saw him play, but surely this is just a one season wonder. Not a name I'd even consider for the Everton job. Once again we need a manager who has years of experience and is well recognized, such as Curbishley, O Neill, Redknapp etc. I stand by those names, as they have done well, and they're men I respect in the game.

 

This isn't Laudrup's first season as a manager, you know. He won 2 Danish Cups and 1 league title in 4 seasons at Bröndby and apparently he did that by letting go of a lot of older players at the club and by replacing them with youngsters from their academy. In one season at Getafe he took them to the Copa del Rey final (loss to Valencia) and the quarter final of the UEFA Cup (loss to Bayern Munich). He then got fired at Spartak Moscow after 14 games and quit Mallorca (because of frustration with the chairman, who fired his Danish assistant among others) after keeping them up. Now he's got Swansea into a Cup final as well. He got plaudits for his attacking style at his previous clubs and it looks like he can work with a limited budget (Michu, De Guzman on loan...) He might be able to attract players based on his name alone too.

 

I would like Roberto Martinez as well. He's promoted Swansea to the championship and really built the foundations of their current style. He's still young and presents himself well, I think he's intelligent in general considering his degree in physiotherapy and postgraduate diploma in business management. And tactically he's better than any other manager in this league and he's even managed to implement his style at Wigan, who have mediocre players really and I saw them deservedly beat Arsenal at their own game last year. I think he could do wonders with our squad.

 

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is supposedly doing very well for himself at Molde. I'd rather gamble on someone like him than get any of Curbishley, O'Neill or Redknapp. I think Curbishley is pretty much done on the highest level, O'Neill plays boring football and Redknapp has said that "tactics don't win matches", which is true in his case, the bucket loads of money he gets from his chairmen do.

[Matt 6,384]

This isn't Laudrup's first season as a manager, you know. He won 2 Danish Cups and 1 league title in 4 seasons at Bröndby and apparently he did that by letting go of a lot of older players at the club and by replacing them with youngsters from their academy. In one season at Getafe he took them to the Copa del Rey final (loss to Valencia) and the quarter final of the UEFA Cup (loss to Bayern Munich). He then got fired at Spartak Moscow after 14 games and quit Mallorca (because of frustration with the chairman, who fired his Danish assistant among others) after keeping them up. Now he's got Swansea into a Cup final as well. He got plaudits for his attacking style at his previous clubs and it looks like he can work with a limited budget (Michu, De Guzman on loan...) He might be able to attract players based on his name alone too.

 

I would like Roberto Martinez as well. He's promoted Swansea to the championship and really built the foundations of their current style. He's still young and presents himself well, I think he's intelligent in general considering his degree in physiotherapy and postgraduate diploma in business management. And tactically he's better than any other manager in this league and he's even managed to implement his style at Wigan, who have mediocre players really and I saw them deservedly beat Arsenal at their own game last year. I think he could do wonders with our squad.

 

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is supposedly doing very well for himself at Molde. I'd rather gamble on someone like him than get any of Curbishley, O'Neill or Redknapp. I think Curbishley is pretty much done on the highest level, O'Neill plays boring football and Redknapp has said that "tactics don't win matches", which is true in his case, the bucket loads of money he gets from his chairmen do.

very well put mate

[BedfordBlue 35]

I just hope and prey that Moyes stays I really fear for the future if the managers mentioned are to replace him.

 

I cant believe anyone mentioned Curbishley.

 

O'neill would have a better transfer budget where he is.

 

I can't stand Redknapp as a person and he needs money.

 

If he did go then I think i would like to see either Laudrup or Clarke

[Dalziel Kane 257]

All it is, is some prefer names and think they will either fail or do a better job than some others. I don't mind Redknapp too much, and he hasn't always needed money to be successful or gain recognition. I still think O Neill is a good name to consider, another one who has proved successful without need for big money, just bringing together a no thrills side that worked hard and got results. I just don't like the idea of Laudrup at GP. Yes he may have done well in South Wales, but could he really duplicate that success elsewhere. Still insist it's merely a one off. How will they do next season ?

