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56 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

What points tally do you think we'd have had if Marco Silva had remained Everton manager?

Dunno, maybe the same as last year since we were in the same situation then

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1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said:

What points tally do you think we'd have had if Marco Silva had remained Everton manager?

Better question, how many would we have had with a different manager from the start. Silva pissed up another good year for top 4.

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45 minutes ago, pete0 said:

Better question, how many would we have had with a different manager from the start. Silva pissed up another good year for top 4.

Yes he did, but Carlo wasn’t available until a few weeks ago, who would you have had at the start of the season who was available?

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21 minutes ago, Wiggytop said:

Yes he did, but Carlo wasn’t available until a few weeks ago, who would you have had at the start of the season who was available?

Ferguson or Unsworth just whilst we waited for the right manager to come along. 

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Deloitte Money League Results are out for 2019-2020 and Everton are still in the top 20

 

Top 20

1. Barcelona €840.8m
2. Real Madrid €757.3m
3. Manchester United €711.5m
4. Bayern Munich €660.1m
5. Paris Saint-Germain €635.9m
6. Manchester City €610.6m
7. Liverpool €604.7m
8. Tottenham €521.1m
9. Chelsea €513.1m
10. Juventus €459.7m
11. Arsenal €445.6m
12. Borussia Dortmund €377.1m
13. Atletico Madrid €367.6m
14. Inter Milan €364.6m
15. Schalke €324.8m
16. Roma €231m
17. Lyon €220.8m
18. West Ham €216.4m
19. Everton €213m
20. Napoli €207.4m

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1 hour ago, Finn balor said:

Look at PSG? They were nowhere a few years ago. Money talks boys n girls. I want some of that pie!! 

West Ham in there courtesy of their stadium. There's no way they are as valuable as us without that. Let's see where we are in 5 years after the stadium is built. Much closer to or even in top 10

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1 minute ago, TallPaul1878 said:

West Ham in there courtesy of their stadium. There's no way they are as valuable as us without that. Let's see where we are in 5 years after the stadium is built. Much closer to or even in top 10

Think we'll likely drop out/down next year, dependent on final position and any transfer funds.

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3 minutes ago, nogs said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51114007

Unlikely to see us throwing money around this window then, and purse strings might even be tighter come the summer than they have been the past few years. Our problem is we don't have that many saleable assets. 

We do need to sell some players. Whatever we can recoup from player sales will help, even if it is just to cut some losses. We paid the best part of £30m for Tosun, if we can sell him for £20m then it's a £10m loss but that's better than a £30m outlay on a player who doesn't play.

Same with many other players. If we can get half our money back it would help to cut those losses

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7 minutes ago, TallPaul1878 said:

We do need to sell some players. Whatever we can recoup from player sales will help, even if it is just to cut some losses. We paid the best part of £30m for Tosun, if we can sell him for £20m then it's a £10m loss but that's better than a £30m outlay on a player who doesn't play.

Same with many other players. If we can get half our money back it would help to cut those losses

I’m not a finance guy by any means, but whenever I’ve seen a commitment that’s not paying back in the business environment, FICO will always look forward to justify a loss by saying things like “sure it’s not worked out, and we’ll take a hit the the past, but if the contract was seen through we would’ve even lost more so actually we’re saving/breaking even on the near future”

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West Ham, courtesy of their new stadium make double our match day revenue with €30m compared to our €16m.

We outperform them commercially with €44m compared to their €41m

We are the most dependant on broadcasting revenue with 71% generated from it. It is vital that we get a new stadium to start generating not only match day revenue but also commercial revenue. The stadium can be used for concerts and boxing events. Being located on the River Mersey puts it in one of the most iconic locations in the country.

If we get this right I think we can go rocketing up the table.

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13 minutes ago, Matt said:

I’m not a finance guy by any means, but whenever I’ve seen a commitment that’s not paying back in the business environment, FICO will always look forward to justify a loss by saying things like “sure it’s not worked out, and we’ll take a hit the the past, but if the contract was seen through we would’ve even lost more so actually we’re saving/breaking even on the near future”

Reading elsewhere I've seen suggestions that we can expect much better reports due to player trading next year as some outgoings have not been counted this year.

Once planning permission is passed then around £45m in losses currently can be written off for the acquisition and development of Bramley Moore Docks. That's a significant chunk.

That aside, let's not forget that Moshiri has now pumped in approx £350m to the club and we have around £9m in outstanding debt. We are effectively in debt to Moshiri for all that so let's hope he doesn't get cold feet hey 

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10 hours ago, TallPaul1878 said:

We do need to sell some players. Whatever we can recoup from player sales will help, even if it is just to cut some losses. We paid the best part of £30m for Tosun, if we can sell him for £20m then it's a £10m loss but that's better than a £30m outlay on a player who doesn't play.

Same with many other players. If we can get half our money back it would help to cut those losses

Yes we do. But making a loss on players - and so many players at that - will mean our transfer budget takes a hit. Brands says so himself, don't expect the club to be going after the £60m players. 

