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The BBC cannot give Everton a compliment without it being back-handed, can they? Two Everton players make their team of the week, but Gueye isn't as good as Kante and they can't understand why Manchester United or City haven't lured Coleman away from Goodison Park. We're going to have to win the league three years in succession before they regard Everton as anything other than an also-ran.

 

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39098821

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In 60 odd years of watching and following Everton, Alex Young is the player who gave me most pleasure. Sure I've said this before but he was adored by all the fans in his playing days, so much so that Harry Catterick was attacked for dropping him from the team to give Joe Doyle his Debut.

 

All players of Efc are well remembered, but Alex will live on in the history books as one of the greats. R.I.P.

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The BBC cannot give Everton a compliment without it being back-handed, can they? Two Everton players make their team of the week, but Gueye isn't as good as Kante and they can't understand why Manchester United or City haven't lured Coleman away from Goodison Park. We're going to have to win the league three years in succession before they regard Everton as anything other than an also-ran.

 

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39098821

 

Yeah, the Coleman bit is really annoying.

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Mirallas usually seems to be involved in the camaraderie too. Strange that those two are seen as disruptions to team spirit to a lot of our fans.

I think that's a big thing I have noticed this year.

The guys labelled as trouble makers seem to be the ones playing pranks and lifts by team spirits.

 

Look at the way players celebrate with Rom when he scores.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39130708

 

Patronising. I like Danny Murphy but I don't like a lot of this.

 

What did you think about his views on Rooney, he's obviously if he plays going to take the place of someone else, but if he improves the team in what ever position he plays surly that's justification to play him, regardless of who's place he takes.
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What did you think about his views on Rooney, he's obviously if he plays going to take the place of someone else, but if he improves the team in what ever position he plays surly that's justification to play him, regardless of who's place he takes.

 

I don't see a place for him in the starting XI if we have a fully fit squad personally, he'd be a decent option on the bench though.

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Depends where you play him. Leave him in the box and he'll get 20 goals, but we'd be playing a man down. Play him deep and you lose his goal threat. Don't think he has the legs to play as a 10. Personally I'd have Rom do the running and leave Rooney in the box. However he has a tendency to drift back to get on to the ball.

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Rooney is a luxury player, unbelievably talented his passing, ball control and finishing are world class.

 

However his mobility is not as good and nowhere near what Koeman would demand of the rest of the team, and his stamina levels are not going to be anywhere near the required level.

 

But what really annoys me is that his positional sense going forward is great, he can find space and knows where to be to hurt the opponent. But when he hasn't got the ball he gets dragged back almost to where DM's play which means he is not where we need him to be.

 

I think the reality is if he comes he will be a bit part player similar to Barry in that he will start some games and come on to influence others.

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He can play left of the front three, they all move all over the place anyway. For me that spot is up for grabs, Rom will always play and Ross is doing a great job on the right at the moment.

I'd agree with you Steve, he would also be a more natural support to Rom should we play 352 albeit that means someone else would lose out.

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Robles

Coleman Holgate Williams Mori Baines

Schneiderlin

McCarthy Barkley Mirallas

Lukaku

 

I'm not on the pish-take, and it's only cos I was in another thread, but seasons MOTM winner Gueye omitted? Heavy duty call there.

Fascinated to hear the Mira man reasoning instead of Bolasie.

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I'm not on the pish-take, and it's only cos I was in another thread, but seasons MOTM winner Gueye omitted? Heavy duty call there.

Fascinated to hear the Mira man reasoning instead of Bolasie.

Gueye stood out with his energy (and was rightly lauded for his impact), but since everyone has caught up to his fitness levels he's noticeably a class below. He set the bar high, and is now not living up to them. His closing down hid how bad his positioning is. Has a brain fart most games as well. That said, he's still a useful player, just not as good as I first thought.

 

Mirallas has the stats and is more consistent than we give him credit for. He's a very dangerous player probs our most clinical. I think people still have a problem with him because of the penalty incident.

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Gueye stood out with his energy (and was rightly lauded for his impact), but since everyone has caught up to his fitness levels he's noticeably a class below. He set the bar high, and is now not living up to them. His closing down hid how bad his positioning is. Has a brain fart most games as well. That said, he's still a useful player, just not as good as I first thought.

 

Mirallas has the stats and is more consistent than we give him credit for. He's a very dangerous player probs our most clinical. I think people still have a problem with him because of the penalty incident.

 

Half as clinical as you suggest the past two years would have buried that penalty incident.

Gueye was a one man midfield at Villa, and something similar was initially expected here, we have some extra talent though now and he has to learn to specialise instead of being a one man band covering all he can in midfield. Time breeds trust, and so we go back to the pendulum and count it down.

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