 

All this talk is all very well, but maybe it's better to get the confirmation that Moyes intends to leave before we start doing shortlists for managerial figures. The Scot may well decide to stay on for a couple more seasons for all we know, but that's how I feel about it with regards to possible replacements when the time arises.

[GoodisonRoad 333]

All it is, is some prefer names and think they will either fail or do a better job than some others. I don't mind Redknapp too much, and he hasn't always needed money to be successful or gain recognition. I still think O Neill is a good name to consider, another one who has proved successful without need for big money, just bringing together a no thrills side that worked hard and got results. I just don't like the idea of Laudrup at GP. Yes he may have done well in South Wales, but could he really duplicate that success elsewhere. Still insist it's merely a one off. How will they do next season ?

 

All this talk is all very well, but maybe it's better to get the confirmation that Moyes intends to leave before we start doing shortlists for managerial figures. The Scot may well decide to stay on for a couple more seasons for all we know, but that's how I feel about it with regards to possible replacements when the time arises.

 

 

Did you even read the responses above DK? "Yes he may have done well in south wales, but could he really duplicate that success elsewhere" Steve_E gave several examples of his previous successes, not just swansea.

 

I understand that its your opinion that you think those names will do well for the club, but do you fancy backing up and saying why? all you've said is that you like them. And O'neil doesnt need big money? Do you actually follow what goes on in football other than results? I'd say O'neil was one of the biggest spenders outside the top 4 only behind redknapp.

[pete0 1,375]

Because Moyes has built us up to be able to pay players those wages? I don't see your point there? I'm pretty sure Steve Watson and Co were on similar to what Wigan players are on now? How could Moyes not do better when he already has? Do you remember where we were when he took over?

 

This is making me sound like I think the sun shines out of Moyes' arse here, I don't I think now would actually be the best time for both the club and him to move on, but to compare Moyes to Martinez is laughable.

Are you serious? Are you saying Wigan have a fair playing ground with Everton and the only difference is Moyes? Wigan lost their 3 best players after their first season in the prem and have continually sold (or let go) one of their best players every year. Moyes cries over 3 in his entire tenure.

I don't know how this second part is a point.

Already covered this, the team wasn't that bad, Walter Smith was.

[GoodisonRoad 333]

Are you serious? Are you saying Wigan have a fair playing ground with Everton and the only difference is Moyes? Wigan lost their 3 best players after their first season in the prem and have continually sold (or let go) one of their best players every year. Moyes cries over 3 in his entire tenure.

I don't know how this second part is a point.

Already covered this, the team wasn't that bad, Walter Smith was.

 

No. I'm saying we were once in a similar position to Wigan before Moyes; fighting relagation. You dont know how it is a point? your the one who said you were referring to players wages making the difference? I give up, this is just going to get like our discussions on pienaar.

[pete0 1,375]

No. I'm saying we were once in a similar position to Wigan before Moyes; fighting relagation. You dont know how it is a point? your the one who said you were referring to players wages making the difference? I give up, this is just going to get like our discussions on pienaar.

We had an awful manager who had lost the plot, the team of players was good enough to be in the top half under any manager worth their salt. Moyes' job is nowhere near as hard.

On a bad day we get twice the support that Wigan get on a good day. Huge difference in what each club can afford to pay wages wise to attract/keep players.

[marcus jones 96]

If some peeps on here have a hard on for anything Swansea then call for Kenny Jackett to become our next manager or for Huw Jenkins to be chairman, because without them two we would not be discussing Laudrup or Martinez. I don't want either and I have not made my mind up who I want to replace Moyes when he goes at the end of the season or when ever he decides to call it a day. I'm just shit scared of fighting another relegation battle because to be honest we have all had a tits full of that in the past haven't we?