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11 hours ago, TallPaul1878 said:

Reading elsewhere I've seen suggestions that we can expect much better reports due to player trading next year as some outgoings have not been counted this year.

Once planning permission is passed then around £45m in losses currently can be written off for the acquisition and development of Bramley Moore Docks. That's a significant chunk.

That aside, let's not forget that Moshiri has now pumped in approx £350m to the club and we have around £9m in outstanding debt. We are effectively in debt to Moshiri for all that so let's hope he doesn't get cold feet hey 

If he does get cold feet, he'll not take a loss and any payments / debt will be included in any sales price. 

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14 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

As to be expected. Positive is the net debt is down to 9m now.  In the bill days it was mortgaged to the hilt.  Glad it’s super low now.  Granted it’s moshiri loans but he’s the owner so he’s invested.

It’s a loan not an investment if it was an investment it would belong to the club. 

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3 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

i said he's invested in the club.  he wants to see it succeed just like roman at chelsea with all he's loaned them.  

So far the only comparison to Chelsea is he’s loaned the club £350 million to improve the squad then all comparisons end. 
Which is a massive bummer.  

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2 hours ago, MikeO said:

Fortunate enough to bump into the great man a bit earlier.....and I was quite pleased to meet Mick again as well!😂 (God I look old:unsure:)

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You don’t look a day over 60 mate 😎

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I was just about to post a link to Speedos donation site! , we always drop some money in his bucket at Goodison, to go to a game in her shreddies is one thing, to walk 1000 miles in December through Feb is something else. The guy is a shining example of how to turn your life around and then help others. He always has time for everyone at the ground, if he is talking to someone and you drop some money in his bucket, he always makes sure he catches up with you to say thank you.

So for anyone who isn’t aware of him here’s the link to donate to his fantastic effort.TIA.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/speedomick-1000-ml-charity?d=6aq9C13IdZLqIdmFobn5t86bPDvoh6BrJQQpzoC2VHo%3D

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4 hours ago, MikeO said:

Sixty is the new forty Mark; not that I'm sixty yet.....not until April anyway.:(

Too bloody right it is, I turned 60 last Friday, and popped into Merseytravel today to get my free bus pass, I’ll use the savings to buy food for the food bank that’s at the ground each home game.

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Just now, Wiggytop said:

Too bloody right it is, I turned 60 last Friday, and popped into Merseytravel today to get my free bus pass, I’ll use the savings to buy food for the food bank that’s at the ground each home game.

Good on you Wiggy mate, 1960 was a good year; pretty certain Palfy was born then as well but there's always a black sheep I guess.:D

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8 minutes ago, MikeO said:

Good on you Wiggy mate, 1960 was a good year; pretty certain Palfy was born then as well but there's always a black sheep I guess.:D

😂 cheers mate but you’re lucky I was August 59, I can’t even say I was a 60s child you can’t begin to feel how depressing it is to say you born in 50s. 

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4 minutes ago, Palfy said:

😂 cheers mate but you’re lucky I was August 59, I can’t even say I was a 60s child you can’t begin to feel how depressing it is to say you born in 50s. 

My bro was August '58, I never let him forget it though the bastard is much fitter than me.:angry:

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1 hour ago, Palfy said:

😂 cheers mate but you’re lucky I was August 59, I can’t even say I was a 60s child you can’t begin to feel how depressing it is to say you born in 50s. 

Your lucky Palf  how would you feel if you were born in the 30s. 😟

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On 13/02/2020 at 16:07, Sibdane said:

Ran across this... I love the people running onto the pitch!

 

It was the game that made me an Evertonian, and to to think Bill was there as a 26-27 year old is fantastic. 
Good on ya Bill mate still going strong. 

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On 12/02/2020 at 20:55, Wiggytop said:

I was just about to post a link to Speedos donation site! , we always drop some money in his bucket at Goodison, to go to a game in her shreddies is one thing, to walk 1000 miles in December through Feb is something else. The guy is a shining example of how to turn your life around and then help others. He always has time for everyone at the ground, if he is talking to someone and you drop some money in his bucket, he always makes sure he catches up with you to say thank you.

So for anyone who isn’t aware of him here’s the link to donate to his fantastic effort.TIA.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/speedomick-1000-ml-charity?d=6aq9C13IdZLqIdmFobn5t86bPDvoh6BrJQQpzoC2VHo%3D

Done. Always support his challenges. He's an inspiration.

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I was in a meeting a few weeks ago.... my office is in Manchester city centre near the printworks... the lad said "look at him...."  I looked out the window and there was a bloke in a high viz and blue trunks...... I smiled. Here I was in an office in Manchester and there goes a bluenose in a pair speedos walking for others.....  awesome.  I've not donated yet but will do. 

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32 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

I hope City destroy UEFA over this tbh. They've bigged on a big boy in City, they've got bottomless pockets and they'll fight them all the way on this.

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