[Guest]

I can't see past Laudrup to be honest. His record as a manager has been well documented but i think the players would look up to him due to the fact he was a world class player and played for Real and Barca to go with his managerial skills. He is young and hungry and has proven he doesnt play tip tap football. Swansea are tough to break down defensively. Martinez is a disaster waiting to happen if you ask me

[marcus jones 96]

Would Laudrup who at the mo is in a cup final with a well run club that has no debts, new stadium, good players, fantastic fan base etc..... come to a club who has to sell one of their better players every season just to stay afloat? Really?

[MikeO 11,045]

Would Laudrup who at the mo is in a cup final with a well run club that has no debts, new stadium, good players, fantastic fan base etc..... come to a club who has to sell one of their better players every season just to stay afloat? Really?

 

Don't want to sound "Welshist" but however you dress it up Everton is a step up from Swansea....our income will be up by thirty odd million from next season so the "selling to stay afloat" point won't apply.

[Quinn31 808]

Don't want to sound "Welshist" but however you dress it up Everton is a step up from Swansea....our income will be up by thirty odd million from next season so the "selling to stay afloat" point won't apply.

Hopefully wages won't match the rise in revenue at least for awhile. Would be a good time to both add to the squad & pay off some debt.

[marcus jones 96]

Don't want to sound "Welshist" but however you dress it up Everton is a step up from Swansea....our income will be up by thirty odd million from next season so the "selling to stay afloat" point won't apply.

I did not say it was a step up Mike, as for the extra revenue there will be serious misgivings if the debt is not repaid with this extra cash.

[Matt 6,384]

We had an awful manager who had lost the plot, the team of players was good enough to be in the top half under any manager worth their salt. Moyes' job is nowhere near as hard.

On a bad day we get twice the support that Wigan get on a good day. Huge difference in what each club can afford to pay wages wise to attract/keep players.

whats that got to do with the manager?

 

Starting to think that Moyes will sod off for his "glory" years before failing miserably, and coming back to comfort.

[Romey 1878 10,765]

whats that got to do with the manager?

 

Starting to think that Moyes will sod off for his "glory" years before failing miserably, and coming back to comfort.

 

Come back?! Once he's gone he can bloody well stay gone instead of falling back on us.

[Matt 6,384]

Come back?! Once he's gone he can bloody well stay gone instead of falling back on us.

*cough* Kendall *cough*

[Romey 1878 10,765]

*cough* Kendall *cough*

 

Tbf, Kendall came back to help us and not with his tail between his legs. But, do me a favour, don't remind me about that again, I don't want nightmares!

[pete0 1,375]

whats that got to do with the manager?

Me and Goodison road discussing the merits of Moyes to Martinez, as I said Moyes hasn't done much more than Martinez.

 

 

GR: I don't understand how people rate Martinez at all. He's involved in a relegation battle every year, how does that make a good manager?

pete0: The same reason people rate Moyes. No money and sell one of their best players every year (or they walk on a Bosman).

GR:But Moyes continually finishes in the top half/top 6...not near the relegation zone?

P0: The difference in wages justifies that. Wigan is a much tougher job than Everton.

GR:So if we get Martinez in and put him on 75k a week or w/e Moyes is on.. Martinez would do the same job? Don't make me laugh!

Moyes had a lot less to work with when he first joined and gradually built us into what we are today. Martinez has been at Wigan for what? 5 years? And they are still scrapping at the bottom. I think what money he has got in from the sales of Moses and N'zogbia he hasn't reinvested very well at all.

P0: I meant the players wages, we pay double what Wigan do. I don't rate Martinez very highly, but he's done well to keep Wigan up. I doubt Moyes would be able to do any better.

GR: Because Moyes has built us up to be able to pay players those wages? I don't see your point there? I'm pretty sure Steve Watson and Co were on similar to what Wigan players are on now? How could Moyes not do better when he already has? Do you remember where we were when he took over?

This is making me sound like I think the sun shines out of Moyes' arse here, I don't I think now would actually be the best time for both the club and him to move on, but to compare Moyes to Martinez is laughable.

P0: Are you serious? Are you saying Wigan have a fair playing ground with Everton and the only difference is Moyes? Wigan lost their 3 best players after their first season in the prem and have continually sold (or let go) one of their best players every year. Moyes cries over 3 in his entire tenure.

I don't know how this second part is a point.

Already covered this, the team wasn't that bad, Walter Smith was.

GR: No. I'm saying we were once in a similar position to Wigan before Moyes; fighting relagation. You dont know how it is a point? your the one who said you were referring to players wages making the difference? I give up, this is just going to get like our discussions on pienaar.

P0: We had an awful manager who had lost the plot, the team of players was good enough to be in the top half under any manager worth their salt. Moyes' job is nowhere near as hard.

On a bad day we get twice the support that Wigan get on a good day. Huge difference in what each club can afford to pay wages wise to attract/keep players.

 

[Matt 6,384]

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Me and Goodison road discussing the merits of Moyes to Martinez, as I said Moyes hasn't done much more than Martinez.

youre right!

 

 

 

(can someone else take this one? Too drunk to point out the wrong points of this statement!)

[MikeO 11,045]

I did not say it was a step up Mike, as for the extra revenue there will be serious misgivings if the debt is not repaid with this extra cash.

 

I know....and I agree with you on the debt reduction.

 

Just think that an ambitious manager (and I'm not saying he's right or wrong for the job) would surely swap safety & stability at Swansea for a chance at a club the size of Everton.

[marcus jones 96]

Does anyone know if the extra sky money will wipe out our debt? Sorry if I'm going off the original post a bit!

[Romey 1878 10,765]

Does anyone know if the extra sky money will wipe out our debt? Sorry if I'm going off the original post a bit!

 

I think it'd wipe most of it out but I wouldn't have thought we'd use all of it for that purpose.

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Juan Ignacio Martinez

Thomas Tuchel - my favoured choice

[Dalziel Kane 257]

It's 4-00 in the morning and we've just got home but once again Laudrup isn't a feasible choice. I don't care if he's won a few games at Swansea or done well for a short period, is that really going to make a difference to us ? I don't mind Moyes as an individual, he's done well, but where's the end product ? 11 Years now and nothing won, although this season does represent an opportunity to finally once again win something, but it's too early to tell. Even if we had the investment to do something, Moyes' dour and lacklustre tactics and philosophies dictate we won't get very far. It's one main reason why Manchester United will never accept him. He's had over a decade and nothing won, but I want to see someone else come in and have a go. Yes we may get european soccer every now and again but all it amounts to is stabillity and safety first. We have a very good opportunity this year with a feasible chance of FA cup semi-finals but we've seen before how Moyes loses it at the most critical stages or when there's a tangible chance to win something.

 

To the above, I simply can't envisage Hitzfeld, Advocaat etc ever being Everton manager, so I don't know quite where that leaves us. I'm not even aware of a Thomas Tuchel ?, but something has to give sooner or later. If Moyes does depart at end of season, I'll be a little sad to see him go after all these years, and it'll be strange to see a new face in charge, but I'm adamant he's done as much as he can and maybe it's time for someone else to have a go and see where it takes us. We still once again have opportunities this season so will wait 'til then but that's how I feel about it.

[Hafnia 5,443]

Regarding TV money and debt we will still be like for like. Whereas we will be paying off debt, other clubs may user it to improve capacity, facilities, players and generate more income.

 

One way or another we will have to spend it to consolidate our league position. If we were the only club to get this money fair enough - but we aren't. The inflationary impact of this cash injection is going to be going in the pockets of agents and players, the old £20k a week squad player is going to be a £40k a week squad player - pay it or lose them.